Guardian Monkey
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Once you beat it you will se who did.
SPOILER: Spoiler Metal Gear Solid V (TPS) Spoiler Thread (Contains Spoilers, Thanos).
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Once you beat it you will se who did.
V3n0m Sn4k3
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Can someone explain this? Venom wakes up and gets saved after the crash by Ocelot at around 4 in the morning? Yet the real BB and Ocelot are together while the sun is up at like... 6 in the morning? And the bridge is collapsed. Ocelot rode off on his horse after to go get Venom. So... how does any of this make sense?
Rin Tohsaka
Banned
If the mask was pulled off would he die?
SkylineRKR
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Metal Gear Solid 5 will explain this.
PeterLegend
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I wish we found out more about Skullface's past and his reasoning for hating Zero. I guess he is just crazy.
EekumBokum
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How do you get the codename hero? I can't find anything online about it
The other strange thing I noticed about the long car ride, was that as it entered the final loading screen (when you get to the power plant), you can see SF move close to Venom's head, and looks to be about to say something more, but it's cuts out because of the loading screen.
Wonder if there was going to be anything more added to his speech. Maybe that one time he visited a mask shop, and saw a particularly lovely mask, that he just had to have.
Wonder if there was going to be anything more added to his speech. Maybe that one time he visited a mask shop, and saw a particularly lovely mask, that he just had to have.
Vyse The Legend
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I think it's 180k heroism points. Thereabouts.
EekumBokum
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I have 232k heroism, but the trophy never popped. I can't find any in-game documentation of having it either.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Not really, Eli has one.
Zabant
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CUT CONTENT
SkylineRKR
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His vision was the opposite to what Zero tried to accomplish. Zero also discontinued the project he wanted to work on.
The Silver
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XANDER CAGE
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There's already the Kiefer thread!
ieptbarakat
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I think I got it after defending someone's fob, not sure if it's related to that or just heroism points.
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
D-Walker and I made quick work of all his security.
150K Heroism points.
I want to.. so i am now negotiating lol.
There is? i don't think i've seen this one. I'll look.
BrokenIcarus
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God damn.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
It hit me this morning as I was putting the pieces together from finishing last night, perhaps the choice to use a cover version of "The Man Who Sold The World" is an additional hint at the body double twist. It could very well just be that Kojima felt the dark synth iteration that Midge Ure performed was more thematically fitting than Bowie's original, but I feel like it was chosen intentionally. Diamond Dogs is very obviously a Bowie reference, so why is the version of a Bowie song we hear a replication and not the original? Could just as easily be a rights thing where Bowie didn't want in or was too expensive, so I won't bet the farm on that. But it was a thought I enjoyed either way.
I should have seen the twist coming a mile away, but it wasn't until Eli's DNA didn't match and the AI Pod not recognizing Snake did it click that something was that off. Chapter 2's awful lack of cohesion between plot points hurts the pacing quite a bit, and I feel like there's some connective tissue missing between where the rest of the game's plot resolves and the "awakening" of Venom as it is revealed to us in Episode 46. A shame that Konami and Kojima butted heads over production issues, at every turn there are hints of a greater desire for ambition that get cut down way too soon. If Kojima ever feels like burning some bridges, it'll be interesting to see just how much he had to take a hacksaw to in order to push the game out by September 1st.
MGS4 felt like a more appropriate sendoff with the countless bits of fanservice and references, but MGSV did give some nuggets of info that help build the greater whole. The tapes with Zero you get after completing Mission 46 give some frame of reference for what the hell he was doing and how his original plan ended up so twisted from what it may have been intended to be. The conversation between Ocelot and Miller where Miller hates the real Big Boss for abandoning him made his unnaturally dickish approach to everything click for me. He feels betrayed and will do whatever it takes to sabotage what BB wants to accomplish. In his anger, he could be taking a far more confrontational route in order to try and send Venom down the wrong path or fuck something up which would throw a wrench into BB's plan.
The MIA Mission 51 would have provided some extra context for Eli's hatred of Boss and why he would go to such lengths to fuck with his legacy in MGS. Liquid decides to chase down Solid because Liquid, Eli, wanted to be the one to snuff the life out of Boss. Little does he realize that the Boss he chased that whole time was a fraud, almost makes his entire arc tragic. He went to hunt down and kill his brother, whom he assumed killed the father that he wanted to murder, and lost it all while his real father just sat in the background and smoked cigars. Big Boss' dismissal of Eli was particularly harsh, "I have nothing to say to him." Solid got it all, even an apology from the tree he fell from.
There's still a few holes that leave a lot to be desired as far as exposition and explanations go, but I think I'm alright with how MGSV played out. I just wish we could have gotten Kojima's original, ambitious title, rather than the cut down version we have now.
I should have seen the twist coming a mile away, but it wasn't until Eli's DNA didn't match and the AI Pod not recognizing Snake did it click that something was that off. Chapter 2's awful lack of cohesion between plot points hurts the pacing quite a bit, and I feel like there's some connective tissue missing between where the rest of the game's plot resolves and the "awakening" of Venom as it is revealed to us in Episode 46. A shame that Konami and Kojima butted heads over production issues, at every turn there are hints of a greater desire for ambition that get cut down way too soon. If Kojima ever feels like burning some bridges, it'll be interesting to see just how much he had to take a hacksaw to in order to push the game out by September 1st.
MGS4 felt like a more appropriate sendoff with the countless bits of fanservice and references, but MGSV did give some nuggets of info that help build the greater whole. The tapes with Zero you get after completing Mission 46 give some frame of reference for what the hell he was doing and how his original plan ended up so twisted from what it may have been intended to be. The conversation between Ocelot and Miller where Miller hates the real Big Boss for abandoning him made his unnaturally dickish approach to everything click for me. He feels betrayed and will do whatever it takes to sabotage what BB wants to accomplish. In his anger, he could be taking a far more confrontational route in order to try and send Venom down the wrong path or fuck something up which would throw a wrench into BB's plan.
The MIA Mission 51 would have provided some extra context for Eli's hatred of Boss and why he would go to such lengths to fuck with his legacy in MGS. Liquid decides to chase down Solid because Liquid, Eli, wanted to be the one to snuff the life out of Boss. Little does he realize that the Boss he chased that whole time was a fraud, almost makes his entire arc tragic. He went to hunt down and kill his brother, whom he assumed killed the father that he wanted to murder, and lost it all while his real father just sat in the background and smoked cigars. Big Boss' dismissal of Eli was particularly harsh, "I have nothing to say to him." Solid got it all, even an apology from the tree he fell from.
There's still a few holes that leave a lot to be desired as far as exposition and explanations go, but I think I'm alright with how MGSV played out. I just wish we could have gotten Kojima's original, ambitious title, rather than the cut down version we have now.
robotoboy20
Banned
So has everyone cried about the silly 9/11 thing being a whole bunch of nothing yet? I'm interested in that fallout.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
"When Gotham, ehem I mean Outer Heaven is ashes, you have my permission to die"
Big Boss to Venom Snake, 1995.
Big Boss to Venom Snake, 1995.
the thing people are waiting for is that site to countdown tonight so not fully yet.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
Yeah Skullface is great. James Horan has a career for life even if he never works again, just by getting paid to say "WHOOOOOOOOOO?!" at conventions.
There is still another 5 hours to go.
http://ingsoc.org/
V has come to.
#neverbegameover
I don't know what to believe really...
Amentallica
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Wait, did I miss something? When Venom is listening to the cassette tape of Big Boss revealing his true identity, that actually takes place many years later, closer to MG1? So Venom goes on believing he's Big Boss for YEARS?
Graphics Horse
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I enjoyed the tapes at the final end, almost made up for code talker droning on about how two female vocal cord parasites cannot copulate and they cannot lay eggs
The pics of three guide showed missions up to 51 didn't it? Is that the case in the real guide? I've not been keeping up with this.
The pics of three guide showed missions up to 51 didn't it? Is that the case in the real guide? I've not been keeping up with this.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
He's been researching the parasites on people for a very long time and says in a tape with codetalker that he's likely filled with every strain, and unable to speak any language but English anymore. Fixating on English isn't just a "I hate English lol" thing, it's basically just where all his trauma and loathing ended up at because the means to eradicate languages presented itself and he'd spent so long working on something revolving around language. Everything he resented about working for Zero with his one-world plans just amplified it. Even the last conversation tape between Zero and Skullface, he says that he doesn't want to forget his pain in a perfect world where no one sees differences, he wants to wear it... and misery loves company.
MAX PAYMENT
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Not only is this fucking stupid, it was poorly communicated.
MGS V summarized in one sentence.
ZeroMaverick
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Omg please. My heart can't take it
Dick Justice
Banned
And doesn't age a day apparently.
https://www.reddit.com/user/140-85
From the r/silenthill
This looks SO Fox Enginey and SO P.T-ish.
+ "Now we wait", "You drowned your sorrows in booze", "Are you sure the only you is you"
Might be SHs-related and not MGS-related (OR BOTH).
I WANT TO BELIEVE.
From the r/silenthill
This looks SO Fox Enginey and SO P.T-ish.
+ "Now we wait", "You drowned your sorrows in booze", "Are you sure the only you is you"
Might be SHs-related and not MGS-related (OR BOTH).
I WANT TO BELIEVE.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
So, when can I utilize the Battle Gear and what does it do?
It doesn't look like the FOX Engine. It looks like a port P.T initiation.
You only use it on deployment missions or whatever they're called, when you send your troops out to pick flowers and stuff.
Zambatoh
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The box is used for concrete and metal. There's is plenty of that in Africa. Especially the airport.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I think those are real life pictures with filters applied to them.
Yeah, you're right. The hype made me look past that. Ugh, why do I have to be so hyped?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Desperation breeds phantoms. Phantom hype.
You feel it too don't you?
NinjamicWZ
Banned
It's explained in a couple tapes, in pretty plain terms.
Wow, I never used the box on any of them. That's cool. I pretty much suspected I was a body double during the intro as soon as he said "you're talking to yourself"after the create-a-character, Raiden 2.0 thing like a lot of people... but the game did a good job of putting it out of my mind and writing it off until I finally got confirmation at the end.
ZeroMaverick
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But phantoms can't melt steel beams
giancarlo123x
Banned
Such lust...
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