MiamiWesker
Member
Yes someone is going to complain about crafting ammo and health. I predict the biggest complaints will be that there isn't much to do outside fighting robots or humans and that crafting is so necessary.
Horizon Zero Dawn Spoiler-free Impressions (for real this time)
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Yes someone is going to complain about crafting ammo and health. I predict the biggest complaints will be that there isn't much to do outside fighting robots or humans and that crafting is so necessary.
SlasherJPC
Banned
So been playing on and off with headphones and also my surround sound. Either way, the details in the audio, from the bass of the robo dinos stomping or the music. To the sound of the rain and wind. Audio quality is excellent and I've found my characters have good to great voice acting.
Neoleo2143
Member
Just curious, is the Crafting interesting? Or is it just a basic Upkeep/reload mechanic in disguise?
LifeBrandRobot
Member
If it was a person I'm sure Horizon would be honoured to be compared to the Witcher 3.
onemanasylum
Banned
Those are valid criticisms. Personally all I want to fight is robots.
Chris Metal
Member
GameCritics I would chance on giving a low score. They don't seem to enjoy much... Neither U4 nore Bloodborne. HZD is doomed.
MiamiWesker
Member
Yup it keeps getting better. I was stuck running around the first areas for so many hours and neglected the main story which takes you to amazing areas with way better enemies and story moments. And this city I am in now, I'm super impressed. And I still have so much of the map to go! But I'm running out of robot types to find so I feel I might have seen all the best ones already. I wonder how this all holds up for the rest of the missions.
texhnolyze
Banned
I thought you've read and seen so many good impressions and videos out there.
LastMinuteHero
Member
I'd wager Slant is going to trash this game too
SlasherJPC
Banned
MiamiWesker
Member
It's pretty basic, it serves to keep the gameplay loop going. You need crafting items to make ammo to fight the robots that give you the items to make more ammo and upgrade all your gear. The healing stuff may be what drives some people mad though, you need to grab flowers or hunt regular animals, that can be tedious.
he who dwells
Member
Shit tier game tho,made me quit the series. What and awful, awful game.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
The first one took about 30 minutes
onemanasylum
Banned
I did, what does that have to do with not knowing every aspect of the game? How are the two even related?
TimeEffect
Member
Im curious about sidequests and mystery/diversity in the tribes and NPCs and allcthat
MiamiWesker
Member
Yes. It's unlike anything you have seen up to this point and it's just impressive in so many ways. I'm in awe. This is guerrilas masterpiece, I can't believe they made this.
Neoleo2143
Member
A pity, something to improve for next time I suppose.
HeisenbergWW62
Banned
Hnnnnnnnnnng
texhnolyze
Banned
I just wondered that might have been mentioned in one of the previews/videos that I missed.
Have any of the impressions given deeper analysis in combat?
onemanasylum
Banned
I think so, but it's a long thread, cannot remember specifics.
Dope!
toddhunter
Member
This isn't really true.
Every modern open world game is repetitive is more to the point and is something I really hate. The story and characters need to be top notch to save the day, TW3 style.
This game sounds promising in that regard but I'm not really buying it just yet. I would want to hear a lot more impressions about this side of the game because it all sounds "better than expected", where "expected" for a game like this is still pretty terrible.
ronaldthump
Member
healing isn't too much of an issue. there's plenty of animals around. I find myself running out of wires because I'm using the what have you bow and I thought they need to implement a Buy more than 1 feature as I'm sitting there tapping X to buy multiple ones.
The crafting takes its cues from FarCry a bit. You use your resources to:
1. upgrade your holding capacity for arrows/bombs/etc
2. use resources to craft ammunition
2. use resources to craft ammunition
I gotta say, while its annoying to run out of ammo - eg I have no wires so I couldn't use my tripcaster - it made me do other things in combat which meant I had to mix it up a bit.
btw, combat in Horizon isn't just limited to using your weapons. You can override animals and get them to fight; although its a free for all when it happens. Hence the need to clear
Cauldrons
Last night
Overrode 2 x
crocodiles
longnecks * think ostrichey and other creatures around
There's more to combat than just you fighting them. The fact that overriding creatures is part of the gameplay adds that to the game
area with the big cows: override 1-2 and let them go crazy.
Incredibly epic. That alone makes the game watching these behemoths go to town on one another.
MetalliCabombination
Member
Hows the hdr? On a scale of ffxv to tlg. Haven't heard anything about it.
And just generally does the pro get anything other than a res boost?
DriftingSpirit
Member
Nah, repetition is the recurrence of something. That applies to every game.
And I have no clue what the bold is and where you got it from.
More_Badass
Member
Well that all depends on what your expectations here, doesnt it? My expectations were about whether the combat would be fun, if the world would be interesting to explore and dynamic.
ronaldthump
Member
The scale of that city was pretty amazing. I actually thought of FFXIII and how they can't do a city? Fuck FFXIII. Then you run around and
there's a bloody elevator taking you down to the lower level?
You'll notice that when you run past the
guards - that they raise their weapons.
onemanasylum
Banned
Makes no sense.
Baroquemantic
Member
It's going to be cool seeing videos of people experimenting with overrides during combat. Maybe in sequels (or patches), they'll give you more control over it.
Chris Metal
Member
True. But these sort of criticism can be held for any loot gathering rpg and HZD can't be blamed for the inclusion of such systems. Witcher 3 had you oiling swords before almost every few fights, or changing it regularly depending on the monster. Crafting and inventory management was abundant in game for potions and repair kits as you had to maintain Gear/weapons, even more awkward before they patched the stash boxes. Oh and Geralt saying Come on Roach regularly to a human sounding horse going brrrr got really tiresome.
W3 is one of my all time favourite games, but you can find personal niggles with anything.
More_Badass
Member
You can override during combat? I assumed it was a stealth move
onemanasylum
Banned
Oh I definitely agree with you there. I just meant I can see that bothering some people, not enough to be a big deal, but at least one thing they won't like about it.
Maybe he's means you generally don't expect good gameplay from a WRPG? Horizon's gameplay has always been talked about positively though, so if he's referring to that then yeah not sure what he's on about.
Baroquemantic
Member
No idea, but I assume you can. Maybe I'm wrong. But what I was saying was watching the machines you override fight other machines.
Devilinthiscity
Member
Can you mix and match gear? I don't remember if it was possible when they showed that off in one of the videos.
LastMinuteHero
Member
Unless you have completely ignored every bit of news regarding this game. Or maybe you want to confuse your opinion for the expectation of the majority
Psychological Intellect
Banned
I just played for like 4 hours and moved 1%. collected a few things, did my first cauldron, finished, did a few quests.
I'm gonna need to get back to the main quest eventually.
I'm gonna need to get back to the main quest eventually.
MiamiWesker
Member
Damn found a sort of screw up with the lore that they need to patch. I am enthralled with this story and it ruined it for me. The journal is amazing and quite funny but...
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in the hunters lodge there is a story of the redmaw, the most fearsome beast in all the land. And it describes all the attempts to kill it and how everyone died. Next to that book is volume 2 which I go to read and it tells of the story of how Aloy and her hawk master fought and killed the redmaw and I'm like wtf spoilers!!! Why is the book of my accomplishments there already, fix that GG.
toddhunter
Member
Combat is fair enough but when was the last open world game where the world was interesting to explore and dynamic?
I don't even think of these games as open world. They are open landscape where everything just happens in a really big area. There is no interactivity, no persistence and nothing really interesting to find, just slightly different textures.
My expectation is that this game will be open landscape #3567743 with ok combat. That goes a long way but having a good story on top would be really interesting.
So is the story good in the context of assassins creed or is it actually well done? Seems I need to keep an eye on this to find out, which is more than I expected.
isaacnukem
Member
I feel sorry for you, I don't have the same problem because I can only count my gaming friends on the fingers of my two hands, and even then, they're not the spoiler type of folks. Must help that I lend them my games...
texhnolyze
Banned
You're not reviewing this time?
I fell to my knees.
tiebreaker
Member
Probably it's a different Aloy and your character is named after her?? Or maybe it's part of the mystery?
Welp. That is indeed a problem