comshoplesce
Member
Whoever doesn't like this, move on....there're many of us 
D) who do like this and we're hyped.
D) who do like this and we're hyped.
The Last of Us Part II announced
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But it was a place where everyone was living somewhat safe for a lot of years.
But oh well, watched the trailer.
Ellie is out there to kill all the fireflys.
Oh man.. So she is putting herself in danger out of her own will..
And Joel sounds different doesn't he?
J3nga
Member
Strange is all we've got atm, like all the Joel is dead theories are not out of thin air? There's too little info right now to state something for sure.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
My theory is more dark. Joel is still alive however is worried about Ellie's self destructive path of revenge. It gets to the point, at the end, where Joel has to stop Ellie for the safety of others.
I dunno man, Ellie becoming a rabid dog and having to be put down by Joel would set off a shit storm among the fandom.
I'd personally be devastated, but that would certainly be a high-profile way to kill off a popular main character.
Jonneh3003
Banned
The Last of Us Unleashed is the real title, Part 2 is a facade
Jonneh3003
Banned
It isn't fan art.
That's ridiculous. The best theory is that Tommy's town gets invaded by the Fireflies who then take Joel's house into space. Cue whimsical gravity-defying space adventures as Ellie brings back power to the Star Observatory.
The Cretan
Member
Besides the guitar, her shirt (not the colour, though), what she wears underneath the shirt and her shoes are the same ones in the trailer. So, I assume this is a concept art of the game and that means she is hunted by the Fireflies probably. Also, she will have a bow and a journal or something. There is a book in the trailer (notice the right side of the image below), but I doubt it's the same one or that is Ellie's.
Faynwulf
Member
But they said in the Panel that it takes place 5 years after the first game. So it definitely can't be "soon after".
Cave Johnson
Member
That would be so cliché. If ND ever goes on that route I hope their storytelling makes up for it.
WaterAstro
Member
yah she killed dem fireflies
Fireflies must've torched Tommy's town or something, and it set Ellie off the rocker.
Fireflies must've torched Tommy's town or something, and it set Ellie off the rocker.
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
read it again. he said soon after joel finally tells ellie. not soon after the ending of the game. so it's possible joel didn't tell her for years after the ending of the first game.
Mr. Giggles
Member
Oh em gee.
I can't wait!!!!!!!
I can't wait!!!!!!!
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
i think Ellie will be the main character that the story revolves around throughout the series assuming they make more than 2 parts. the 1st one being her origin story set when she was a young teenager and we play mostly as joel. 2nd we get to play as ellie who is now a young adult and i bet joel dies at some point. in the 3rd we continue with ellie but there will be some new character who is close to her.
that way we get a good balance between fresh new characters and a character who we all feel attached to. we can't do joel + ellie forever and while it would be cool to have completely new characters it just wouldn't feel as connected.
what's happening in 2025?
that way we get a good balance between fresh new characters and a character who we all feel attached to. we can't do joel + ellie forever and while it would be cool to have completely new characters it just wouldn't feel as connected.
what's happening in 2025?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Tommy's 5 year old son will get infected in this.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yeah, but I envision it as a stark opposite to the first: Joel has to kill Ellie now to save the little good there is left in the world and the end scene could be him cradling Ellie like he did in the first scene with his daughter.
When Druckmann said hate, it made feel like the game will explore the darker sides of revenge and its affect on Joel and Ellie's relationship.
Comfort Jones
Banned
Alright so we agree him holding a revolver still has nothing to do whether or not he's a ghost.
Yabberwocky
Member
I'm a bit conflicted, as I feel like if something happened to Tommy or even just the town, Joel would be the one of the path of vengeance just as much as Ellie. It does make me worry that something happened to Joel, which, euuurgh, do not want. The only other thing I can think of is Ellie somehow getting some revelation/knowledge about something re: her mother and the Fireflies, but. Yeah.
Noooooo. I'm dreading how many years I'll be wondering if Joel is dead or not for. Schrodinger's Joel.
I'll tell you when i get there.
J3nga
Member
You don't have to agree on anything, it's just my opinion, stick to yours, i'll stick to mine.
BossDarkseid
Member
Kinda impressed that ND's next two projects have female leads. The Chloe stuff for Uncharted will be fun and the idea for Pt 2 sounds interesting, like some middle chapter of a western trilogy.
Straley does the DLC while Druckmann directs this? Sounds good.
Straley does the DLC while Druckmann directs this? Sounds good.
Comfort Jones
Banned
Rewatching the trailer, honestly I cannot get over how dumb it is that she's opting to play the guitar just moments after killing two people AND while staring at a dude's corpse.
I don't think I'll ever be able to see this stuff as the high art people seem to make it out to be.
I don't think I'll ever be able to see this stuff as the high art people seem to make it out to be.
Hello, COD in a minute?
Yeah, I think everything is going fine in Tommy's town, with a relatively happy life, until the Fireflies come fucking everything up to get to Ellie. And I think Ellie is on Joel's side no matter his
, because she now believes in a new future due to the succes of Tommy's town, instead of sacrificing herself for a potential cure. I think that would be a sensible character development.
lies and actions in part I
Comfort Jones
Banned
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
Lollll that was definitely a bit much.
excelsiorlef
Member
The trailer doesn't scream Joel is dead to me if only because they show him independently arrive through the front door of the house and walk through the house to Ellie, gun drawn.
Psychic ghosts generally don't appear in other rooms independently of the the person whose psyche is conjuring them.
Had Joel just appeared at the bedroom door I'd buy it but not with him walking into the house.
Psychic ghosts generally don't appear in other rooms independently of the the person whose psyche is conjuring them.
Had Joel just appeared at the bedroom door I'd buy it but not with him walking into the house.
Comfort Jones
Banned
Honestly I feel like the reason people feel he might be dead is the way he starts the conversation is mad awkward. He doesn't ask wtf happened in the house, he doesn't seem concerned about much of anything really. Just asks if she's "gonna go through with this" right after she's done playing guitar. Not really how someone would probably start that conversation in that situation.
Whether or not that's what they were going for, idunno.
GIANKRATOS
Member
Well he doesn't necessarely have to kill her to stop her (unless she's transforming lol). I like it because it would mimic how in the first game Ellie saved Joel both from a life threatening situation and to move on from the past. Wouldn't that be cool?
I don't know, I'm going with the he's dead thing too.
That's the reason for the carnage.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
?She's reminiscing about Joel because he was the one who teach her guitar.
Comfort Jones
Banned
Yeah that doesn't really address what I said there lol.
It is obviously a stylistic choice, but I think for the characters in the TLOU world a few corpses don't make that much of an impression anymore. Especially characters like Ellie and Joel who have dozens/hundreds of bodies on them. Furthermore, many people sing to calm down and people in shock can act as if everything is normal as a protection mechanism, so that could be a possibility as well.
Also, what is "high art" for you? Because, for example, a ton of arthouse films have people doing the weirdest shit that wouldn't happen in real life.
Why not? By then, killing people is just so normal for them. Even more so that it takes place 3 or so years later.
Awkward would be Joel feeling concerned about it. I mean, do you remember how TLOU ended in the burning cabin? We don't even know if Joel was with her when all hell broke loose anyway. Maybe he went outside for a while after the fact for whatever reason. Let's have some imagination here.
I agree, at this point it makes sense for them to be completely desensitized for killing people/corpses, with the exception of people they know and love offcourse. Sad, but not surprising. Especially in Joel's case.
Comfort Jones
Banned
I feel like game logic has truly gripped people's minds when they say things like "killing is normal". This is not how people function even if they are used to death.
Honestly even in the first game if Joel walked in on someone doing what she's doing he'd probably say "what in the hell are you doing?"
Honestly even in the first game if Joel walked in on someone doing what she's doing he'd probably say "what in the hell are you doing?"
Do we know what happened here? For all we know Joel was involved and comes strolling back after checking the area. Point is, nobody here knows the exact context of this teaser.