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[TheLostBigBoss]

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/628677908563931136

What ever happened to the, "We never wanted his phone" stuff?

 

[Quotient]

Confirmed. QB room is batcave.

Well, first of all, just to explain to the Commissioner, describe the quarterback room. Is it kind of some secret sanctuary like the Bat Cave that only the most special people get invited in? What kind of people are in the quarterback room every day?

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Q. 5 Mr. Pash see any drafts of this report before it was 6 final? 7 I don't know whether that's privileged or what. You tell me.
8 MR. NASH: I would object to the extent that
9 your answers would have to reveal any privileged
10 communications. But otherwise, I think you can
11 answer subject to that objection.
12 Okay.
13 A. I don't want to waive anything, but the answer is yes.
15 Q. He did receive drafts of the report?
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 Q. Okay Did he give you comments on the report before it was issued after seeing it either verbally or in writing?
20MR. NASH: I think the best way -- I don't want to get into --
21THE WITNESS: You guys tell me what to do.
22MR. NASH: I think there's been a ruling
23 about Mr. Wells's testimony. So to the extent that
24 they are addressing Mr. Pash's role, I think the

Simplified, NFL edited the "independent" investigation and won't say how much it was edited.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Remember that rumor that the Ravens were the ones who tipped off the Colts/League?

https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/628701297869336576

I guess they really got pissed over that, "Study the rule book", thing.

Not sure how the kicking balls are the Pats fault, the NFL has tight control over those.

 

[Arc]

Every day that passes the world will be more and more convinced that this was in fact a witch hunt by the NFL.

There is no credibility to the Wells Report, anyone being objective knows that.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Every day that passes the world will be more and more convinced that this was in fact a witch hunt by the NFL.

There is no credibility to the Wells Report, anyone being objective knows that.

Kinda weird how all the people being objective also happen to be patriot fans.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Kinda weird how all the people being objective also happen to be patriot fans.

You're never going to here an objective opinion on this. If you care enough to post you're either defending the Pats or attacking the Pats for the lols or if you're dead serious because they made your QB puke up moms spaghetti in the Superbowl.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Kinda weird how all the people being objective also happen to be patriot fans.

That's exactly the point, Elwood. The only people who really understand what's going on are those that support the Pats. Everyone else is out to get us! Free Hernandez!

 

[LyleLanley]

Kinda weird how all the people being objective also happen to be patriot fans.

I think there's a solid argument to be made that the Pats (probably) cheated and that Goodell / the NFL handled the whole situation horribly.

 

[KHarvey16]

Kinda weird how all the people being objective also happen to be patriot fans.

False.

I think there's a solid argument to be made that the Pats (probably) cheated and that Goodell / the NFL handled the whole situation horribly.

A solid argument in fact cannot be made to justify that conclusion.

 

[Acerac]

That's exactly the point, Elwood. The only people who really understand what's going on are those that support the Pats. Everyone else is out to get us! Free Hernandez!

Can you blame them? It's the only way other teams have a chance. Get Brady suspended for as long as possible so that the Pats don't make the playoffs, saving their teams the inevitable loss.

...and they call the Pats cheaters. Heh.

 

[ParityBit]

https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ex-204-appeal-hearing-transcript-t-brady.pdf

Transcripts!

Awesome! Nothing to hide. The NFL was against opening the reports and the NFLPA just dumped it all in their lap.

 

[Tom Penny]

Remember that rumor that the Ravens were the ones who tipped off the Colts/League?

https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/628701297869336576

I guess they really got pissed over that, "Study the rule book", thing.

Not sure how the kicking balls are the Pats fault, the NFL has tight control over those.

Can't be true. Harbaugh said he knew nothing of this...

 

[Arc]

Simmons going for the throat on Twitter right now and all day.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

who here is objective

 

[Deku Tree]

who here is objective

When you don't have all the facts and your probably not going to get them then all you have is non objective opinions. However this thread seems to be filled with mostly Pats supporters.

 

[Quotient]

When you don't have all the facts and your probably not going to get them then all you have is non objective opinions. However this thread seems to be filled with mostly Pats supporters.

A thread about the QB of a team being suspended is mostly filled with said fans of that team. I am shocked.

 

[cdyhybrid]

who here is objective

JABEE and bionic are the most objective posters on this website.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Simmons is a lot better know that he isn't at the Mothership.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

JABEE and bionic are the most objective posters on this website.

no they are not

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

no they are not

I agree with cdyhybrid, they are refreshingly objective in all sporting events.

 

[Roberto Duran]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/628686087511273472

Interesting in Brady arbitration transcript, Loren Reisner was "independent investigator", yet he was conducting cross examination for NFL.

The fuck is this?

 

[Elwood Blues]

Simmons is so objective because he is a pats fan.

You're never going to here an objective opinion on this. If you care enough to post you're either defending the Pats or attacking the Pats for the lols or if you're dead serious because they made your QB puke up moms spaghetti in the Superbowl.

Jokes on you. The vikings haven't participated in a superbowl in nearly 40 years.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/628686087511273472


The fuck is this?

The one thing the NFL didn't want you to see!

 

[ParityBit]

This is another nice analysis.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...stimony-about-communications-with-jastremski/

Edit: This is even better .... http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/08/04/tom-brady-appeal-roger-goodell-ted-wells-transcript

Consider what today’s disclosures by the NFLPA contain. For instance, fans can read the how the special teams coordinator for the Ravens alerted a Colts official about his concerns about Patriots footballs. They can also learn how Colts general manager Ryan Grigson contacted NFL executive vice president Troy Vincent about the Patriots footballs, and how Vincent entrusted NFL vice president and former New York Jets executive Mike Kensil to investigate. Kensil, it should be noted, is alleged to have played a role in spreading a false story in the days following the AFC Championship Game that 11 of the Patriots 12 game balls during the AFC Championship Game were underinflated by two pounds of air. Fans can also read about how Wells’ “independent” investigation seemed anything but independent from the NFL, which according to the transcript paid Wells between $2.5 million and $3 million. In his testimony, Wells cited the attorney-client privilege between himself and the NFL in responding to questions posed by Kessler. He also admitted that NFL attorneys, including Lorin Reisner who cross-examined Brady in Brady’s appeal, assisted in the preparation of the report.

 

[KHarvey16]

This is another nice analysis.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...stimony-about-communications-with-jastremski/

Raises a good point.

In a slightly different direction, I'd love to hear what the posters here making declarations about objectivity have to offer in regards to an "objective" rebuttal to the AEI report.

 

[Roberto Duran]

@WALLACHLEGAL

Brady & NFLPA Amended Counterclaim adds key new testimony from Troy Vincent admitting that policy on ball alteration wasn't given to players

lol

 

[BronsonLee]

I'm reading snippets of the transcript, and what the fuck is this shit the NFL is doing
This is clown car stuff

 

[Stinkles]

JABEE and bionic are the most objective posters on this website.

No that's me and kharvey.

 

[Roberto Duran]

Kessler kills Vincent all over this transcript. Here is a nice excerpt

 

[Gigglepoo]

Again, this is the stupidest hill for Goodell to die on.

 

[JCizzle]

Roger going down with the ship, it's beautiful to watch his idiocy play out like this for the world to see.

 

[rjc571]

I can't wait to see Brady sue the NFL for defamation over this (which he has a good chance of winning, due to the false report on the ball deflation levels leaked from the inside the NFL which they refused to correct or allow the Patriots to correct, among other things). Lets see how willing Goodell is to give up his cell phone and email records.

 

[KingBroly]

Again, this is the stupidest hill for Goodell to die on.

He was deflated by the Rice, Hardy and Peterson results, so he had to over-inflate himself on Brady.

Pop goes the weasel.

 

[ParityBit]

I can't wait to see Brady sue the NFL for defamation over this (which he has a good chance of winning, due to the false report on the ball deflation levels leaked from the inside the NFL which they refused to correct or allow the Patriots to correct, among other things). Lets see how willing Goodell is to give up his cell phone and email records.

I forgot which case (Rice?), but in one of them he was asked to hand them over and he denied them. I think it was Mike Florio who reported it.

 

[Arc]

Wow. This is turning out to he better for Brady and the NFLPA than I originally thought. I really hope Brady doesn't settle at this point.

Let Goodell take a nice smacking in court.

 

[hom3land]

I can't believe the Patriots lost a 1st and 4th round draft pick over this. Wtf Roger.

 

[natjjohn]

I can't believe the Patriots lost a 1st and 4th round draft pick over this. Wtf Roger.

I know got off light for cheating.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I agree with cdyhybrid, they are refreshingly objective in all sporting events.

bionic is especially fair when it comes to Michael Jordan and Big Ben.

 

[TheContact]

I know got off light for cheating.

Pretty much every QB alters the balls. And the nfl never even had solid proof that brady took part in this. So yea wtf Goodell.

 

[KingBroly]

Wow. This is turning out to he better for Brady and the NFLPA than I originally thought. I really hope Brady doesn't settle at this point.

Let Goodell take a nice smacking in court.

Goodell's too full of himself to offer a settlement.

 

[TheContact]

Goodell should be fired for his incompetence.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Brady will play in all 16 games. Goodell done fucked up.

 

[impact]

Goodell should be fired for his incompetence.

Should have been fired for the Ray Rice thing...

Dude is 100% scum

 

[teruterubozu]

The Scarborough, Maine police out here is refusing to protect Goodell's vacation home from harassment. Goodell's been holed up for days.

Why does he vacation in New England? What a moron.

 

[hom3land]

10 minutes into sportscenter and no mention of this story.

Where's the panel of explayers that were part of teams that repeatedly had their asses kicked by the pats talking about this case?

 

[Arc]

10 minutes into sportscenter and no mention of this story.

Where's the panel of explayers that were part of teams that repeatedly had their asses kicked by the pats talking about this case?

ESPN only covers this story when news breaks that supports Goodell.

 

[phanphare]

well surprise surprise, Goodell is incompetent. not like he has a track record of similar behavior spanning his entire tenure as commissioner.


the first half of this thread is probably a pretty entertaining read right about now. so many people were so willing to go to bat for Goodell and the NFL on this.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

It's pretty fucking ridiculous that the Pats lost a 1st and 4th round over this.

It's even more so that the NFL was spreading shit about the Wells report being independent, and then not thinking someone would ask if anyone in the office got an advanced copy and actually had the ability to edit it.

 

[Dosia]

It's pretty fucking ridiculous that the Pats lost a 1st and 4th round over this.

It's even more so that the NFL was spreading shit about the Wells report being independent, and then not thinking someone would ask if anyone in the office got an advanced copy and actually had the ability to edit it.

Yeah, too bad Kraft was too much of a pussy and caved.