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[MiamiWesker]

That and all the crafting but man... I'm with you.

Yes someone is going to complain about crafting ammo and health. I predict the biggest complaints will be that there isn't much to do outside fighting robots or humans and that crafting is so necessary.

 

[SlasherJPC]

So been playing on and off with headphones and also my surround sound. Either way, the details in the audio, from the bass of the robo dinos stomping or the music. To the sound of the rain and wind. Audio quality is excellent and I've found my characters have good to great voice acting.

 

[Neoleo2143]

Yes someone is going to complain about crafting ammo and health. I predict the biggest complaints will be that there isn't much to do outside fighting robots or humans and that crafting is so necessary.

Just curious, is the Crafting interesting? Or is it just a basic Upkeep/reload mechanic in disguise?

 

[LifeBrandRobot]

This game kind of reminds me of a game with rupees, Triangle power and a guy named after a piece of a chain. Rip off

If it was a person I'm sure Horizon would be honoured to be compared to the Witcher 3.

 

[onemanasylum]

Yes someone is going to complain about crafting ammo and health. I predict the biggest complaints will be that there isn't much to do outside fighting robots or humans and that crafting is so necessary.

Those are valid criticisms. Personally all I want to fight is robots.

 

[Chris Metal]

Just waiting on the edgy 6 from site.

GameCritics I would chance on giving a low score. They don't seem to enjoy much... Neither U4 nore Bloodborne. HZD is doomed.

 

[MiamiWesker]

Pst, honeymoon phase.
/S

It seems you went from I really like it (7 or 8 out of 10) to this is great (9 or 10 out of 10).

Yup it keeps getting better. I was stuck running around the first areas for so many hours and neglected the main story which takes you to amazing areas with way better enemies and story moments. And this city I am in now, I'm super impressed. And I still have so much of the map to go! But I'm running out of robot types to find so I feel I might have seen all the best ones already. I wonder how this all holds up for the rest of the missions.

 

[texhnolyze]

Cannot answer that. never played it yet.

I thought you've read and seen so many good impressions and videos out there.

 

[LastMinuteHero]

GameCritics I would chance on giving a low score. They don't seem to enjoy much... Neither U4 nore Bloodborne. HZD is doomed.

I'd wager Slant is going to trash this game too

 

[SlasherJPC]

Yup it keeps getting better. I was stuck running around the first areas for so many hours and neglected the main story which takes you to amazing areas with way better enemies and story moments. And this city I am in now, I'm super impressed. And I still have so much of the map to go! But I'm running out of robot types to find so I feel I might have seen all the best ones already. I wonder how this all holds up for the rest of the missions.

I'm on my way you

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Meridian

I take it that's the city?

 

[MiamiWesker]

Just curious, is the Crafting interesting? Or is it just a basic Upkeep/reload mechanic in disguise?

It's pretty basic, it serves to keep the gameplay loop going. You need crafting items to make ammo to fight the robots that give you the items to make more ammo and upgrade all your gear. The healing stuff may be what drives some people mad though, you need to grab flowers or hunt regular animals, that can be tedious.

 

[he who dwells]

Dope-ass CG Trailer tho.

Shit tier game tho,made me quit the series. What and awful, awful game.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

This sounds great as those were my favorite parts of the Ezio trilogy of Assassins creed games. About how long would you say it takes to do.

The first one took about 30 minutes

 

[onemanasylum]

I thought you've read and seen so many good impressions and videos out there.

I did, what does that have to do with not knowing every aspect of the game? How are the two even related?

 

[TimeEffect]

Why are you surprised? People have been saying the story is interesting

Im curious about sidequests and mystery/diversity in the tribes and NPCs and allcthat

 

[MiamiWesker]

I'm on my way you

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Meridian

I take it that's the city?

Yes. It's unlike anything you have seen up to this point and it's just impressive in so many ways. I'm in awe. This is guerrilas masterpiece, I can't believe they made this.

 

[Neoleo2143]

It's pretty basic, it serves to keep the gameplay loop going. You need crafting items to make ammo to fight the robots that give you the items to make more ammo and upgrade all your gear. The healing stuff may be what drives some people mad though, you need to grab flowers or hunt regular animals, that can be tedious.

A pity, something to improve for next time I suppose.

 

[HeisenbergWW62]

Yes. It's unlike anything you have seen up to this point and it's just impressive in so many ways. I'm in awe. This is guerrilas masterpiece, I can't believe they made this.

Hnnnnnnnnnng

 

[texhnolyze]

I did, what does that have to do with not knowing every aspect of the game? How are the two even related?

I just wondered that might have been mentioned in one of the previews/videos that I missed.

Have any of the impressions given deeper analysis in combat?

 

[onemanasylum]

I just wondered that might have been mentioned in one of the previews/videos that I missed.

Have any of the impressions given deeper analysis in combat?

I think so, but it's a long thread, cannot remember specifics.

 

[M.W.]

How's performance on base and pro versions?

 

[Brix]

So been playing on and off with headphones and also my surround sound. Either way, the details in the audio, from the bass of the robo dinos stomping or the music. To the sound of the rain and wind. Audio quality is excellent and I've found my characters have good to great voice acting.

Dope!

 

[toddhunter]

Yep, same for me. I think every game is repetitive, actually. It is just more apparent in some games because of their design (i.e, being open world). Being repetitive isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

Either way, I'm just glad the gameplay seems to be super solid.

This isn't really true.

Every modern open world game is repetitive is more to the point and is something I really hate. The story and characters need to be top notch to save the day, TW3 style.

This game sounds promising in that regard but I'm not really buying it just yet. I would want to hear a lot more impressions about this side of the game because it all sounds "better than expected", where "expected" for a game like this is still pretty terrible.

 

[ronaldthump]

It's pretty basic, it serves to keep the gameplay loop going. You need crafting items to make ammo to fight the robots that give you the items to make more ammo and upgrade all your gear. The healing stuff may be what drives some people mad though, you need to grab flowers or hunt regular animals, that can be tedious.

healing isn't too much of an issue. there's plenty of animals around. I find myself running out of wires because I'm using the what have you bow and I thought they need to implement a Buy more than 1 feature as I'm sitting there tapping X to buy multiple ones.


The crafting takes its cues from FarCry a bit. You use your resources to:

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1. upgrade your holding capacity for arrows/bombs/etc
2. use resources to craft ammunition

I gotta say, while its annoying to run out of ammo - eg I have no wires so I couldn't use my tripcaster - it made me do other things in combat which meant I had to mix it up a bit.


btw, combat in Horizon isn't just limited to using your weapons. You can override animals and get them to fight; although its a free for all when it happens. Hence the need to clear

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Cauldrons

.

Last night

Overrode 2 x

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crocodiles

and there were

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longnecks * think ostrichey and other creatures around

nearby and they all fought one another and I ran around avoid the chaos and racking up the kills with limited ammo.


There's more to combat than just you fighting them. The fact that overriding creatures is part of the gameplay adds that to the game

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area with the big cows: override 1-2 and let them go crazy.

Incredibly epic. That alone makes the game watching these behemoths go to town on one another.

 

[MetalliCabombination]

So been playing on and off with headphones and also my surround sound. Either way, the details in the audio, from the bass of the robo dinos stomping or the music. To the sound of the rain and wind. Audio quality is excellent and I've found my characters have good to great voice acting.

Hows the hdr? On a scale of ffxv to tlg. Haven't heard anything about it.

And just generally does the pro get anything other than a res boost?

 

[DriftingSpirit]

This isn't really true.

Every modern open world game is repetitive is more to the point and is something I really hate. The story and characters need to be top notch to save the day, TW3 style.

This game sounds promising in that regard but I'm not really buying it just yet. I would want to hear a lot more impressions about this side of the game because it all sounds "better than expected", where "expected" for a game like this is still pretty terrible.

Nah, repetition is the recurrence of something. That applies to every game.

And I have no clue what the bold is and where you got it from.

 

[More_Badass]

This isn't really true.

Every modern open world game is repetitive is more to the point and is something I really hate. The story and characters need to be top notch to save the day, TW3 style.

This game sounds promising in that regard but I'm not really buying it just yet. I would want to hear a lot more impressions about this side of the game because it all sounds "better than expected", where "expected" for a game like this is still pretty terrible.

Well that all depends on what your expectations here, doesnt it? My expectations were about whether the combat would be fun, if the world would be interesting to explore and dynamic.

 

[Boke1879]

I'm not getting at all where the "expected" was supposed to be terrible. Every time people played the game have praised it.

 

[ronaldthump]

I'm on my way you

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Meridian

I take it that's the city?

The scale of that city was pretty amazing. I actually thought of FFXIII and how they can't do a city? Fuck FFXIII. Then you run around and

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there's a bloody elevator taking you down to the lower level?

Fuck me.

You'll notice that when you run past the

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guards - that they raise their weapons.

Its a neat touch.

 

[onemanasylum]

I'm not getting at all where the "expected" was supposed to be terrible. Every time people played the game have praised it.

Makes no sense.

 

[Baroquemantic]

It's going to be cool seeing videos of people experimenting with overrides during combat. Maybe in sequels (or patches), they'll give you more control over it.

 

[Chris Metal]

Those are valid criticisms. Personally all I want to fight is robots.

True. But these sort of criticism can be held for any loot gathering rpg and HZD can't be blamed for the inclusion of such systems. Witcher 3 had you oiling swords before almost every few fights, or changing it regularly depending on the monster. Crafting and inventory management was abundant in game for potions and repair kits as you had to maintain Gear/weapons, even more awkward before they patched the stash boxes. Oh and Geralt saying Come on Roach regularly to a human sounding horse going brrrr got really tiresome.

W3 is one of my all time favourite games, but you can find personal niggles with anything.

 

[More_Badass]

It's going to be cool seeing videos of people experimenting with overrides during combat. Maybe in a future games (or patches), they'll give you more control over it.

You can override during combat? I assumed it was a stealth move

 

[onemanasylum]

True. But these sort of criticism can be held for any loot gathering rpg and HZD can't be blamed for the inclusion of such systems. Witcher 3 had you oiling swords before almost every few fights, or changing it regularly depending on the monster. Crafting and inventory management was abundant in game for potions and repair kits as you had to maintain Gear/weapons, even more awkward before they patched the stash boxes. Oh and Geralt saying Come on Roach regularly to a human sounding horse going brrrr got really tiresome.

W3 is one of my all time favourite games, but you can find personal niggles with anything.

Oh I definitely agree with you there. I just meant I can see that bothering some people, not enough to be a big deal, but at least one thing they won't like about it.

 

[Floody]

I'm not getting at all where the "expected" was supposed to be terrible. Every time people played the game have praised it.

Maybe he's means you generally don't expect good gameplay from a WRPG? Horizon's gameplay has always been talked about positively though, so if he's referring to that then yeah not sure what he's on about.

 

[Baroquemantic]

You can override during combat? I assumed it was a stealth move

No idea, but I assume you can. Maybe I'm wrong. But what I was saying was watching the machines you override fight other machines.

 

[jayu26]

Yeah. "Better than expected" is being used for story and lore, for which some were very skeptical despite the correct hirings to alleviate that issue. The gameplay itself has gotten praise since the first hands on demos.

 

[Devilinthiscity]

Can you mix and match gear? I don't remember if it was possible when they showed that off in one of the videos.

 

[LastMinuteHero]

I'm not getting at all where the "expected" was supposed to be terrible. Every time people played the game have praised it.

Unless you have completely ignored every bit of news regarding this game. Or maybe you want to confuse your opinion for the expectation of the majority

 

[Psychological Intellect]

I just played for like 4 hours and moved 1%. collected a few things, did my first cauldron, finished, did a few quests.

I'm gonna need to get back to the main quest eventually.

 

[MiamiWesker]

Damn found a sort of screw up with the lore that they need to patch. I am enthralled with this story and it ruined it for me. The journal is amazing and quite funny but...

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in the hunters lodge there is a story of the redmaw, the most fearsome beast in all the land. And it describes all the attempts to kill it and how everyone died. Next to that book is volume 2 which I go to read and it tells of the story of how Aloy and her hawk master fought and killed the redmaw and I'm like wtf spoilers!!! Why is the book of my accomplishments there already, fix that GG.

.

 

[toddhunter]

Well that all depends on what your expectations here, doesnt it? My expectations were about whether the combat would be fun, if the world would be interesting to explore and dynamic.

Combat is fair enough but when was the last open world game where the world was interesting to explore and dynamic?

I don't even think of these games as open world. They are open landscape where everything just happens in a really big area. There is no interactivity, no persistence and nothing really interesting to find, just slightly different textures.

My expectation is that this game will be open landscape #3567743 with ok combat. That goes a long way but having a good story on top would be really interesting.

So is the story good in the context of assassins creed or is it actually well done? Seems I need to keep an eye on this to find out, which is more than I expected.

 

[isaacnukem]

I'm glad to see so much positive preview hype, but I'm seriously pissed with how people like to spoil things. I had an Ellie plot point ruined for me randomly when TLoU came out, and now with this, people have been spreading Alloy spoilers all over my social media. I'm constantly blocking people and removing comments. Trolling and console war drama is all fun and everything, but spoiling stories is on a whole other level of scummy. Honestly, what gratification does one get to ruin stories for people like me who are basically in media blackout mode?

I feel sorry for you, I don't have the same problem because I can only count my gaming friends on the fingers of my two hands, and even then, they're not the spoiler type of folks. Must help that I lend them my games...

 

[Karak]

Got to watch some today from another persons copy but had to leave just because I didn't want to get spoiled to much on locations and such. Looked good.

 

[The Lamp]

TIL you can be way too weak to explore a cauldron. I'll go back later lol

Edit: can't escape. Welp

 

[texhnolyze]

Got to watch some today from another persons copy but had to leave just because I didn't want to get spoiled to much on locations and such. Looked good.

You're not reviewing this time?

 

[pixelbox]

Yes. It's unlike anything you have seen up to this point and it's just impressive in so many ways. I'm in awe. This is guerrilas masterpiece, I can't believe they made this.

I fell to my knees.

 

[tiebreaker]

Damn found a sort of screw up with the lore that they need to patch. I am enthralled with this story and it ruined it for me. The journal is amazing and quite funny but...

Spoiler

in the hunters lodge there is a story of the redmaw, the most fearsome beast in all the land. And it describes all the attempts to kill it and how everyone died. Next to that book is volume 2 which I go to read and it tells of the story of how Aloy and her hawk master fought and killed the redmaw and I'm like wtf spoilers!!! Why is the book of my accomplishments there already, fix that GG.

.

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Probably it's a different Aloy and your character is named after her?? Or maybe it's part of the mystery?

 

[pixelbox]

Can you mix and match gear? I don't remember if it was possible when they showed that off in one of the videos.

Nope

 

[Krakin]

Damn found a sort of screw up with the lore that they need to patch. I am enthralled with this story and it ruined it for me. The journal is amazing and quite funny but...

Spoiler

in the hunters lodge there is a story of the redmaw, the most fearsome beast in all the land. And it describes all the attempts to kill it and how everyone died. Next to that book is volume 2 which I go to read and it tells of the story of how Aloy and her hawk master fought and killed the redmaw and I'm like wtf spoilers!!! Why is the book of my accomplishments there already, fix that GG.

.

Welp. That is indeed a problem