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[TheInfamousKira]

I'll still get it. I never played the first 3, but started and got far into Prime Remastered. Loving it. Music has been really good, so far, too. I miss games with engaging soundtracks. Also, slightly off topic, but I wish SquareEnix would stop putting the fucking violin in every major title they come up with. Try some variation. I kept hearing it from XIII till now.

Oh, fuck yeah, I'm thinking of finally getting a Switch just because of it. It was more snark regarding when this thing began development versus when we'll be watching the end credits. Speaking of Square, a couple of tie in animes and a warp strike and this thing could be Final Nukem Hearts Threefteen.

 

[jorgejjvr]

I'm losing faith in humanity everytime shit like this happens and when "completely unbiased" Nintendo fanboys at "Game Awards" forcing completely undeserved awards on games, which have no business having them at all.

You okay there bud?

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Oh, fuck yeah, I'm thinking of finally getting a Switch just because of it. It was more snark regarding when this thing began development versus when we'll be watching the end credits. Speaking of Square, a couple of tie in animes and a warp strike and this thing could be Final Nukem Hearts Threefteen.

Fucking-A!

 

[Germuso]

Retro lost their touch.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Retro lost their touch.

It comes out next year. Polish is one of the final things in game development if I am right?

 

[Agent_4Seven]

You okay there bud?

Perfectly fine (b^__^)b

I guess I should've been more clear. I've nothing against Tears of the Kingdom, but it's as far away from GOTY and being better than some of the next gen games, as Planet 9 from Earth right now. I wish I lived in the universe, where Metroid was more successful in terms of sales and popularity, was more recognized, appreciated and awarded instead of some other Nintendo games which again - don't deserve it at all.

 

[Astral Dog]

I'm excited for Prime 4 as much as anyone else, but was a bit surprised that it looks almost identical to the first Prime game (which came out in 2002 lol, not on the Wii U even, but the Gamecube...) , like I almost thought it was the first prime game. But with the same developers behind it as the original 3 games we can trust it will play and feel like metroid prime and that's a good thing. The only gripe I've ever had with the Prime series was the annoying music that plays during enemy encounters. It doesn't get you fired up, it's just plain annoying. And the fact that enemies return as soon as you leave and retu1rn to the same area only makes it worse. So I was disappointed that the very same annoying music has returned in Prime 4.. Good grief make something that sounds better than someone mashing an electric keyboard. Ugh...

This i don't get, are you talking about the original Prime, or the remaster?

If its the original, you need to get your eyes checked because thats crazy, the jump in tech from Prime 1 to 4 is massive.of course counting that MP was a tech marvel at the time

if you mean the 'remaster' don't forget it was not a simple remaster with higher resolution and updated textures, even though it had the same gameplay Metroid Prime HD is closer to an actual Remake,fully upgraded geometry, character models, textures and lightning,
its not an insult to claim Prime 4 looks like the remaster of Prime 1 on the same hardware, they did a great job on both

 

[HofT]

It's better than that generation, but at the same time does it look much better than this for being 12 years later. Double the frame rate sure. But the MP4 trailer looks entirely like it's running on Switch which is why I still hope they really make it look great on Switch 2 as a showcase launch title.

For some reason, I always think Halo 4 released on xbone instead of the 360

 

[Fbh]

Looking forward to the game but that was a pretty unexciting trailer.

This would have worked well as a teaser trailer to accompany the reveal of the game. But after 7 years I was expecting it to resurface with a more in depth trailer showing some new and exciting gameplay and mechanics

 

[Agent_4Seven]

But after 7 years I was expecting it to resurface with a more in depth trailer showing some new and exciting gameplay and mechanics

Next year and before release we'll get plenty of that in dedicated direct. But I doubt it'll be much different than other Prime games in terms of core mechanics and gameplay loop, but we'll see.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

Did anyone here enjoy Prime 3 at all? I always thought it was seen as a bit of a black sheep. People said it was more linear?

i played it a looong time after prime 1 & 2 (so cant really do a direct comparison), but enjoyed it--mostly the second half of the game or so.

first couple hours are the worst... lots of cutscenes with these lame new supernatural characters, budget space marines, wannabe-halo vibe... but eventually the game calms its tits and settles back down into the classic prime vibe (isolation, exploration, scanning, etc.). i dont like motion controls but enjoyed them here. there are some cool environments.

theres a dead space marines ship floating in space, and you can explore it to unlock secrets or something. most of the ship is inaccessible at first, but over time you can explore more and more of it. i enjoyed that.

played from a wii disc on the wii u, if that matters.

 

[MagnesD3]

Exactly. Bog standard for a Prime game is gonna be incredible.

I see a great game and 2 good ones, i dont want just good for this one.

 

[Varteras]

It comes out next year. Polish is one of the final things in game development if I am right?

We always ignore the Polish until the very end

 

[nial]

Retro lost their touch.

Other AAA studios would get extremely trashed without any remorse here on GAF if this is what they showed after 5.5 years in development, and more than a decade after their last new game.
What in the world happened with Retro?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

That ship design is awful. It's like a Burger King toy.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

I'll be honest, the Prime games never vibed with me, I vastly prefer 2D Metroid, but I'll give it a try again since Metroid games only come around so often. The trailer showed literally all of the things you'd expect from a Prime game, shooting, ball morphing, scanning shit (the worst part IMO). None of it looked innovative or all that exciting, but I am happy that people that enjoy the Prime series are getting something. Probably similar to how they felt when we got Dread a few years ago and I was basically bouncing off of the walls with excitement.

See Dread gameplay reveal trailer was a lot more hype than this because it was graphically very impressive for a 2d Metroid and showed some cool new features with the EMMI ...Prime 4 had none of that going for it ..very strange and a similar inability to "read the room" as Halo Infinite when MS showed that game for the first time.

 

[tommib]

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

If Nintendo doesn't give us MP2 and MP3 remasters before MP4 releases, then they are truly DICKS.

Well they havnt given us Galaxy 2 and oh yeah, when they gave us Galaxy 1/Sunshine/Mario 64 they couldn't be bothered to give them all 60 fps so yes Nintendo knows how to be dicks

 

[Robb]

Well they havnt given us Galaxy 2 and oh yeah, when they gave us Galaxy 1/Sunshine/Mario 64 they couldn't be bothered to give them all 60 fps so yes Nintendo knows how to be dicks

Well there isn't really a direct sequel to Galaxy 2 releasing anytime soon, I assume.

I think Pikmin would be a better example, and they did release all prior games before Pikmin 4.

 

[Pejo]

See Dread gameplay reveal trailer was a lot more hype than this because it was graphically very impressive for a 2d Metroid and showed some cool new features with the EMMI ...Prime 4 had none of that going for it ..very strange and a similar inability to "read the room" as Halo Infinite when MS showed that game for the first time.

That's actually a pretty good comparison. I felt a similar tinge of "yep that's what I'd expect" and not much else from that reveal.

It's Nintendo at the end of the day, so I'm sure there will be some new gimmick, mechanic, or something they do to set the game apart from the previous entries, but they haven't shown it yet for whatever reason.

 

[Redneckerz]

I wasn't here in 2007 so not sure what your point is.

Exactly. Why didnt you complain then? The game looks ancient compared to Crysis or Stalker if we follow your logic.

Graphics are more than just pretty pictures.

MP3 was a massive disappointment too.

Both graphics and the linear gameplay especially after MP1 and MP2.

Universally regarded as a great game that due to fantastic artistic design and graphical choices still holds up today.

You say massive disappointment, hyperbole, i say in what regard? Come up with a actual argument instead of platitudes.

MP4 is not enough after 7 years of waiting. Looks underwhelming.

By what measurement? To which game are you comparing it?

And by which 2007 game are you comparing MP3?

It looks like Halo 4, which looks fine to me considering its 9 year old tech.

 

[Robb]

Not sure if this has been posted but seemingly Samus got to the new planet through a portal rather than her ship:

Also, there seems to be quite a time jump in this one. Pretty sure the original Metroid game was set in 20X5, Federation Force was 20X6, Super Metroid is 20X7 and this is apparently 20X9.

 

[Mozza]

It doesn't matter. Before BotW, Zelda was capped at like 13 mil. And that wasn't the norm. Now it's like what, 35 mil? I mean it's just ridiculous. And it's never been bundled. So past series sales really don't matter a whole lot.

I would say if Metroid Prime 4 is set up as the big flagship single-player launch game for Switch 2, past Metroid sales will be no indication at all of what the game could eventually sell.

And didn't Remaster sell over a million in 3 weeks? And it was a remaster. Who considers that lukewarm?

Like i said Metroid Prime 4 has the potential to sell the best numbers in the series, but it's not starting from a massive base, Metroid Prime Corruption on the Wii sold only 1.4 million copies, which on a system with a 100 million consoles out there, is pretty mediocre to say the least.

Not hating on the game, as I love the franchise, but this is getting nowhere near the sales some are suggesting, as i stated the recent remaster, which had a massive potential new audience on the Switch failed to ignite sales, not sure where you get the figure of 3 million in three weeks, it has only sold around a million copies, perhaps thats the issue here, we are imaging games are selling more than they actually are.

 

[Muddy]

Exactly. Bog standard for a Prime game is gonna be incredible.

It is 2024.

The standards are higher.

Noticed how each game review drops?

From 97, 92 then 90.

If MP4 is the same standard it will score even lower.

Nothing in the trailer says otherwise.

 

[Muddy]

Exactly. Why didnt you complain then? The game looks ancient compared to Crysis or Stalker if we follow your logic.

Graphics are more than just pretty pictures.

Universally regarded as a great game that due to fantastic artistic design and graphical choices still holds up today.

You say massive disappointment, hyperbole, i say in what regard? Come up with a actual argument instead of platitudes.

By what measurement? To which game are you comparing it?

And by which 2007 game are you comparing MP3?

It looks like Halo 4, which looks fine to me considering its 9 year old tech.

Are you serious?

You are expecting me to complain on a forum when I wasn't here in 2007.

MP4 looks like a turd in 2024.

The gameplay doesn't look any better from previous games released 2 decades ago.


Just facts.

 

[Robb]

It is 2024.

The standards are higher.

Are they? Metroid Prime Remastered released last year and has 94 using this same engine.

 

[Muddy]

Are they? Metroid Prime Remastered released last year and has 94 using this same engine.

Nostalgia hit from Nintendo. Reviewers love that. Like crack to Nintendo fans and reviewers.

Any other game from 'Not Nintendo' and it gets a low score for just having a fresh coat of paint.

I can give you numerous examples.

 

[Robb]

Nostalgia hit from Nintendo. Reviewers love that. Like crack to Nintendo fans and reviewers.

Any other game from 'Not Nintendo' and it gets a low score for just having a fresh coat of paint.

I can give you numerous examples.

I mean, that's your take. Another is that it's an amazing game that still holds up.

What is the competition? I played through Metroid Prime Remastered myself last year and it felt super fresh compared to what else releases these days. Feels like 90% of shooters today are fast paced, multiplayer, GAAS.

 

[Muddy]

I mean, that's your take. Another is that it's an amazing game that still holds up.

What is the competition? I played through Metroid Prime Remastered myself last year and it felt super fresh compared to what else releases these days. Feels like 90% of shooters today are fast paced, multiplayer, GAAS.

It didn't hold up.

MP1 was a chore to play again after so many years.

The backtracking alone wasn't something that belongs in a game this generation.

Especially with no fast travel.

It was acceptable in 2002.

 

[DelireMan7]

So... I have never played any of the Metroid Prime games but always wanted to because they looked sick at the time. (And I actually still want to play them)

But now I see this trailer and the gameplay looks... extremely dated and boring. Basically auto aim and enemy don't shoot at you and die quickly. Very static gameplay.
Maybe it get better later in the game (I assume this is the beginning areas).

So I am wondering, outside of nostalgia and love for the franchise, does it look real that exciting to some people ?

Maybe I was expecting something different.

 

[Robb]

It didn't hold up.

Agree to disagree I guess.

 

[MagiusNecros]

HUD UI looks like a big improvement IMO and you can see a lot more which is going to help a lot. Very similar to Halo 4 HUD IMO. People that say MP4 looks like garbage is baffling.

MP1 Remastered HUD

MP4 HUD

Halo 4

 

[Moonjt9]

Best announcement this year. Holy shit.

 

[Robb]

HUD UI looks like a big improvement IMO and you can see a lot more which is going to help a lot. Very similar to Halo 4 HUD IMO. People that say MP4 looks like garbage is baffling.

MP1 Remastered HUD

MP4 HUD

Halo 4

Hmm, no visors on the d-pad in MP4 huh? Didn't notice that initially.

 

[Trilobit]

You know what's even worse? That friggin TP enemy music. Those horrible reverb-less MIDI strings with the ungodly second intervals. And what's worse, it would always drown out whatever ambient music was playing in e.g. the dungeon.




Makes you wanna blow your brains out.

I had to rinse my ears with:


And it made me go:

We need a revisiting the Prime Trilogy thread

So many of us haven't played them all in all for so long

I've played them a couple of years ago. 1 was great, but very repetetive. 2 was more of the same. 3 felt very fresh and like it did stuff differently in a good way as it was more entertaining to play and had better variety.

 

[Pejo]

MP4 HUD

I mean it is better for sure than MP1 remastered but you used a dishonest crop in your example image. Here's the actual hud from the trailer:

Definitely better than past Prime games but still feels claustrophobic to me and the gun is too centered/eats too much screen space. I'll admit, I'm just being picky, for most people this is probably fine.

 

[The_Observer]

Honest question as I don't know anything about this series or Nintendo games in general so this might be the problem but why is this so popular? I watched this video and it looked like a poor man's Halo based on this.
I'm sure I'm missing something or is it mostly popular because this is a historic franchise?

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Honest question as I don't know anything about this series or Nintendo games in general so this might be the problem but why is this so popular? I watched this video and it looked like a poor man's Halo based on this.
I'm sure I'm missing something or is it mostly popular because this is a historic franchise?

Its not a shooter.

Its level design based game where you have to figure out how to progress each room you get into.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Honest question as I don't know anything about this series or Nintendo games in general so this might be the problem but why is this so popular? I watched this video and it looked like a poor man's Halo based on this.
I'm sure I'm missing something or is it mostly popular because this is a historic franchise?

First Person Metroidvania games on the scale of Metroid Prime are to be treasured. It's more about exploration and discovery as opposed to action and chaos.

 

[N0S]

Best announcement this year. Holy shit.

It was announced 7 years ago

 

[The_Observer]

Its not a shooter.

Its level design based game where you have to figure out how to progress each room you get into.

First Person Metroidvania games on the scale of Metroid Prime are to be treasured. It's more about exploration and discovery as opposed to action and chaos.

Ah okay, that makes it clear. Thanks!

 

[Robb]

why is this so popular?

As some have said it's a first person Metroidvania. Big focus on puzzle solving, figuring out where to go, backtracking to past areas with new upgrades, etc.

It's definitely not close to Halo, although I get why it'd seem that way.

I have a hard time thinking of games to compare it to. Prey maybe? Definitely more Prey than Halo at least.

 

[GymWolf]

like it or not this game will probably mop the floor with every other fps game that comes out at the time

Gunplay in the next doom is probably gonna run laps around metroid, let's be real.

 

[MagiusNecros]

As some have said it's a first person Metroidvania. Big focus on puzzle solving, figuring out where to go, backtracking to past areas with new upgrades, etc.

It's definitely not close to Halo, although I get why it'd seem that way.

I have a hard time thinking of games to compare it to. Prey maybe? Definitely more Prey than Halo at least.

Journey to the Savage Planet(more humorous cheerful)

Powerslave/Exhumed

Prey(to a degree)

Alien: Isolation (exploration)

Doom 3 (bit linear though)

I think the best comparison is going to be Castlevania Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness or recently Control. Due to their Metroidvania nature and acquiring upgrades to access new areas.

I'd probably even put Selaco and Hedon Bloodrite up there even if they are more aligned towards more Action(Doom). Selaco though I feel is ultimately more focused on exploration once you get past the Action bits.

Deep Rock Galactic with the atmosphere, music and handcrafted cave levels also does wonders to give it that Metroid Prime feel I crave. It's been my Metroid fix for a few years.

I think if Federation Force stuck with the Prime artstyle instead of a chibi aesthetic and put on console vs the 3DS it would have done so much better because Fed Force is actually a really good game. 3DS does it a disservice IMO.

GymWolf Metroid has never been about Gunplay so that isn't relevant. The new Doom will probably unironically go from Arena Shooter to bigger Arena Shooter more then anything. Looks cool though.

 

[cireza]

Gunplay in the next doom is probably gonna run laps around metroid, let's be real.

Metroid are adventure/exploration games, not shooters.

 

[GymWolf]

Journey to the Savage Planet(more humorous cheerful)

Powerslave/Exhumed

Prey(to a degree)

Alien: Isolation (exploration)

Doom 3 (bit linear though)

I think the best comparison is going to be Castlevania Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness or recently Control. Due to their Metroidvania nature and acquiring upgrades to access new areas.

I'd probably even put Selaco and Hedon Bloodrite up there even if they are more aligned towards more Action(Doom). Selaco though I feel is ultimately more focused on exploration once you get past the Action bits.

Deep Rock Galactic with the atmosphere, music and handcrafted cave levels also does wonders to give it that Metroid Prime feel I crave. It's been my Metroid fix for a few years.

I think if Federation Force stuck with the Prime artstyle instead of a chibi aesthetic and put on console vs the 3DS it would have done so much better because Fed Force is actually a really good game. 3DS does it a disservice IMO.

GymWolf Metroid has never been about Gunplay so that isn't relevant. The new Doom will probably unironically go from Arena Shooter to bigger Arena Shooter more then anything. Looks cool though.

Then don't compare the game to other fps.

You still kill hundreds of enemies, let's not act like you fight 2 enemies every hour, of course quality gunplay count.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Then don't compare the game to other fps.

You still kill hundreds of enemies, let's not act like you fight 2 enemies every hour, of course quality gunplay count.

Quality gunplay in a game where you only use an arm cannon? Just isn't going to happen.

 

[GymWolf]

Metroid are adventure/exploration games, not shooters.

I wasn't the one comparing metroid to all the other fps.

 

[GymWolf]

Quality gunplay in a game where you only use an arm cannon? Just isn't going to happen.

If the quality of gunplay was only related to number of weapons you could be right, too bad gunplay is more than that.

 

[MagiusNecros]

I wasn't the one comparing metroid to all the other fps.

I wasn't the one bringing up gunplay. I was listing games that have similar gameplay and feel to Metroid Prime. It's a big distinction. I've never understood the term "gunplay". You'd have to explain it to me.

Sound design has always been fine in Metroid Prime if that's what you are getting at.

Praising Doom for gunplay is interesting given it has poor Ammo Economy.