well, if you love DZ, then lvl 90 stuff is waiting for you
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well, if you love DZ, then lvl 90 stuff is waiting for you
VE3TRO
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Oh shit didn't notice it was in DZ.
Killing rogues and you hear one of them say "what the fck does he have!?"
My combo of the extra cover damage mod, pulse and sometimes stack the crit damage special is deadly. Only this time I added incendiary bullets too.
It seemed like that vector took him down in 3 bullets.
My combo of the extra cover damage mod, pulse and sometimes stack the crit damage special is deadly. Only this time I added incendiary bullets too.
It seemed like that vector took him down in 3 bullets.
Um, as someone who's max level but only casually plays the game, the mat change will guarantee I drop it.
65 hours total, all HE gear apart from the backpack. Only issue is that ALL my HE gear has awful rolls. Low stats, no good perks. Got some HE weapons but I had to buy or craft them as I've only ever had one drop (Cadaceus - but I don't have the stats to use any of the perks).
Game was already a timesink, don't need to triple that.
65 hours total, all HE gear apart from the backpack. Only issue is that ALL my HE gear has awful rolls. Low stats, no good perks. Got some HE weapons but I had to buy or craft them as I've only ever had one drop (Cadaceus - but I don't have the stats to use any of the perks).
Game was already a timesink, don't need to triple that.
wait wut?
PrioritySe7en
Banned
Then they probably shouldn't have made a loot game.
Nothing more?
Just saw the changes to crafting. I already dont' have great gear and can't run CMs and that is with some HE recipe items equipped. I don't have the time to invest running the same few missions over to combine mats. I'm done just like I was after beating Diablo in D3. I'll be back for the patch that fixes this trash.
It's a Destiny Clan, we created it in the TDB days.
the other half of the story:
EL CUCO
Member
We have a Destiny clan for over a year now called WIPE. So we chat on PSN and make fun of Lnkn all the time. Looking forward to The Division clan system!
I thought I heard this as well..looking forward to hearing the other half.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Well I know what Marco was on about now
And yes, its a out of bounds glitch/exploit
PM me bambi.
yeah too much wrong gear that they want
Bode on reddit as well. I mean, we'll see or whatever, but it reeks of clumsy, panicked damage control.
"it's ok to have two jobs"
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Stop stacking firearms and get some armor and stamina!
All about that DPS.
For some reason they didn't realize with a loot game people will always figure out easy ways to farm gear. Now you have a portion of the community, probably a good chunk of us, who are geared waaaay well for the devs liking this early in the game. So they decided to make it more grindy
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The real answer is lack of content. Gotta stretch what little they have for as long as possible until the first paid DLC comes out.
(Sounds familiar!)
TheExecutive
Member
Should I just convert everything to high end mats right now?
wesleyshark
Banned
Well I'm 77 right now, so not too far off haha. The changes won't effect me as much as it will others, but it's their mindset and their reactionary revisionism that sours me the most.
honestly i think vanilla destiny had more content than the division does
Yeah that was it, no mention of the more.
Made me laugh when people say it had no content and didn't even play a raid.
TTK was a great update, but it would have been amazing if they updated VoG, CE and PoE too. The April update is 4 months too late for me, but hopefully Sept it'll be back.
darkistheway
Member
If the reasoning is similar to Bungie's, then it goes something like this:
Create loot game.
Let people get everything (after insane playtimes).
Realize that players quit once they get everything (but really because of insane playtimes).
Change the loot game to a drip feed.
Everyone quits but the whales.
Introduce micro-transactions.
Profit!
My purely cynical take.
Then why do the HE drops I get really suck....
I have gotten like 3-4 HE drops over the past couple of days and only one of them was a marginal upgrade
yes, makes sense to farm materials right now too and convert to HE mats, since they lowered the stuff you get from deconstruction
TheLetdown
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PS4 here, too.
Nice. I'm wavering on the idea. I liked it a lot when I played it but I dropped it because I didn't have a group on-hand for raids. I thought then and still think that raids should support matchmaking. Even if I end up just beating my head against the wall, let that be my choice.
I really liked the PvP, but shit started to get horribly imbalanced. Hopefully, that's sorted out.
I listened to it and I get that they don't want people to be swimming in gear. I'm optimistic that other sources of materials will be provided in the update, so it could offset the crafting changes.
But I'm curious as to what you find positive about it.
I'm of the opinion that the RNG element to crafting, particularly with weapons since you can't re-roll them, is the worst part of this game. I'm not asking for easy gear, but rolling the same weapon 30 times just to get the talents right only to find that, because the DMG of the weapon is also RNGed, it's worse then the thing it's supposed to replace is not fun and it's not progression.
They have to increase HE drops within the game if they want to nerf crafting. Currently crafting is the best way to get good HE's. And you usually have to craft 10 of each to get an alright roll. Making the time sink larger doesn't do anyone favours.. I actually feel bad for new 30's if they don't increase drop rates.
With so much RNG involved, they need to give us a way to re-roll single talents on weapons (500PxC) or something.
With so much RNG involved, they need to give us a way to re-roll single talents on weapons (500PxC) or something.
Yeah I tuned in and he said " I know people are upset right now, reddit is on fire, but wait - just wait".
I don't know man. Why hold onto some kind of big info when it would calm the mob down?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I think the difference is that Destiny already had the roadblocks in place right from the start. So you had to do all those daily bounties because you needed to level up your weapons and armor. And there were those Exotic bounties to do that had you run around doing things like open chests on Mars or get fusion rifle kills in a Nightfall.
Division basically came down to grinding crafting materials to roll weapons/gear, and people basically ran out of things to do in less than two weeks. They're trying to slow people down after the fact and obviously it's backfiring.
wesleyshark
Banned
What a cringeworthy outlook to have.
"People are having too much fun right now. We need to reduce their level of fun."
They don't really have anything concrete to tell is my bet.
wesleyshark
Banned
The Division |OT 3| People Enjoy Our Game too Much So We Are Trying to Change That
Sounds like you've been relying on me to snipe the snipers before you even run up the stairs
yup, also in Destiny you get strange coins from just playing the game, and every Friday you get to spend those on exotics so it was an incentive to try different stuff in the game (crucible, strikes, raids, nightfall etc.) and that's why people keep on playing hoping they will get a Hawkmoon or Gallahorn by different means
Only thing I can think of is token effort: add a bit more to dailies, the DZ drop thing and bounties (or whatever they are called to try to not be Bungie).
Jinjo
Member
Hamish needs to stop watching Division streams and assume streamers are the 'normal player' in these loot-driven type games.
So out of touch.
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