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[ManaByte]

Maybe. We really don't know how that all transpired though. Could be Sony threw it on the negotiating table while working out the deal for the movie Spider-Man to come to the MCU. Could be entirely unrelated. It is all speculation either way. I just thinking the timing of it all was strange.

Sony Pictures and SCEA/SIE are completely 100% separate.

Before SCEA bought Sony Online Entertainment, SOE (989 Studios/Verant Interactive) was owned by Sony Pictures. While they were under Sony Pictures they were treated like a normal 3rd party. Not a 1st or 2nd party, a 3rd party. While 1st party studios were given PS3 devkits right away, 3rd parties (like SOE) would have to apply for them and wait their turn. That's how separate the movie and games divisions are within Sony. So the movie division doing something doesn't affect the games side at all.

The games side will obviously do things to cash in on stuff the movie side is doing, like release an Uncharted remastered collection in 2022 to tie-in to the movie release or do a new Twisted Metal for that TV series or re-release The Last of Us 1 & 2 in a collection to coincide with the HBO series, but their not tied to anything Sony Pictures does as the two divisions are completely separate.

 

[LordCBH]

I mean yeah? That was my expectation considering Microsoft literally bought the publisher. Given the success from Spiderman, I’m 100% positive disney has no issues with it being exclusive to one platform or the other.

 

[Caio]

I just hope it will be a very good Game.

 

[ShadowNate]

I'm not even sure I'll be interested in it. Let's see some gameplay first.

 

[Topher]

Sony Pictures and SCEA/SIE are completely 100% separate.

Before SCEA bought Sony Online Entertainment, SOE (989 Studios/Verant Interactive) was owned by Sony Pictures. While they were under Sony Pictures they were treated like a normal 3rd party. Not a 1st or 2nd party, a 3rd party. While 1st party studios were given PS3 devkits right away, 3rd parties (like SOE) would have to apply for them and wait their turn. That's how separate the movie and games divisions are within Sony. So the movie division doing something doesn't affect the games side at all.

The games side will obviously do things to cash in on stuff the movie side is doing, like release an Uncharted remastered collection in 2022 to tie-in to the movie release or do a new Twisted Metal for that TV series or re-release The Last of Us 1 & 2 in a collection to coincide with the HBO series, but their not tied to anything Sony Pictures does as the two divisions are completely separate.

Then they are not "completely 100% separate" at all.

Production credits for The Last of Us on HBO
Naughty Dog
PlayStation Productions
Sony Pictures Television

The Last of Us (TV Series 2023– ) - Company credits - IMDb

The Last of Us (TV Series 2023– ) - Movies, TV, Celebs, and more...

www.imdb.com

And yeah, they've been highly segmented in the past, but that doesn't mean they are not seeing ways to rectify those mistakes.

 

[ManaByte]

Then they are not "completely 100% separate" at all.

Thank you for informing me about the company I worked for and how they operated.

 

[Banjo64]

And Disney won't want to exclude the dominant platform. Xbox sales pale in comparison. The uncharted crowd is on PlayStation and tomb raider sells way more. Xbox sales won't do it justice and I doubt pc will pick up the slack.

Microsoft can say ‘here’s a significant chunk of cash and we will put this game on Game Pass day one where 25-30 million players will be exposed to the Indiana Jones universe immediately’ - I’m sure that will be valued much more than 5-10 million sales.

 

[Topher]

Thank you for informing me about the company I worked for and how they operated.

 

[M1chl]

Who cares, GamePass day one.

 

[GeorgPrime]

How old are you? Uncharted is a clone of Indiana Jones...

Iam talking gameplay wise. The best Indiana Jones games are still "Point & Click Adventures" and hard to beat

 

[ManaByte]

You don't get it. I was speaking from first-hand experience of how separate the two are. But whatever.

 

[Bryank75]

I've got PC ports to stop.... duty calls!

 

[Topher]

You don't get it. I was speaking from first-hand experience of how separate the two are. But whatever.

Are you the guy making the deals?

 

[Dick Jones]

I've got PC ports to stop.... duty calls!

 

[Stuart360]

I actually thought this would be one of the few new Bethesda games that would be multiplatform. I honestly thught that Disney wouldnt give up the license without a stipulation that the game would have to be on everything, especially with the new film coming up.
I suppose thinking about it, Disney have no problem with Spiderman and Wolverine being Playstation exclusive.

 

[PJX]

I actually thought this would be one of the few new Bethesda games that would be multiplatform. I honestly thught that Disney wouldnt give up the license without a stipulation that the game would have to be on everything, especially with the new film coming up.
I suppose thinking about it, Disney have no problem with Spiderman and Wolverine being Playstation exclusive.

Not sure how you come to that conclusion when Disney has been doing exclusive game licensing deals for decades.

 

[zaanan]

Are you the guy making the deals?

No, he said “worked” not “works,” and he’s obviously butthurt about it

 

[ManaByte]

No, he said “worked” not “works,” and he’s obviously butthurt about it

SOE no longer exists. The only thing I'm "butthurt" about is fanboys on a video game forum on the internet who think they know more about how their favorite company operates than people who are or were actually employed by that company.

 

[Punished Miku]

Microsoft can say ‘here’s a significant chunk of cash and we will put this game on Game Pass day one where 25-30 million players will be exposed to the Indiana Jones universe immediately’ - I’m sure that will be valued much more than 5-10 million sales.

Exactly.

 

[Hendrick's]

SOE no longer exists. The only thing I'm "butthurt" about is fanboys on a video game forum on the internet who think they know more about how their favorite company operates than people who are or were actually employed by that company.

Luckily, we have you here to enlighten us.

 

[Punished Miku]

You don't get it. I was speaking from first-hand experience of how separate the two are. But whatever.

That's cool that you worked there. I'm genuinely interested in hearing any insight you may have.

But it's also true that things seem to be changing quite a bit recently. Sony games in the process of becoming movies that we currently know about:

• Uncharted
• Ghost of Tsushima
• The Last of Us
• Horizon
• Spider Man
• Ratchet and Clank

Uncharted Movie and Last of Us Series 'Just the Beginning' of Non-Gaming PlayStation Projects - IGN

The Uncharted movie and The Last of Us series are "just the beginning" of Sony's efforts to expand into new media, according to PlayStation boss Jim Ryan.

www.ign.com

"Towards the end of last year, Sony Pictures Chairman and CEO Tony Vinciquerra revealed that his studio had been actively developing 10 video game adaptations, including seven TV shows and three movies based on PlayStation properties, though he didn't specify whether the Uncharted movie and The Last of Us TV series were included in that count."

 

[Fess]

How old are you? Uncharted is a clone of Indiana Jones...

Yup. And so is Tomb Raider. Rick Dangerous. Spelunky. La-Mulana. Indy is a true icon ️

 

[Jigsaah]

Too early to careeeeeee

 

[Clear]

Yup. And so is Tomb Raider. Rick Dangerous. Spelunky. La-Mulana. Indy is a true icon ️

Was a true icon. How many progressively weaker sequels does it take before you have to admit that the IP isn't what it once was?

 

[NeonDelta]

why wouldnt it be?

 

[wolffy71]

So normally I not one of these special people who think MS games are gonna be on other consoles in the future... but theres a real possibility this game has been in the works for a bit and could have some contracts they will obliged to honor. Theres no telling what Lucas arts could have wanted, audience wise.

 

[ManaByte]

=

why wouldnt it be?

Something something money on the table.

 

[Fess]

I've got PC ports to stop.... duty calls!

I really admire your honesty but I have to admit that I hope you fail miserably with your quest

 

[Captain Toad]

Upcoming Ghost of Tsushima game will be a PlayStation exclusive. Upcoming Mario game will be a Nintendo exclusive.

 

[Fess]

Was a true icon. How many progressively weaker sequels does it take before you have to admit that the IP isn't what it once was?

Never gonna happen, sorry! One of my fav movie heroes ever

I’m afraid of what they’ll do this time though. Can Machinegames do other stuff than first person shooters? I don’t play first person shooters…

 

[EverydayBeast]

Indy exclusive helps M$.

 

[Esppiral]

Indiana Jones and the emperor's tomb is an action adventure game with platforming, shooting, cinematics and puzzles, reminds you of something?
Edit, forgot to quote and from mobile is a pain to add them. Arghh

 

[Mr.ODST]

SOE no longer exists. The only thing I'm "butthurt" about is fanboys on a video game forum on the internet who think they know more about how their favorite company operates than people who are or were actually employed by that company.

ethomaz Might be able to give you some tips on that

Jokes aside, will be interesting to see how many licenses Disney hands out for exclusivity, no doubt Microsoft might get a few and Sony get more.

Will be interesting to see how indie plays.

 

[Genx3]

Nope and we still don’t know it. Could be a MLB scenario, Disney can force Machine Games to make a PS5 port. Could be a Wolverine scenario, Disney can be okay with a XSX, PC, Xbox Cloud release.

When did Wolverine get announced as an exclusive??

All Marvel characters now belong to Disney. Same with Indy.

The only thing that is safe to assume is that both Indy and Wolverine are likely exclusives for their platforms.

 

[Genx3]

Indiana Jones and the emperor's tomb is an action adventure game with platforming, shooting, cinematics and puzzles, reminds you of something?
Edit, forgot to quote and from mobile is a pain to add them. Arghh

Yes!
Reminds me of Tomb Raider that is a take on Indiana Jones which then reminds me of Uncharted which is a take on Tomb Raider.

 

[PJX]

Indy exclusive helps M$.

Are you like 9 years old?

 

[zaanan]

SOE no longer exists. The only thing I'm "butthurt" about is fanboys on a video game forum on the internet who think they know more about how their favorite company operates than people who are or were actually employed by that company.

I’m sorry, did I miss something? Based on your post history, when I see your usename, I immediately think, MS fanboi. And I can now only imagine, it has something to do with you not being offered a job after the reorg. Am I wrong?

 

[ManaByte]

I’m sorry, did I miss something? Based on your post history, when I see your usename, I immediately think, MS fanboi. And I can now only imagine, it has something to do with you not being offered a job after the reorg. Am I wrong?

You are so wrong you have no idea.

I left long before SCEA sold SOE off to the Russians.

 

[Topher]

SOE no longer exists. The only thing I'm "butthurt" about is fanboys on a video game forum on the internet who think they know more about how their favorite company operates than people who are or were actually employed by that company.

Not sure why you have a hard time comprehending my repeated use of the word "speculation". Frankly, so far your status as a former SOE employee has provided no more insight than a simple google search would provide. So if it makes you feel better to call others "fanboys" for engaging in a conversation and not bowing down to your point of view then that's just you being you.

 

[Gavon West]

They didn’t allow it they were contractually obliged to deliver them.

Same rules will apply to Indiana Jones. So, what does the contract say? I don’t know, you don’t know and neither does the fake insider whose tweet started this thread.

Jesus. The grieving process takes a while for some. Okay, my dude. You keep believing that. Good luck

 

[ManaByte]

Not sure why you have a hard time comprehending my repeated use of the word "speculation". Frankly, so far your status as a former SOE employee has provided no more insight than a simple google search would provide. So if it makes you feel better to call others "fanboys" for engaging in a conversation and not bowing down to your point of view then that's just you being you.

Let me give you an example how separate they were. Prior to SOE becoming an LLC under SCEA I remember there being talk and plans to put DCEO on BOTH the PS3 and 360. You would've had a "Sony" company publishing a 360 game. Imagine the meltdowns. SCEA took over in 2006 and those plans were scrapped until SOE was sold to the Russians and they ported the game to both the PS4 and Xbox One.

 

[ReBurn]

SOE no longer exists. The only thing I'm "butthurt" about is fanboys on a video game forum on the internet who think they know more about how their favorite company operates than people who are or were actually employed by that company.

Wasn't SOE spun off in like 2015? I get what you're saying but its also possible that since that time things don't work the same way any more.

 

[Topher]

Let me give you an example how separate they were. Prior to SOE becoming an LLC under SCEA I remember there being talk and plans to put DCEO on BOTH the PS3 and 360. You would've had a "Sony" company publishing a 360 game. Imagine the meltdowns. SCEA took over in 2006 and those plans were scrapped until SOE was sold to the Russians and they ported the game to both the PS4 and Xbox One.

Great. Next time we have a discussion about SOE then I'll be sure and ping you.

Wasn't SOE spun off in like 2015? I get what you're saying but its also possible that since that time things don't work the same way any more.

 

[Thirty7ven]

I’m sure there has to be some give, it’s how business works. Sony are getting spider man and now wolverine as exclusives. Microsoft will be absolutely knocking on Disneys door with the WTF about us convo

Lmao, business absolutely does not work like that. My god, you a child or something?

 

[Bryank75]

Will Shia La Beaueouf be in it?

He was great in Transformers. Is he still dating that Megan Fox?

 

[ManaByte]

Will Shia La Beaueouf be in it?

Dude nuked his career by pissing off Spielberg.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Thank you for informing me about the company I worked for and how they operated.

This explains a lot, you got janitor itk vibes all over you.

 

[Banjo64]

Dude nuked his career by pissing off Spielberg.

I don’t know, he will not divide us was pure comedy genious.

 

[ManaByte]

This explains a lot, you got janitor itk vibes all over you.

I don’t know, he will not divide us was pure comedy genious.

The best part was his complete inability to hide from 4Chan.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

This can't be a sure thing just yet. We will have to wait and see on it.

Chances are high it will be, but due to us not knowing what kind of deal or arrangement was worked out between them, we can't be entirely certain of anything.