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I was certain that it was PING PING PING (as the sound a mother box makes) not DING DING DING.

I really don't understand the point of this thread. You know it's going to cause controversy. It's just a magnet for drama.
 
Yeezus H. Christ said:
Still can't believe Supes flew a dude through a wall at Mach 1 just like that.
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There's a comparison for this in CW.

When Black Widow somehow is unharmed after being blasted out of a truck by a grenade. Even if you say it's plausible she wasn't injured being smashed up against the doors hard enough for them fly to off their hinges while simultaneously being crushed by a large man she used to block the explosive blast, or that it was possible they weren't just all blown to bits due to the small space in which they were all confined, you'd have a hard time convincing me the concussive force wouldn't have dropped her like a sack of potatoes. There's no way she should have been able to maintain pursuit. That would be the end of her day.
 
I seriously question someone's judgement if they say they like BvS more than Civil War. If you are being really unbiased, it should be apparent to you that there is no story structure in BvS. It is just a mess and incoherent. Biggest problem with the movie was that it was just a bunch of scenes strung together with nothing much to connect them. There are other problems galore, but this was the biggest failing for me.
 
As someone who's not into comics and has only consumed them via TV and movies (Netflix Daredevil is my absolute high bar so far)....

I really REALLY don't get the love for the Avengers films. They just seem so... by the numbers. There's very little of real interest or drama going on, just very simple plots and all the usual action you expect, and third act "let's the beat the big new enemy that's appeared" resolutions.

The worst thing about them is how visually bland they are, there's not much to crow about the look of them. At least Batman V Superman had some directorial nous to it. Some nice cinematography. It's still a disjointed film but I enjoyed it more and it looked far better.


I saw it yesterday and I'd had a long day so I was nearly dropping off during the first third lol, which was quite a long arduous build-up BUT I absolutely perked up when Spider-Man appeared. I LOVED his parts and I'm optimistic for the new Spidey films coming with this actor. Maybe third time lucky?

I just don't feel all that invested in the rest of these characters. They're cool, but far too invincible and super-hero-y for their own good. At no point did I feel all that emotional that Cap and Stark had fallen out and Stark's complete unwillingness to listen to his supposed friend when he's trying to explain what's going on kind of annoyed me.

I just don't see what everyone else sees in them, I don't even appreciate them as being particularly well made or interesting to look at films. What's wrong with you (me?!)?
 
bad said:
I was certain that it was PING PING PING (as the sound a mother box makes) not DING DING DING.

I really don't understand the point of this thread. You know it's going to cause controversy. It's just a magnet for drama.
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Not gonna lie but if that's true... that's actually gives new meaning to "the bell has been rung".
 
a916 said:
Not gonna lie but if that's true... that's actually gives new meaning to "the bell has been rung".
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The DC movie universe is fast tracking everything whereas the Marvel movie is slowly building the foundation to Thanos's arrival. It makes sense as Darkseid is the villain in the first JL movie.
There's a few New Gods Easter eggs in the movie, and I believe the Ping is one of them. And to state my stripped down opinion, the best parts of Dawn of Justice were the New Gods references.
 
16 pages in 12 hours.

OP's probably like:

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Its just... nearly impossible for me to comprehend someone seeing both of these films and feeling BvS was superior. CW is out of BvS's league and its not even fucking close. It isnt just the critics and those of us who have seen both saying it either. The audiences and box office results and following home video sales will likely echo this opinion STRONGLY.


I can understand someone liking BvS. Liking. But to feel its better than CW is just a huge hole for me. Thats sort of crazy. BvS feels like an editing nightmare, while CW flows briskly, effortlessly and coherently from start to finish. It juggles twice as many characters and manages to make you excited for future properties in the universe without making you laugh at Batman reading fucking emails from Lex's server on Wonderwoman Aquaman and Flash and shit.

Its just.... SOOOOOOO much better in execution that its insane. I haven't had time to process CW's cinematography, but if the past holds BvS likely shits on it in that one area. WB doesnt fuck around when it comes to cinematography. They rule the roost there... But by any other metric?

Shiiiiiiiiiit this is a blowout.
 
Yeezus H. Christ said:
BvS' cinematography is good, but it's kind of overdone. I've explained how I felt about it in a previous post; it just doesn't look real at all.
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I don't think it was supposed to. That's not really Snyder's thing with these movies. There's a very direct style he aims for. Dawn of the Dead remake was the closest I think.
 
DavidDesu said:
As someone who's not into comics and has only consumed them via TV and movies (Netflix Daredevil is my absolute high bar so far)....

I really REALLY don't get the love for the Avengers films. They just seem so... by the numbers. There's very little of real interest or drama going on, just very simple plots and all the usual action you expect, and third act "let's the beat the big new enemy that's appeared" resolutions.

The worst thing about them is how visually bland they are, there's not much to crow about the look of them. At least Batman V Superman had some directorial nous to it. Some nice cinematography. It's still a disjointed film but I enjoyed it more and it looked far better.


I saw it yesterday and I'd had a long day so I was nearly dropping off during the first third lol, which was quite a long arduous build-up BUT I absolutely perked up when Spider-Man appeared. I LOVED his parts and I'm optimistic for the new Spidey films coming with this actor. Maybe third time lucky?

I just don't feel all that invested in the rest of these characters. They're cool, but far too invincible and super-hero-y for their own good. At no point did I feel all that emotional that Cap and Stark had fallen out and Stark's complete unwillingness to listen to his supposed friend when he's trying to explain what's going on kind of annoyed me.

I just don't see what everyone else sees in them, I don't even appreciate them as being particularly well made or interesting to look at films. What's wrong with you (me?!)?
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Join the club.
 
The Icon said:
I don't think it was supposed to. That's not really Snyder's thing with these movies. There's a very direct style he aims for. Dawn of the Dead remake was the closest I think.
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Definitely, guess I just prefer Nolan's style, then. Wish we'd get a CBM with cinematography like Fincher's films, Dr. Strange may be able to sate me on that.
 
The Icon said:
You are aware this is not actually a response, right?



Of all the BvS threads you've been in I'm surprised you seem to think talking like that leads to anything. How many people on either side of the argument about BvS have insulted the other? How many of those people received some sort of penalty/punishment?
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Ummm..me? I was called a dick for laughing at some dumb hashtag. Laughed harder. Got banned. BvS is serious business round these parts, homie..
 
vainglorious said:
I'm sick of super hero movies in general.
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This is my fear. That the over saturation of comic book movies will pull many away from comics. Also, the movies were a great way for creators to get some royalty checks. It would suck if that perk goes away.
 
You know how a lot of the time you come out of a long 3 hour movie and say "that was great, it didn't even feel like 3 hours, it flew by"?

BvS's pacing and editing was so bad it felt like 5 hours and I was ready for it to be over at 1.5

Fuck that movie
 
guek said:
At least he focuses on his personal reaction and has the tact to realize he's in the minority without fabricating a bunch of nonsense about these films because they have the audacity to not have Batman in them,.
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To be fair, Man of Steel didn't have Batman in it.

>_>

I'll be over there twiddling my thumbs if anyone needs me.

<_<
 
The Icon said:
There's a comparison for this in CW.

When Black Widow somehow is unharmed after being blasted out of a truck by a grenade. Even if you say it's plausible she wasn't injured being smashed up against the doors hard enough for them fly to off their hinges while simultaneously being crushed by a large man she used to block the explosive blast, or that it was possible they weren't just all blown to bits due to the small space in which they were all confined, you'd have a hard time convincing me the concussive force wouldn't have dropped her like a sack of potatoes. There's no way she should have been able to maintain pursuit. That would be the end of her day.
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Yeah that was a stretch for me too.

Plus Falcon charging into people with his knees at like 100mph. His body would be toast.

But frankly, I don't give a shit when it looks so cool, haha.
 
guek said:
At least he focuses on his personal reaction and has the tact to realize he's in the minority without fabricating a bunch of nonsense about these films because they have the audacity to not have Batman in them,.
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Damn, guek. Tell me how you really feel.
 
Cipherr said:
Its just... nearly impossible for me to comprehend someone seeing both of these films and feeling BvS was superior. CW is out of BvS's league and its not even fucking close. It isnt just the critics and those of us who have seen both saying it either. The audiences and box office results and following home video sales will likely echo this opinion STRONGLY.


I can understand someone liking BvS. Liking. But to feel its better than CW is just a huge hole for me. Thats sort of crazy. BvS feels like an editing nightmare, while CW flows briskly, effortlessly and coherently from start to finish. It juggles twice as many characters and manages to make you excited for future properties in the universe without making you laugh at Batman reading fucking emails from Lex's server on Wonderwoman Aquaman and Flash and shit.

Its just.... SOOOOOOO much better in execution that its insane. I haven't had time to process CW's cinematography, but if the past holds BvS likely shits on it in that one area. WB doesnt fuck around when it comes to cinematography. They rule the roost there... But by any other metric?

Shiiiiiiiiiit this is a blowout.
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I'm the same kind of but in reverse. Not in the CW vs BvS debate, but largely about most of the MCU movies. I can understand liking them. A few of them in particular I can understand liking quite a bit, but my brain just does not understand the weird amount of praise they get. Then when you get people defending something like Thor which is a bottom of the barrel dumpster fire sort of thing in my opinion I just don't understand. I can't comprehend it.

To me BvS does almost everything better than most of the MCU movies I've seen. Like... everything. Script. Cinematography. Action. Soundtrack. Character arcs. Everything. There are a few MCU movies that are hard to really compare because they just turn the silly up to fucking 11 and that's cool in its own way, but other than that...
 
The Icon said:
There's a comparison for this in CW.

When Black Widow somehow is unharmed after being blasted out of a truck by a grenade. Even if you say it's plausible she wasn't injured being smashed up against the doors hard enough for them fly to off their hinges while simultaneously being crushed by a large man she used to block the explosive blast, or that it was possible they weren't just all blown to bits due to the small space in which they were all confined, you'd have a hard time convincing me the concussive force wouldn't have dropped her like a sack of potatoes. There's no way she should have been able to maintain pursuit. That would be the end of her day.
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She shrugged off a gunshot from Bucky in TWS, and it just slowed her down for a bit. Standard fare.

This does not compare to being flown through a wall by a flying brick and expecting someone not to be paste.

I'll agree that by and large, the balloon effect isn't really tackled in these films at all realistically, but that's action movies in general aside from The Hurt Locker and a few others.

To me BvS does almost everything better than most of the MCU movies I've seen. Like... everything. Script. Cinematography. Action. Soundtrack. Character arcs. Everything. There are a few MCU movies that are hard to really compare because they just turn the silly up to fucking 11 and that's cool in its own way, but other than that...
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It's fine to have that opinion, but it's the minority one by far. BvS completely failed to live up to its promise, by any objective measure and by a creative one, where most of the DCAU puts it to shame. There are enough great reasons to have these guys go at it, and despite having mountains of material to pull from, those pieces didn't connect with a big enough audience for it to make more than Deadpool domestically.

Let that sink in for a moment.
 
G-Fex said:
what else are these comic book movie threads supposed to be?
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Good point, but still this is embarrassing. Goes to show that maybe these comic book fans aren't as mature as they think they are, and it's essentially graduation from console war shit slinging.
 
Silver Arrows said:
Good point, but still this is embarrassing. Goes to show that maybe these comic book fans aren't as mature as they think they are, and it's essentially graduation from console war shit slinging.
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They said that? LOL. Comic book fans here are just the goofy gamer folks but on the OT side. They're just as fanboyish and obsessive and...well fandoms. Just fandoms.

Gordon Shumway said:
Butt stuff?
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Here's another one.
 
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