Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

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So it's gone from he's Maga, to he is a right winger who has left wing beliefs and a trans boyfriend. Today, it's now he looks left wing, but it's Mossad and the Jews behind it because that really makes you not look like a fascist.
 

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Oh man I pray not. I love USA and being united is our greatest strength. Sadly we are very divided now.

Nigga, we ain't that divided. You can still roll through my crib, crack a drink, mash some buttons, and clown on Microsoft whenever you're in town. That's with my Xbox Series X clearly on display my boi.
 
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What's the difference between Charlie Kirk and you? The size of the audience.

The people celebrating the murder of CK are essentially advocating for the murder of every conservative/christian/white person.
They aren't necessarily willing to do it themselves.. but they would look the other way.
 
Compulsory voting. Making voting easy and even give people some little reward for it. Properly address the carrot and stick of voting so it doesn't all come down to scaring people half to death to make them line up to vote.
I think the opposite. It should NEVER be mandatory, because low or ZERO information voters are pointless. Easy access to voting makes the system MORE susceptible to last minute marketing blitzes with zero substance, empty promises, and smoke n' mirrors tactics, not to mention outright fraud and ballot box stuffing.

We need more rigorous voter registration, absolute identification, and more security in the chain of custody for votes. Using a blockchain through a digital platform might be a solution, but there will always be "convenient outages" to influence the result.
 
People get fired for expressing hatred all the time. That's not what cancel culture is. Cancel culture is disproportionate action taken against someone after a drastic shift of the Overton Window into uncharted and deranged territory, e.g., finding an old joke Tweet from ten years ago that was fine to express at the time, or going on a witch hunt because a guy went on a date that didn't work out, and destroying someone's life over it.

Publicly celebrating murder and political assassination of an American public figure is not part of the Overton Window. Employers are entirely within reason to fire their people over acting like a psychopath in public.
I do wonder if anything is actually being taught in schools, people being willfully ignorant, or brain damage for which you and others have to explain that to them

This is kindergarten stuff

Well, it used to be, at least 👀
 
3. Big Social has to identify the country of origin for anyone not from the US. Completely ban hostile nations from US social media entirely.
Been seeing this a lot on X. They should absolutely have the country of origin on every social media post, on every platform. In the few weeks before the Kirk assassination, the number of MAGA accounts that were exposed as being from India was crazy. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, I'd say at least half of the most vocal and argumentative "alt right" accounts on X are foreign agitators.
 
wether he died from sleep apnea, a piano fell on him, or some hateful deranged loon murdered him.


Absolutely not.

IF CK died by a stupid accident on the scenario and people laughed I'd call it disgusting, but I'd accept it as the consequence of the vile world we leave in, with social media amplifying the very worst of humankind.

CK being killed for political reasons is a completely different animal. People who support this are supporting terrorism. A fallen piano doesn't start a Civil War. A political side openly declaring that they want to kill the other side does.

There are groups who are actively working for that goal. They must be crushed or else this will not be an isolated incident.
 
Hmmm, I think celebrating Kirk's death is both distasteful and abhorrent, and that people losing their jobs over it can be reasonable. But the executive branch toying with the First Amendment is a problem. That said, I don't think we have much to worry about if that investigation ends up on Bondi's desk next to the Epstein files.

Yeah, we gotta push back on this "hate speech" rhetoric. Speech is generally a self-governed activity in society right now. Kind of like here on NeoGAF where members can be banned for what they say, but they are not going to jail for it. Works pretty well without government intervention, imo.
 
Yeah, we gotta push back on this "hate speech" rhetoric. Speech is generally a self-governed activity in society right now. Kind of like here on NeoGAF where members can be banned for what they say, but they are not going to jail for it. Works pretty well without government intervention, imo.
She already got heat from the right and left with that comment. No one wants that.
 
Yeah, we gotta push back on this "hate speech" rhetoric. Speech is generally a self-governed activity in society right now. Kind of like here on NeoGAF where members can be banned for what they say, but they are not going to jail for it. Works pretty well without government intervention, imo.
Speaking of that, the ban reasons on the bans page have been top-tier this past week. (y)
 
This thread is ridiculous. 100 pages repeating the same right-wing grifter bullshit that is already tearing so many decent countries and communities apart. There was no left wing conspiracy to get Kirk killed. Sometimes there's not much more to reality than a man who got rich off being a provocateur pissing off one person too much in the end. For a forum that's supposed to be free of politics talk, there sure is a lot of leniency whenever a right-wing shitstorm thread pops up. This forum is a joke.
It's a bit crazy how some people lack the bare minimum decency to not condone or downplay what was effectively a cold-blooded political assassination. No, you're not obligated to eulogize the victim or say RIP. However, at least have the common sense to not out yourself as a total psychopath.
 
Absolutely not.

IF CK died by a stupid accident on the scenario and people laughed I'd call it disgusting, but I'd accept it as the consequence of the vile world we leave in, with social media amplifying the very worst of humankind.

CK being killed for political reasons is a completely different animal. People who support this are supporting terrorism. A fallen piano doesn't start a Civil War. A political side openly declaring that they want to kill the other side does.

There are groups who are actively working for that goal. They must be crushed or else this will not be an isolated incident.
But Robinson wasn't working with anyone? From all accounts of people that were close to him they seem to all say was largely apolitical. It seems Robinson had anger issues (reports of exploding at dinner table with family talking about CK shortly before event).
I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't very familiar with CK other than viral clips of him saying transphobic/homophobic stuff and this was his deranged way of lashing out against a perceived injustice on his lifestyle and partner and social pressures from his environment. I feel like I'm victim blaming but my point is that it seems more personal than political to me.

Personally I think these people finding a haven like resetera where he can vent his frustrations with like minded individuals is a healthier alternative than dwelling in the painful existential dissonance that seemed to have to drove him over the edge
 
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I seriously do not want to know why. As a longtime fan, they have lost a lot of my respect lately. They probably literally were making an episode mocking his death or some shit.
Either that or they couldn't figure out what to do. After the assassination I wondered what South Park would do. Seems like an impossible episode to write unless they completely ignore recent events.
 
It's a bit crazy how some people lack the bare minimum decency to not condone or downplay what was effectively a cold-blooded political assassination. No, you're not obligated to eulogize the victim or say RIP. However, at least have the common sense to not out yourself as a total psychopath.

Not gonna lie, when I see Black folks celebrating Kirk's death I'm like, "Bruh, stop! You're putting all of us in danger, there's some unhinged people out here who already don't like us." I just watched some black dude at a college making a fool of himself by mocking Kirk's death, and it's like he has no idea the same thing could happen to him just for that opinion. Just like with Kirk there are unstable people looking for any excuse to come after us, that kind of stunt is dumb as fuck!

I've seen an entire Twitter thread of people trying to identify him, and even the school put out a statement saying they're investigating and will respond appropriately. What a clown.

Just looked for a follow-up https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/texas-state-expels-student-charlie-kirk-vigil

The idiot was expelled. But that doesn't remove the image from Twitter and some maniacs won't even be satisfied with that anyway.
 
What's the difference between Charlie Kirk and you? The size of the audience.

The people celebrating the murder of CK are essentially advocating for the murder of every conservative/christian/white person.
They aren't necessarily willing to do it themselves.. but they would look the other way.
"Diversity is our strength...now ignore when some diversities hate other diversities."
 
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I seriously do not want to know why. As a longtime fan, they have lost a lot of my respect lately. They probably literally were making an episode mocking his death or some shit.
They were doing a storyline where Cartman becomes a Charlie Kirk like figure debating college kids using conservative talking points and everything, they even had him using some of Charlie's mannerisms (Charlie made a post liking the whole thing and even changed his profile pic to Cartman). They probably are having to change the whole storyline and rewrite a ton.
 
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They probably are having to change the whole storyline and rewrite a ton.
If you ever listen to their commentary tracks, you know that they literally never have a storyline for a season and truly just make shit up week-by-week.

Not sure if the CK stuff is a piece of the delay or not. My guess is they just had a hard time writing an episode for any variety of reasons, didn't get a script until Friday or Saturday, and literally just ran out of time. It's happened before.

(Sorry, I recently went on a South Park commentary binge lol)
 

Has this been posted? More posts from discord. Whole thing is very bizarre, I feel like we are definitely missing a piece
Yeah, the problem here is that you can take snippets of posts, of which I'm sure there are THOUSANDS, and craft whatever narrative you want. So other than getting access to it and reading them all yourself, 'they' have successfully destroyed any trust in 'the system' and journalists have zero integrity. Internet personalities have NEGATIVE integrity since they are just shilling for clicks for $$$.
 
If you ever listen to their commentary tracks, you know that they literally never have a storyline for a season and truly just make shit up week-by-week.

Not sure if the CK stuff is a piece of the delay or not. My guess is they just had a hard time writing an episode for any variety of reasons, didn't get a script until Friday or Saturday, and literally just ran out of time. It's happened before.

(Sorry, I recently went on a South Park commentary binge lol)
We'll see what they did next week. It will be must see.
 
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But Robinson wasn't working with anyone?
We don't know this yet.

From all accounts of people that were close to him they seem to all say was largely apolitical.

How many times does this need to be pointed out to you:

Once a college scholarship recipient with a promising future, Robinson had "become more political," leaning left and supporting "pro-gay and trans rights," his mother said, according to court documents.

She also recounted heated arguments between Robinson and his father, who held sharply different views and regularly sparred over their competing ideologies.

At one point, she told police, her son dismissed Kirk's Utah Valley University (UVU) event as a "stupid" venue and claimed Kirk "spreads too much hate."

ST. GEORGE, Utah - The trans roommate of Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin "hates conservatives and Christians," one of his relatives told Fox News Digital in an interview.

The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, told Fox News Digital her relative began to act differently when he turned 18 and said that he developed a hatred of Christians and conservatives.

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I think the opposite. It should NEVER be mandatory, because low or ZERO information voters are pointless. Easy access to voting makes the system MORE susceptible to last minute marketing blitzes with zero substance, empty promises, and smoke n' mirrors tactics, not to mention outright fraud and ballot box stuffing.

We need more rigorous voter registration, absolute identification, and more security in the chain of custody for votes. Using a blockchain through a digital platform might be a solution, but there will always be "convenient outages" to influence the result.
All of this talk of voter fraud and some people being too stupid or undesirable to be allowed to vote just stokes up more anti democratic sentiment and rage. Maybe you think it is necessary or effective but it is a policy in the opposite direction to cooling down the temperature.
 

Has this been posted? More posts from discord. Whole thing is very bizarre, I feel like we are definitely missing a piece
None of this precludes him expressing or being indoctrinated by radical ideas on either servers, forums or in personal relationships.

The fact that he does not incrementally deliver a manifesto of the most cliche far left extremist in one server doesn't alter the odds of the motivation. Don't forget that the trans guy who shot up that church in Minnesota had disdain for non-whites and believed in the second amendment" to the extent of committing murder.

But both sides of the political aisle are more interested in scoring points and justifying crackdowns and laundering their extremists. That isn't me making a total equivalence, but there are parallels. The motivations of the shooter are secondary to the usefulness of those motivations for "left" or "right" in the narrative struggle.
 
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I see the public reports that the Discord thread had as many as 20 additional users. It sounds like you're trying run down all of that to see if that's accurate, who else may have been on that thread, what they may have known. Is that fair to say?

It's a lot more than that. We're running them all down.

It's a lot more than 20?

Yes sir.
 
All of this talk of voter fraud and some people being too stupid or undesirable to be allowed to vote just stokes up more anti democratic sentiment and rage. Maybe you think it is necessary or effective but it is a policy in the opposite direction to cooling down the temperature.
There they go, being against democracy again. Those rascals. #SensibleChuckle
 
Not gonna lie, when I see Black folks celebrating Kirk's death I'm like, "Bruh, stop! You're putting all of us in danger, there's some unhinged people out here who already don't like us." I just watched some black dude at a college making a fool of himself by mocking Kirk's death, and it's like he has no idea the same thing could happen to him just for that opinion. Just like with Kirk there are unstable people looking for any excuse to come after us, that kind of stunt is dumb as fuck!

I've seen an entire Twitter thread of people trying to identify him, and even the school put out a statement saying they're investigating and will respond appropriately. What a clown.

Just looked for a follow-up https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/texas-state-expels-student-charlie-kirk-vigil

The idiot was expelled. But that doesn't remove the image from Twitter and some maniacs won't even be satisfied with that anyway.

Thankfully Don Lemon thought there would be more unison with black people against Kirk's death, but that ain't the case. Sorry Don you fucking tool.



 
People get fired for expressing hatred all the time. That's not what cancel culture is. Cancel culture is disproportionate action taken against someone after a drastic shift of the Overton Window into uncharted and deranged territory, e.g., finding an old joke Tweet from ten years ago that was fine to express at the time, or going on a witch hunt because a guy went on a date that didn't work out, and destroying someone's life over it.

Publicly celebrating murder and political assassination of an American public figure is not part of the Overton Window. Employers are entirely within reason to fire their people over acting like a psychopath in public.
Yes. There's a massive difference in an organization punishing someone for current actions they took, in the present, while representing that organization, vs. random, unaffiliated strangers punishing someone for something that happened in the past that they were not a part of.

Cancel culture also operates on unverified hearsay. This is why dumb phrases like "allegations" took off and somehow became a substitute for real-world evidence.

The problem, of course, is that people don't ACTUALLY believe in any of these things. Most of these people never had any real convictions about the nature of free speech and the like. They just wanted cudgels to wield against their perceived enemies.
 
There they go, being against democracy again. Those rascals. #SensibleChuckle
Technically you could be pro democracy while tolerating a lot of anti democratic sentiment. Like if the system heavily favors you then why worry if people are rioting on the streets because they think voting doesn't solve anything. But if you want less rage in politics then I suppose you could also just totally scrap democracy then there would be no party politics and people have no reason to have a party political identity and instead things would default back more to personal interests and identity. This might lead to even more violence but it would be more like sectarian violence or "wild west" violence than political violence.
 
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