wesleyshark
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I get a lot of gold div tech every dark zone run. I think it's from both the global increase of the patch + my scavenging.
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arts&crafts
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I guess right nwo you have to add the gear score of all your gear.
But i assume everyone has 150 as there are 9? slots and each piece is ilvl 30 or 31. Assuming 30.
Main 30
Secondary 30
Sidearm 30
Chest 30
Mask 30
Backpack 30
Gloves 30
holster 30
knee pads 30
= 270 gear score? I have no idea how it works actually.
I don't have a problem with solo rogues, most of these people are piss easy to kill and have no skill at all, the only thing they're good at is bragging online and telling other people to 'git gud', so it's even more satisfying to gun them down like the scrubs they are.
The problem I have is ballancing because at it's current state the DZ will be dead in a matter of weeks and only people left playing it will be the the ones going rogue all the time.leaving them with other rogue players in a constant state of free for all deathmatch. That's certainly not PvP nor how that portion of the game was advertised as.
That's definitely not how it works. All level 30 gear is ilvl 30/31 right? Everyone at level 30 would have the proper gear score then to do the raids, which would mean that gearing up for incursions wouldn't matter because any old green would suffice. Maybe that's true, but that would be super disappointing.
Oh ok, I thought I missed some news about that.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Getting wrecked solo in this game hah. Really need to learn to hide behind cover more. Had fun last night though, just finished the mission where you take back your base and made it to level 5. Probably dive in this weekend and really get into it.
Jest Chillin
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The entire point is that you don't know what other Agents are capable of both in action and gear. Matchmaking based on gear and rogue status and all this other stuff would effectively kill that element of the DZ entirely.
Sure, a few people would feel like it was more balanced but then you'd have to account for things like gear switching once already in server and then there's the fact that some players are just better. They pop their Ults, use consumables, and coordinate better with party members. So what then?
You'd also have less situations like this one from The Division subreddit where people bite off quite a bit more than they can chew.
wesleyshark
Banned
So what's your solution just having a Dusk Zone where no one can shoot at each other?
If you guys are doing DZ tonight, I may randomly jump in if you're allowing people to join. Don't kick me!
Does it have Hair Trigger?
Does it have Hair Trigger?
There's no way that'll be how it works.
I assume we'll be able to see our gear score in a patch closer to the release of the operation.
Dammit Nami, you know the joke!
optimus8936
Banned
I could be wrong but I think that was a destiny joke haha
the mida in destiny having hair trigger an all
sparky2112
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Yes, you need to embrace the core mechanic of the game.
But, yeah, it's brutal if you try to Rambo stuff...
wesleyshark
Banned
This isn't a solution.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Yes, you need to embrace the core mechanic of the game.
But, yeah, it's brutal if you try to Rambo stuff...
Yeah no kidding. Cover system is nice though so far.
Also I love shotguns already, can kinda go Rambo that way. At least if you sneak up and flank people.
Man, they really need to learn about survivor link.
Definity
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Nope. Hopefully massive is working on an API that the community can use to build something with.
It's lightyears behind Destiny in that regard. If this game had a companion app like Destiny did, that would be perfect. Why can't I manage my inventory and vault from my phone? It's 2016!
That would be good. Also they need to allow preview for clothes.
Care to explain why?
wesleyshark
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They need to fix their dps math before they tackle an app.
crashnburn
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So before the Special Weapons vendor reset tomorrow, anything I should make sure I have?
I have already purchased blueprints for the HE firearms mod, HE extended mag, and some armor blueprints (mask, knee pads, backpack). Didn't get the vector cause happy with my Cad and purple M1A combo.
I have already purchased blueprints for the HE firearms mod, HE extended mag, and some armor blueprints (mask, knee pads, backpack). Didn't get the vector cause happy with my Cad and purple M1A combo.
wesleyshark
Banned
Exotic damage is any non-firearm damage source, I believe.
Exotic Damage is fire, electricity etc. (basically any damage source that's neither bullets or melee).
That sucks. Had a Midas drop last night (my first high end) and just wanted to see what the base stats were. Wanted to know if mine had hair trigger. Yes, crazy that a major online game doesn't have that .. in 2016!
This is rich. Just cooking up some breakfast and I was going to add some salt for flavor, but this has already given me all the sodium I need for today. Thanks.
xplicitone
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IIRC, Destiny didn't have that for a while either. It almost makes sense that it's a part of their (Massive) backlog as they had other priorities to work on prior to the release. I'm sure it it's in their backlog but it would have been REALLY nice to have at release.
Man I love this game but there is so much more they could have done in terms of variety. I'd love to see fights against an APC, a helicopter, or something like that. I'd love some missions with more flexible goals and opportunities for a coop party to split up and work in tandem. I'd love more gear and outfits - where are the berets, the shearling bomber jackets, the big-ass bomb squad style armor, or the ultralight carbon fiber vests and arm guards?
I'm having so much fun with the game, but I can't help but imagine all the other stuff they could have fit in within the somewhat realistic context they're established.
I'm having so much fun with the game, but I can't help but imagine all the other stuff they could have fit in within the somewhat realistic context they're established.
True, but you could still see your gear online or through the app, I believe at launch. And I know other games have that functionality as well. Why can't they give me something to do while at work!
Devilinthiscity
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Tried matchmaking yesterday on a challenge mission and kept getting booted out of the group as soon as it finished loading :/
TheLetdown
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Because it presumes that people go rogue for the XP rewards. The reason we see more rogues right now isn't the buff to rewards, but the nerf to the risk. Scaling the reward won't be a disincentive. There's also no way of knowing exactly how many rogues are out there and giving a way of knowing seems counter to the idea of the DZ in the first place.
I'd personally like to see armor mitigation go up when taking player damage. I'd like the lethality toned down so that the firefights are longer and we start to see strategy evolve further than "burn the other guy down as quickly as possible." The use of Skills would start to be highlighted more, positioning and spatial become king.
The other side to this would be that it gives the solo player more of a chance to duck down into the subway, cut through the open building, lose sight with a scaffold, and otherwise adapt.
Anything that moves the DZ back into the direction of grazing NPCs like cattle is a step in the wrong direction, IMO. Not just death but the fear of death needs to be ever-present.
Met my first cheater on PC yesterday - dude was on a roof by the top-left extraction zone and could not be killed. Had 3 guys shooting him with incendiaries and his health would drop to 0 and then go straight back up. Dude used no abilities other than the damage reduction one and definitely didn't have that many healthpacks...
Either he had God-tier equipment or was straight up hacking.
Either he had God-tier equipment or was straight up hacking.
I think I've got 2 left. Just looked it up and see what you're referring to, though - that's cool.
Still, they could have mixed things up earlier and more often.
wesleyshark
Banned
I don't have a problem with rogues. Just rogues who kill me.
This is rich. Just cooking up some breakfast and I was going to add some salt for flavor, but this has already given me all the sodium I need for today. Thanks.
I'd guess that 95-99% of all players going rogue aren't doing it for XP gains and loot. They are going rogue to sow seeds of chaos and just to have fun.
Going rogue is fun. It's by design. A full instance flirting with and then descending into chaos is far more interesting than a full instance of players passing flowers and puppies around.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Forgive all the noobish questions but can you enter the Dark Zone before max level? Is that beneficial? I suppose the game might explain this later as I progress, just curious.
wesleyshark
Banned
This.
Can you let me kill you 20 times?
Yes, it's separated into different tiers by level. You can go in any time you want. I would wait until about level 10 though. You can still get gear and rank up, so there are benefits to be had... but you'll still want to farm at level 30, so I wouldn't spend all day there. That said, I was rank 30 in DZ when I dinged level 30.
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