Chaos2Frozen
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It lacks the impact that you would tend to see in the best of action games for that aerial spear move, but overall I'm glad it flows much better now.
FINAL FANTASY XV - Niflheim Base Battle Footage
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It lacks the impact that you would tend to see in the best of action games for that aerial spear move, but overall I'm glad it flows much better now.
NoctisVsStar
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Take a leap of faith.. I mean it can't be worse than TPP.
Hmm? I don't like her armored outfit with boob window and muzzle helmet.
MagnaderAlpha
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Also Star Ocean 5, Nier Automata, DQVII and VIII 3DS.
That Setsuna one too. That one looks like a true spiritual successor to Chrono Trigger.
GIANKRATOS
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As someone who have never played a ff and as a fan of everything action (action adventure, character action games, action rpg ecc.), i think this looks great.
dottme
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So it is not your taste. But I don't think this make her dumb.
Gameplay-wise TPP is one of the best playing games ever made.... FFXV will not be.
theofficefan99
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This is a joke, right?
NoctisVsStar
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I'll agree to that I meant story wise
KZXcellent
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To be honest I really like the Dragoon outfit EXCEPT the helmet. It just looks dumb. Like, they wanted a Dragoon helm on her but also wanted her face visible so we have that. Still excited for her character and inevitable boss fight.
That said I'm interested how they'll handle humanoid boss fights in XV. If it's one on four that boss has got to have some amazing mobility and/or fantastic AOE attacks.
That said I'm interested how they'll handle humanoid boss fights in XV. If it's one on four that boss has got to have some amazing mobility and/or fantastic AOE attacks.
SweetTeddie
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I'm curious if this battle system is going to hold up over a 50+ hour game. Dodging, parrying, teleporting etc all look cool but I wonder if it'll get tedious considering how much battling FFXV will likely have. Most games with this type of combat are much shorter (sans Kingdom Hearts).
O-kay?
This is where I see leveling up handling this issue. I'm sure at some point you'll be able to wreck common enemies.
NoctisVsStar
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In order for the combat system to be successful it needs enemies/bosses that make you actually think and have you engaged. Of course, I'm assuming the combat is actually functional.
If you have skills based on weapon slowly open up changing your play style it can work. If you had close to most of your abilities early on then it would drag on too much.
FF stories never interest me, or i guess are the least interesting thing to me.....all about that world and creature designs baby, and since they are swiching to realtime, but backed off on going full Kingdom Hearts to please everyone is making me very nervous.
StickSoldier
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Woh, this game looks awesome. Really impressed with the fluidity of all of it, especially with those graphics.
unity of the void
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This battle footage looks amazing! I've always been excited about this game, but that really looked great.
The only thing left that I'd like to see at a "final" quality are the VFX. It's the one thing that I feel has been understated since the E3 2013 footage. I've always looked at FFs to be the quality apex for VFX in any game, so based off of their history I'm not too worried - I just keep waiting to be wowed and thus far haven't quite been (Ramuh was very close!).
I'm sure the March trailer will be tight and right - well it better be.
The only thing left that I'd like to see at a "final" quality are the VFX. It's the one thing that I feel has been understated since the E3 2013 footage. I've always looked at FFs to be the quality apex for VFX in any game, so based off of their history I'm not too worried - I just keep waiting to be wowed and thus far haven't quite been (Ramuh was very close!).
I'm sure the March trailer will be tight and right - well it better be.
Witcher 3 was what, 60 hours at least? It'll be fine.
Not sure if this has been posted, but it was an interview with Tabata:
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20160201_741571.html
http://femto-jiokichi.tumblr.com/post/138423799813/tpgs-jp2en-interview-with-tabatis-done-by-game
It does seem like there are tiers of the magic. Pretty neat, and also one concerning note about translation. They do Japanese to English and then English to EU languages. That seems like an easy way to lose the meaning behind the original translation.
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20160201_741571.html
http://femto-jiokichi.tumblr.com/post/138423799813/tpgs-jp2en-interview-with-tabatis-done-by-game
It does seem like there are tiers of the magic. Pretty neat, and also one concerning note about translation. They do Japanese to English and then English to EU languages. That seems like an easy way to lose the meaning behind the original translation.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Care to name these games?
A good/fun combat system and good enemy encounters doesn't really get tedious.
lately I have been playing Dragon's Dogma on PC and already spent over 133 hours playing it and still not bored.
hell I even played KH2 final mix over 150 hors and I still come back from time to time because it's fun.
I mean the level of hyperbole regarding the game is ridiculous. Even I agree story isn't as good but better then most AAA titles. GAMEPLAY and thematically alone TPP stands as a phenomenal game. GAF is just gonna GAF when it comes to comparing something they love or hate.
xion4360
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To me the combat in Witcher 3 is just something you occasionally have to do because its in the way of where you are trying to go or what you want to see.
Nothing like combat in this or a kingdom hearts game IMO there will be plenty of battles that are about just killing it asap, but also plenty of battles that require changing your tactics and using whats around you. The witcher is supposed to be about that, but I dont feel the need.
Yikes.
Relaxed Muscle
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But, precisely, combat is one of the weakest parts of W3.
IMO an action game, be an ARPG or a normal action game, lives or dies by the enemy/boss design. You don't look at Ys and say, "oh, there's like 40 different skills and magic to use, so fun", you say "this boss battle was so fun".
If you plan to explore all the map and do most sidequests there's a LOT of fighting to be done in Witcher 3.
I haven't really been able to follow the news/this thread, but have they said anything regarding how attacking works compared to Duscae? I really didn't like how it let you just hold a button down for auto attack and I'm hoping it changes into a system that requires input for each attack.
That's still not clear, afaik, meaning they haven't talked about it yet. I'd love to know that, too.
xion4360
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I dont understand this particular sentiment, like really whats the difference? But if thats what you prefer just hit the buttons instead of holding it. I think it would work either way.
I know, but the fighting itself isnt ever anything special. Thats what I was trying to say.
NoctisVsStar
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Here's Titan:
Leviathan:
This scene in the train could be part of the Shiva battle by the look of it:
This game is gonna be fucking bonkers. Love it.
LowParry
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Disappointed in what way? Too action-y?
Relaxed Muscle
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I too neither really understand this sentiment, if there was some kind of timing based combo system..., but that dosn't seem to be the case...
In that case, I don't fully understand what you mean, 90% KH2 battles can be won just smashing attack button (and QTE attacks) and ocasionally using cure.
Thematically? What do you mean?
Partly, yeah. And just how it controls in general. Hoping they've refined it a bit since Duscae.
xion4360
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Im guessing he means the story and what its about.
This is true. The key will be how many tools they give you from jump, if every encounter requires actual finesse and skill, and how things escalate. I think the KH games do a good job of this via constantly giving you new moves and spells (and forms) up until the end so you are always adding new tools to your arsenal. But also just mashing buttons doesn't always work as enemies are tougher and thus you have to still pay attention...plus things escalated. That way by the time you tire of the gameplay..the game is nearly over ( i also enjoy KH's brand of "storytelling" so that helps too).
Dragons Dogma does the same thing as you are grinding to get better moves and loot while also wondering what monsters the game will begin to throw at you. The end game of that game is the strongest stuff. On the flip side Xenoblade Chronicals X (My GOTY for 2015 even) struggles with this as after you get the flight deck things start to die down (the weaker story doesn't help).
so it will be interesting to see if they hit that needed balance. It does look like however the set piece moments will be the driving force...which could suck for those not into that. I'm just glad it SEEMS like the auto combo stuff has gone away.
LowParry
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I would imagine what we played in Duscae to the final game will be completely different. Honestly wait till March.
Waiting but keeping expectations low. Either way I'm liking what they revealed of the world, lore and story.
LowParry
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And that is really the best approach. Just keep it low key unless there's something you see that really gets you hyped for the game. For me right now it's the music. I want that OST so bad right now.
xion4360
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As long as you dont pause too long before the next press, you can do the full combo by mashing the button. It works, but again there is literally no point to doing so. the combo is meant to be a chain of attacks, there is no system in place to benefit from breaking that up in duscae. The new system with d-pad weapon switching should allow for much more creative play but again, there is no point in mashes vs holding the button.. I mean wouldnt that just get tiring if you're playing for a long time?.. This isnt Ninja Gaiden.
The combat the witcher bores me, let me just say that. I love the game tho.
I figured, yeah, just wondering if people have been analyzing the story and gotten something more out of it. I'm bad at recognizing themes, usually, but even I could tell what TPP's story was going for, and I thought it was heavy-handed and frankly.. Shit. Loved the game otherwise, tho.
But I guess this isn't really the thread for it.
MultiJhonny
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This isn't a bad thing. His work on FFXIV is masterclass.
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQAHMY-9j4
xion4360
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its not Yoko? well im sure she composed it even if this is someone elese's arrangement.
I remember the intro to Parasite Eve had an absolutely incredible track with amazing use of the piano. I believe that was Yoko?
I know it is when i hear the piano because she does amazing things with it.
Yup sounds like were in good hands alongside Yoko.
birthbysleep
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Honestly the combat looks more interesting than the floaty, hack and slash Versus. Still worried about the story though. We've barely seen any cutscenes.
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