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I missed this, there is no direct comparison to Z1 extreme handhelds but there was a video showing how they handle the game
Never bet against team greenSwitch 2 haters in shambles
Lego Star Wars 2 Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga Lego Indiana JonesIts clearly not. This game is already running on the lowest setting, removing rt would not have solve it. Steamdeck is beyond fixable for this game. We kno that steamdeck is a bit below ps4 in terms of performance. Same with switch 2 which docked is a bit below series s but often can result into better IQ. This makes switch 2 docked a generation ahead. Portable, its still above ps4 pro. We know that by games like cyberpunk, apex legend, the new final fantasy, sf6. Its already a done deal. Steamdeck isnt relevant anymore, let it go.
RDNA2 is incredibly bad at RT so a game using a RTGI solution immediately impacts performance on the Steam Deck by a lot. We have tons of benchmarks on PC to know this. We also have enough raster comparisons to know that the Deck and Switch 2 are close to each other, some you even mentioned like Cyberpunk, and Street Fighter 6, both of which perform better/similar on the Deck vs the Switch 2 (although the difference isn't much). Just refer to the extensive coverage on Cyberpunk 2077 done by DF on the matter. Hogwarts Legacy is another example, it is still using the PS4 code on the Switch 2 and needs loading to get into Hogwarts Castle while the Deck has none of those issues. I'm not even sure why you bring up the new FF either, it runs over 40fps easily on the Deck.
I've read this a lot regarding a lot of Switch 2 port, but I don't understand the point: DLSS is implemented in the hardware/OS/whatever, unlike FSR, and is part of the tools people use to make great looking ports (and has a power cost, so it's definitly not like FSR).
Wat
I understand your point and you are right.
Obviously you didn't watch the DF video, using the exact same settings the Deck outperforms the Switch 2 using DLSS. Visually they are the roughly the same (native TAA vs DLSS upscaling) but the Deck is pushing more pixels and drops less frames:
SF6 is a locked 60fps on deck as well and uses higher graphical settings as the PS4 at native 720p, meanwhile the Switch 2 is upscaling to 720p from 360p and has removed AO, removed lighting, and removed volumetrics in portable play:
Sure, not a good port as it destroys your narrative.
It can sometimes offer similar quality to the Series S because of DLSS, not because the GPU is as powerful. Same as the Steam Deck can leverage something like XeSS. And we are talking about portable play here, where both the Steam Deck and Switch 2 are slower than the base PS4 in terms of GPU compute.
"It seems to be", just like Cyberpunk and Hogwarts were totally much better as well right? You claimed it was better but are now back tracking again. The game can be played at a locked 45fps on the Deck at native 720p.
Clearly not, as I've just proved.
Let what go? Pointing out you are clearly wrong with evidence?
This isn't for the console it's for Ubi. The game isn't that great on the console either but it's being hyped to hell regardless. The game has been significantly parred back. It's the usual "miracle port" narrative we saw even with Witcher on the switch when in reality its the worst place to play the game.
Not necessarily; for a lot of people, portability matters more than performance. Graphics aren't the be-all end-all of a game's value.
The original DF Outlaws review wasn't overwhelmingly positive, criticising elements of the gameplay and performance on the S. Prior Switch 2 ports covered by DF also brought up significant shortcomings, such as the last gen assets in Hogwarts or the poor performance in Phantom Liberty.
You say this like DF weren't singing praises for Witcher 3 on switch. That was my entire point regarding them and Witcher.
To be fair there are a lot of cutbacks on switch 2 compared the pc code(which steam I suppose uses it). It's more about better polished scaled port on the switch 2 than thanks to the nvidia black magic meme repeated irrationally in this thread.
Due to it not being windows or because the Steamdeck is old now and can't run it? The game runs at 60+ fps on a Legion Go at a higher res:
Well this game was performing pretty dang poorly up until recently so maybe From can do the same with Elden Ring. But it's From so I'm not holding out hope.
DF were more forgiving of poor performance and severely degraded visuals last generation, because they were impressed that games like the Witcher 3 could even run at all. This generation, they have not been as forgiving, and seem to expect decent IQ, a mostly locked 30 FPS experience and graphics that are competitive with other PC handhelds. That was my point.
From what I can see online, even on the Rog Ally in Turbo mode, you need FSR + frame generation to get the game to run at 30 FPS. Frame generation at such a low base framerate is unlikely to be a satisfying experience, and DLSS destroys FSR in image quality, even at significantly lower base resolutions.
Just like Outlaws, we haven't seen a final build at these conventions.
I always said DLSS would be the Switch 2's "secret sauce". It won't solve every issue but it can make a world of difference when properly used...and the best part? It's always learning and getting betterIt looks soooo clean on the Switch 2. Love DLSS.
Yep, the only PC handhelds worth a damn when it comes to RT are going to be the RDNA5 ones in a few years time. Maybe the MSI Claw 8 AI with the Intel chip is good (as it has actually decent RT), but I have no idea how it performs in this game.
Steam deck is weak as fuck compared to this I'm impressed
The witcher 3 ran at 30fps on a PS4 and PS4 Pro. The most powerful console of the time. Witcher 3 ran at 30fps on a Switch too. By those metrics it's a lot more impressive and they're being a lot more forgiving today vs it. they're out here comparing and praising a 30fps 540p buggy game to the weakest crap console today because the most powerful consoles today run this at 60fps with much better res/image quality and settings which they don't compare to for some reason. Instead they concentrate on the weakest Series S and docked, why? Last gen we didn't have a weak ass Series S to compare to unless the Wii U got a port of the same game.
What res and settings are you talking about for 30fps on an Ally with framegen? It runs a lot better than that. Especially on the equivalent 540p at "performance" level upscaling. The ally and Legion Go are not different in specs anyway so what do you mean by "even on". The Ally is weaker. Did you mean the Ally X? Looking at the Ally X framegen off and FSR Quality mode at 1080p:
Are you for real here?
800p with FSR3 ultra performance and frame gen? Hello??? Anybody home?
That's the definition of pixel soup. You specifically refer to switch 2 portable as 540p even though the output res is 1080p, so while we're at it, you're totally fine with legion go at 266p?
With frame gen?
Plugged, maximum power
Super loud fan
Probably an hand warmer
Super massive hitches when outside the room, frame pacing metrics must be atrocious and he never goes for a drive which is… for a reason, I tell ya.
That's no joke coming from you
Steam deck is weak as fuck compared to this I'm impressed
The pop in they said is when loading a save but they had it in other parts of the game too:
