AC Shadows Title Update 1.0.2 - Includes PSSR, Removes 30fps cap in hideout
- Thread starter Topher
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Please upload videos, in 4K
My friend's 3600 + 2060 included I'm sure!
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thatJohann
Member
With PSSR on balanced mode, looks clean.
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Solarstrike
Gold Member
Wtf man too many games with huge patches. 16gigs
deez nuts
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saintjules
Member
What graphics mode are you using? I'll have to try this tonight.
thatJohann
Member
Balanced mode, looks very sharp and clean. no artifacts that i can tell.
viveks86
Member
Could you post a few comparison shots in each mode?With PSSR on balanced mode, looks clean.
saintjules
Member
Cool. I'm curious on performance mode now.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Can you take the day off work to compare every mode for every version of the game pre and post patch and upload all the videos in 4k and clearly explain it all in the first minute of the videos and then stop talking so we can hear the game audio and then not monetize any of it so I don't see any ads?
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Kacho
Member
Trogdor1123
Member
Was there a significant change to the Mac version? The performance was terrible before.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Why are people laughing at my simple ask?
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I don't think it's anything to laugh about at all. I'm calling out of work right now just to help you out with your request.
TacoSavage
Member
i cant tell the difference on balanced mode on pro with pssr and i put. in 50+ hrs already, how about you guys?
thatJohann
Member
yeah it's not a major difference, i think it's more for pixel peeping from Digital Foundry and not something clearly as visible. I'm assuming it will be turned ON by default on new games so that's their preference I assume
Killjoy-NL
Member
Won't pssr help with performance, especially for Balanced mode with the added rt specular whatever it is?
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Looks good image seems stable and improved over prior PSSR implementations.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It depends what they did. If you cannot tell the difference and they lowered the base resolution but added PSSR+Reflections, then PSSR's job is done. You keep the same IQ and performance, but you get RT reflections.
It will if they lowered the internal resolution, yes.
But isn't the addition of RT reflections in balanced mode independent of PSSR? That is, are RT reflections also present when using TAAU?
PSSR is a toggle. I want to understand why TAAU is still offered as an option if PSSR is supposed to be objectively better. Perhaps the frame rate is more stable with TAAU?
Any impressions of what the unlocked frame rate is like in Hideout? I suppose it's an option that can be turned on or off?
yamaci17
Member
so people can see what PSSR is doing
omegasc
Member
...and to avoid the "buh mah options!" posts.
TheRedRiders
Member
Anyone actually jumped into the game on the Pro yet? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the PSSR implementation specifically in the performance mode.
Topher
Identifies as young
Just a few minutes, but I'm seeing noticeable improvement to performance with this patch. Stuttery frame rate is gone, thankfully. I'll play more tonight.
saintjules
Member
Gonna try tonight. I have been playing on Balanced Mode for the most part on the Pro.
Have you checked 4000% zoom in though?
DJ12
Member
It's supposed to add the missing rt reflections from quality mode so I'm not sure if this is a troll or genuine impression of the update.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yes.
That's a dev decision. ND also leaves a bunch of old modes in Uncharted and TLOU on the Pro. Maybe because they want to let people compare? I dunno.
checked balanced, honestly difficult to tell the difference, far away stuff (like distant mountains) still shimmers pssr on or off.
stuff around you seem stable and clean though. now backport this to outlaws.
might be a bigger improvement on perf mode, haven't checked that
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
People often complain when the old options are removed. It's easier to just leave them in there, though many people also complain about having too many options, so you'll never really please everybody.
Topher
Identifies as young
Couple of comparison shots. Just comparing the modes as I play them (TAA Quality on PC vs PSSR Performance on Pro). Keep in mind, I'm getting 80+fps on PC with TAA Quality
I'm not very good at this kind of thing, but....best I could do.
I'll try to get more shots with other modes tonight.
I'm not very good at this kind of thing, but....best I could do.
I'll try to get more shots with other modes tonight.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Tried to get 60 fps on PC last night. Been playing at 30 fps at 4k DLSS Quality, literally every setting maxed out and only have to switch to Balanced when it starts raining really heavily during some big battles. Mostly 80-90% GPU utilization at 4k dlss quality.
Changed to DLSS performance, got up to 44 fps. Not bad. Started changing settings down from ultra to very high. Nothing. Down to high, and got as high as 50 fps and constant drops to mid 40s when galloping or going through cities.
No matter what I do, i cant shake that mid 40s barrier. I dont want to play at medium. So im just going back to 30 fps until 5080s become affordable again.
Changed to DLSS performance, got up to 44 fps. Not bad. Started changing settings down from ultra to very high. Nothing. Down to high, and got as high as 50 fps and constant drops to mid 40s when galloping or going through cities.
No matter what I do, i cant shake that mid 40s barrier. I dont want to play at medium. So im just going back to 30 fps until 5080s become affordable again.
But in each mode, there was some difference (be it performance or IQ) that made each one genuine....
I suppose a DF analysis would shed more light.
Topher
Identifies as young
You have a 3080 currently, right?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yep. Could also be my CPU but gpu utilization always maxes out in cities so maybe its just my GPU.
On PC, you can see much more sharpness and detail in assets and elements of the scene... But the difference may have a lot to do with the quality of those assets/LOD and draw distance (the graphics in performance mode in PRO suffered a lot of cuts and the base resolution was low) than with the type of AA or rescaling.
Maybe other modes comparasion can help more.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Leagues? im playing on PC right now and its not leagues. Especially when the PS5 pro literally has both RTGI and RT reflections, hair physics, same destruction, same weather, same shadows. Same everything. This aint no Indiana Jones or Cyberpunk situation.
PSSR should bring it in line with DLSS or close to it.
PC version is leagues ahead of the series s version which doesnt even have RTGI. But then again so are base consoles.
And Nvidia cards perform worse in this game like ever AC game before it. Even with all these expensive RT features which points to games like Cyberpunk just being optimized for Nvidia cards instead of AMD GPUs and Consoles being trash at RT.
Teb-Tengri
Neo Member
All good updates overall — except for the combat tweaks. Breaking armor doesn't feel as impactful anymore, and finishers seem less frequent. The final kill is just a slow-mo hit now, which takes away some of the excitement. Also, performance mode doesn't feel as smooth as it should — there's a noticeable drop in fluidity.
TrebleShot
Member
Cutscenes and Conversations are still 30fps
Here yall go, here's your game. It's getting an upgrade, lol.
This you?
Unfortunately that's an intentional choice unlike the hideout which was reported as a bug. I don't see that one changing.
Topher
Identifies as young
The clarity difference is pretty obvious, but yeah......very different modes here. The most noticeable difference, however, was the smoother game play. It was really bad prior to this patch on Pro. I think this probably reaches the goal of base PS5 Quality mode in Performance mode on Pro. The quality difference is enough for me to favor PC since I still have a couple of more weeks with Ubisoft+.
So hard to upload a video in 2025...thanks, I guess.With PSSR on balanced mode, looks clean.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Will check it out later, YouTube videos aren't a good indicator as the compression in those videos actually looks like PSSR artifacts and people disregard them.
So it's hard to judge how well the implementation is until you actually see it on screen in real-time.
So it's hard to judge how well the implementation is until you actually see it on screen in real-time.