Skittzo0413
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An NDA doesn't forbid small talk though! "Not allowed to say" is a hilarious response to "what's up?"
I'm guessing David Wise gets asked about his projects quite often.
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An NDA doesn't forbid small talk though! "Not allowed to say" is a hilarious response to "what's up?"
I'm guessing David Wise gets asked about his projects quite often.
Isn't that the point of Xenoblade/Monolith Soft?
TheMoon
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you're being too literal, and you misread. he asked "what he is up to" (what he is working on right now), not "what's up?"
menus are scary. and "monolithsoft is not nintendo because reasons"
Skittzo0413
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Oh man, that'll teach me to wake up too early. I was wondering why I was the only one who thought that was hilarious.
Anyway I still think Diddy Kong Racing is definitely a possibility, it's a fairly different type of game from Mario Kart, especially if they expand the single player mode or add a co-op mode.
Amazing idea. And Tingle can take off his MI-style face mask to reveal Ankle!...who then does the same to reveal Knuckle...then it turns out to be David Jr....and finally it turns out it was Tingle all along...!
Oh, I see - I missed that, sorry. Thanks all. I agree with you Xun that a new IP would be ideal considering there are plenty of Zelda-related games. (Well, I would be delighted to see a Sheik game but...I know a new IP would be something to not be missed since Aonuma hasn't created one since Marvelous: Another Treasure Island.)
If it's Metroid Prime, I would recommend so as that has a serial storyline. Not super story heavy per se though.
In terms of things announced so far, yeah. But I'm waiting for E3 to see if some of the games she cited are announced there as I believe Eurogamer corroborated or separately reported on some of the ones she discussed.
Hopefully it's talked about during E3.
#2DMetroid3DS
Fingers crossed!
I've long assumed the next Metroid will be a 2D game with a "New" Metroid sensibility to it, a la the New Super Mario series of games. So a Metroidvania, or perhaps even broken into level-based chunks, with some accessibility to it and maybe a reboot of the story in some way. I believe this could be a quality game if done right, but that it would turn off fans of the series to some degree. However, this assumption predates Nintendo breaking with established wisdom wildly with BOTW, so perhaps the idea of it being okay to get lost in a world will be considered for Metroid also.
I do think Retro making a 2D Metroid with Wise composing would be interesting. I would prefer another DK, but that is just my bias for DK platformers talking.
Jonneh3003
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As TheMoon said on the other page no not really. Federation Force did follow Prime 3's story pretty closely but there's nothing you really need to know. Basically
a side character from Metroid Prime Hunters seems to have brought back Metroids
Etrian Oddity
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What I wanna know is
where the fuck is Animal Crossing Switch?!
where the fuck is Animal Crossing Switch?!
Jonneh3003
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Holiday 2017!
Not75Drops
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I wonder how EPD 4 would fare working on a 2D Metroid game.
TheMoon
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it's called E3.
tonyh24613
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They just released an expansion pack for New Leaf, I doubt we'll see AC Switch this year. Maybe Summer 2018 after AC mobile in late 2017.
astrogamer
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Alright I guess though none have worked on a Metroid game at all. 2D Mario, Pikmin and new IP probably take precedence over reworking old Nintendo IP though
Hiroyuki Kimura (EAD 4's producer) worked on both Metroid II and Super Metroid. Plus, now that SPD merged with EAD to form EPD, you could have other Metroid veterans in this group.
Dark Cloud
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It's good he's not in the mix. I love Miyamoto, but he's done more harm than good I feel. He's been out of the loop for awhile now.
100%. Don't be surprised if it's revealed at E3.
That's the problem because I was talking about Paper Mario and Miyamoto wanted simplified characters only from the Mario universe. He basically wanted New Paper Mario. Koizumi likes more story in Mario. I want Paper Mario to go back to what it was with unique NPCs.
It could be anything. He doesn't have to work with Nintendo.
Someone on here mention that Retro's next game is indeed Donkey Kong and Wise is suppose to be on board with the project. Of course take with a grain of salt.
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I'd be extremely disappointed if it were true.
I feel like it might be the case. Which then I would be in the same boat as you since I don't care for Donkey Kong and wanted to say them tackle something else. A new IP or another Nintendo Franchise.
The salt gonna be good tho if it does happen.
Dark Cloud
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Unless Retro is making 3D DK there's no way they're making a 2D DK after the reception of TF.
I'm always disappointed when Retro doesn't (or isn't allowed to?) make a new IP. Unless their new ideas or concept art must have been truly awful and constantly rejected.
Skittzo0413
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I thought DKC Returns and TF were both projects they chose.
I forgot about that post. I don't think the poster specified if it was 2D or 3D. And, as you indicated, a BOTW-style freshly-bomb mined chunk of rock salt is to be taken with any Nintendo game leak rumor.
Reception as in post-news or as in reviews? I hope Nintendo does not take very much from either. It would be sad to go from all 2D sidescrollers to none, and I understand that is unlikely but I don't want a return to the nearly-sidescroller-less N64 era. Regardless, DKC: TF is one of the best 2D platformers of all time, so I hope Nintendo plans to make more 2D DK games and knows their value and will try to get gamers to give it a shot. DKCR and DKCR 3D were hits and many ordinarily successful franchises woefully under-performed on Wii U so I hope they keep that in mind. I would be totally up for a 3D DK as well, though.
Yes, you're right. They were.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...ey_kong_over_metroid_as_its_first_wii_u_title
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._returns_we_had_a_lot_of_gas_left_in_the_tank
This is the quote :
I can't imagine a 2D DK would be that long to develop if he said it's still a while.
Dark Cloud
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Omg...now I'm afraid what might happen at E3. You know how people will react negatively to this.
If it's taking a while then it has to be 3D DK. I don't know what else is DK related Nintendo has. Diddy Kong Racing? That wouldn't take so long to make.
Skittzo0413
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... open world Diddy Kong Racing maybe? Nintendo finally putting out a GTA style game with Diddy Kong?
Also this. Especially about Retro, I can't remember the last time someone had an accurate rumor about them.
TheMoon
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rule of thumb: do not believe anything, assume all rumors are bullshit because they pretty much always are.
Is EvB from GAF? Where is that from, I've never heard of EvB. I don't not believe them, though, I do think Retro do have their hands in something DKC related.
They'll be fine if Reggie's comment holds true and they decide to reveal a new Metroid title at E3. If not.....well. Also if nothing by Retro is shown at the event then people would definitely be antsy.
Yeah I'm not putting stock into this, as
all know even if an "insider" has a somewhat good track record they could still be wrong, extreme at times as well.
Either way it serves as a good checklist or bingo card.
Yeah they are a gaffer. Leaked a couple things related to Xbox related things.
Dark Cloud
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I expect Retro and Metroid at E3. I was going to ask you what has this EvB person leaked in the past because I don't know their credentials.
Diddy popping people with his peanut guns and running over people in the city with a banana car would be funny.
Alex_Mexico
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I'm dying to know what Retro has been working on for 3 years now!
For all the leaks Nintendo keeps failing to stop from happening the one leak I'm most excited to know about is the one they've kept secure the most; Retro Studio's next game.
My brain says it's a new IP and my heart says its a new 3D Metroid. But it'll probably be neither and we'll get a DKCR3 instead
For all the leaks Nintendo keeps failing to stop from happening the one leak I'm most excited to know about is the one they've kept secure the most; Retro Studio's next game.
My brain says it's a new IP and my heart says its a new 3D Metroid. But it'll probably be neither and we'll get a DKCR3 instead
I guess he also accidentally leaked that David Wise was going to be in Snake Pass. I'm not really familiar with this guy compare to someone like shinobi.
If a new Metroid is announced and it's not a traditional 2D one but a 3D I'm thinking that Nintendo would likely outsource it to another developer. Unless it is a super secret project that their team in Japan is working on.
IronicSonic
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I want a new Retro's DK game and a collection with 2 previous titles. E3 here we go!
astrogamer
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Doesn't seem like Kimura is the group manager anymore. On Tank Troopers and MK8D, he's list as Progress Management. If I'm remembering correctly, a good chunk of Metroid developers are involved with Nintendo's internal development too
Skittzo0413
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Thinking about EvB's quote again it could be something as simple as a DKC Returns/TF Switch port. Which wouldn't be the game they've been working on for 3 years but more of a side project.
I could still see Retro having 2 games in the pipeline, think about it, DKC:TF was finished in 2013, that's 4 years ago now.
Let's say they got straight to work on the 3rd DKC game which could have been completed at some point early last year, they could have a separate smaller team go off and begin work on another project (MP4 lets say) around 2015 and dev time ramped up last year.
It's certainly possible right, they are big enough and a DKC game isn't too taxing for them like a big 3D would be
Let's say they got straight to work on the 3rd DKC game which could have been completed at some point early last year, they could have a separate smaller team go off and begin work on another project (MP4 lets say) around 2015 and dev time ramped up last year.
It's certainly possible right, they are big enough and a DKC game isn't too taxing for them like a big 3D would be
Not to be rude in any way, but who cares how people react at E3 to anything? Perhaps only insofar as it might spell problems for Nintendo, but, surely the games already announced for this year will be significant enough sales drivers to offset a couple gaffes?
I don't think it is necessarily true that taking a while means it has to be 3D DK. DKC: TF took a few years for example. Diddy Kong Racing could take just as long as a 3D DK, as could a 2D game, depending what happens in development. Mario Kart for example takes some years to make. Plus, there are any number of theoretical DK-adjacent games possible. Though, I would sort of assume based on their wording that the poster meant a mainline DK game, so probably 2D DK, though possibly 3D.
Whoa, that would be... strange. I just want a DKR. I don't think the hub should be too big, but, maybe I am just burned out on the size of a game like BOTW. I guess I want it however they want to make it, provided it is not a bizarre violent take on DKR, though I'm sure that's not what you meant. I think a mix of 3D platforming and racing would be a wonderful blend of DKR and a 3D take on DK. You could even have some 2D levels in there. Just make it the "best of all worlds" DK game. Now I am salivating.
FWIW, all Reggie indicated was that a year from ... early this year? when did he say this, February maybe? that at that point, to revisit the question regarding requested projects like Metroid. So it may be announced at E3 or it may be after E3 and later in the year. Though, I agree people will be very antsy if nothing is shown by Retro at E3 (I imagine something surely will be) or if say Retro announces something non-Metroid that doesn't have a Western game feel to it and Metroid isn't announced there either.
A DKR sequel would make me very pleased as well.
Do you expect them together, though? I think it's entirely possible Metroid will be developed by a different party, perhaps NLG or internally.
I'm dying to know what Retro has been working on for 3 years now!
For all the leaks Nintendo keeps failing to stop from happening the one leak I'm most excited to know about is the one they've kept secure the most; Retro Studio's next game.
My brain says it's a new IP and my heart says its a new 3D Metroid. But it'll probably be neither and we'll get a DKCR3 instead
You made a typo here and it's my duty as a fellow GAFer to point it out. You typed a frowny face when you meant a smiley one. It is easy to do when the parenthetical keys are next to each other.
I agree a 3D Metroid would be less likely to be internally developed by NCL. I do think a 2D one could be outsourced to Retro or NLG, or be internally developed. Since NCL has never solely made a 3D Metroid I wonder if it could be a collaboration with Platinum coming off of their work together on SF0.
A collection would be great. Too many people missed out on TF. Plus, it would be nice to have an option to play DKCR in 60 fps with non-motion controls on a Nintendo console.
Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. If it's a port, though, why have Retro do it directly? Seems like a job for Tantalus (I'd have said Monster Games but it seems they're not working with Nintendo at the moment). I see your point, though. (Though I still get the "sense" from that poster that they meant a new, mainline game. But I realize that's speculation on my part.)
I think you're right that it's entirely possible, though I think if there are two projects a port being one of them is likelier unfortunately (IMO, just armchair quarterbacking here) than both being new games. In the past IIRC Retro has been said to have the capacity to do two projects but I was under the impression that has only come to fruition as of yet insofar as they worked on DKC while assisting on MK. I could be mistaken though, perhaps the comments about them working on two projects only came after that collaboration occurred. I did think those comments were about two fully fledged projects though if it was from someone at NCL those kinds of nuances can be lost in translation easily. Hmm, I guess I am just trying not to get my hopes up too much here that they could be working on two full projects. About DK though, I agree a 3D game (be it Metroid or DK or something else) would likely take more development time than 2D - especially come to think of it since they have the 2D DK HD engine all set and realistic fur tech and the like - but as I mentioned above, unusual bumps in the road or longer project times can occur in any kind of game development so my impression is that a 2D platformer could end up taking as long as any kind of game. It's fun to speculate about this stuff... I'm very curious what they are working on. Could be entirely a new IP as at least one of their projects. (I really want that rumored B-listers-focused DKR sequel, though!)
As far as what you said maxcriden....reason why I feel strongly about Metroid being shown at E3 is that it feels proper in a sense that it would be shown there. They have directs throughout the year but I feel that would be big thing for a proper return to Metroid shown at E3. Plus weren't all the games Prime and after shown at E3? Just sayin.
I could also do agree with you that we could see them do a similiar situation like with Star Fox and have Platinum take a hand at Metroid.
I know I keep babbling on about Metroid this and that but since E3 is so close I just can help it.
I could also do agree with you that we could see them do a similiar situation like with Star Fox and have Platinum take a hand at Metroid.
I know I keep babbling on about Metroid this and that but since E3 is so close I just can help it.
Skittzo0413
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Ha I was only kinda half serious about an open world DKR anyway, and yeah I wasn't picturing GTA-like violence, more GTA-like in the sense that Lego City Undercover is GTA-like. An open world game with a heavy focus on driving/racing. It would be a very interesting project and get a lot of attention.
Maybe it takes place in New Donk City... :O
The Horror the horror
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Do people really want Retro to be a Donkey Kong factory?
Nintendo should be urging them to make something new, different. Developing one throwback platformer after the next is beneath them considering the breadth of their earlier work.
Nintendo should be urging them to make something new, different. Developing one throwback platformer after the next is beneath them considering the breadth of their earlier work.
TheMoon
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TheDinoman
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Nintendo needs to let Donkey Kong go.
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