Chris Dring: Ghost of Yotei is the biggest 1st party PlayStation launch in Europe since Spider-Man 2, with launch sales in-line with Ghost of Tsushima

Kilau said:
Kojipro isn't a first party studio.
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According to Shuhei Yoshida from his Sacred Symbols interview earlier in the year, first party is a game fully funded and published by Sony, even if it's developed by an external studio. So Death Stranding is considered first party.
 
ChorizoPicozo said:
Forbidden West vibes.

They want to make Ghost of Yotei a thing.... ain't happening.
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Who's they? The buyers? lmao

Anyway, now that the game isn't woke, the game got better scores than the first game and is selling in-line or better than the previous entry there's nothing for you guys to say except "they..."* insert conspiracy theory here*

Like clockwork. Game is great, word of mouth is great, reviews are great, sales are great. Deal with it.

edit: also the first game released on a console that had sold 40M more than the PS5 at this point. Let's not forget that. And this one still sold around the same lmao.
 
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Loomy said:
According to Shuhei Yoshida from his Sacred Symbols interview earlier in the year, first party is a game fully funded and published by Sony, even if it's developed by an external studio. So Death Stranding is considered first party.
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I guess they can call it whatever they want then. First party game but not a Sony studio.
 
MondoPentecost said:
I am always suspicious of these vague metrics in a specific market comments. The games been out over a week, give the week one sales and settle the matter.
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Yep. Mat Pascatella(sp) did the same thing. If it broke records Sony would have put out official PR. So it's either flat or slightly behind after a week. Legs will be the difference maker.
 
MondoPentecost said:
Are they counting that? it was published by Sony but the development was done by AH and think they retained the IP.
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Why not count it? It's a Sony first-party game, just like Death Stranding 2.

Every game funded by the publisher — whether through money, support studios, or tools — is a first-party title. I don't know why people keep making things up to argue otherwise.

Microsoft considers Ninja Gaiden 4 a first-party game. Sony considers Death Stranding 2 and Helldivers 2 first-party games. Nintendo considers Bayonetta 2 and 3 first-party games. All publishers use literally the same criteria.
 
Kacho said:
Yep. Mat Pascatella(sp) did the same thing. If it broke records Sony would have put out official PR. So it's either flat or slightly behind after a week. Legs will be the difference maker.
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Sony is holding an event tomorrow with the game directors. They will presumably reveal the sales numbers.
 
Pop said:
In line and no numbers

yikes
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There's nothing "yikes" here.
Hollowpoint5557 said:
MLB The Show 25 was not in Gamepass this year and was selling 20% ahead of its best year in franchise history at the half year mark as reported. Wonder if it beat that as it's technically first party?
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MLB is pretty irrelevant in Europe.
MondoPentecost said:
No, HD2 is published by Sony but the IP remains with the studio, arrowhead.
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IP ownership doesn't matter. Spiderman 2 and Wolverine are first party games even though Sony doesn't own those characters.
MondoPentecost said:
I am always suspicious of these vague metrics in a specific market comments. The games been out over a week, give the week one sales and settle the matter.
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Kacho said:
Yep. Mat Pascatella(sp) did the same thing. If it broke records Sony would have put out official PR. So it's either flat or slightly behind after a week. Legs will be the difference maker.
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This is how Circana/GSD share data with the public. It's not specific to GoY.
 
Kacho said:
Yep. Mat Pascatella(sp) did the same thing. If it broke records Sony would have put out official PR. So it's either flat or slightly behind after a week. Legs will be the difference maker.
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tsk… tsk… calico just said hold the line and you are already retreating to the legs. Ho…doooorrrr!
 
FIREKNIGHT2029 said:
Boycotters right now:

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kaizenkko said:
Why not count it? It's a Sony first-party game, just like Death Stranding 2.

Every game funded by the publisher — whether through money, support studios, or tools — is a first-party title. I don't know why people keep making things up to argue otherwise.

Microsoft considers Ninja Gaiden 4 a first-party game. Sony considers Death Stranding 2 and Helldivers 2 first-party games. Nintendo considers Bayonetta 2 and 3 first-party games. All publishers use literally the same criteria.
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I always assumed when people refer to 1st party it was developed and published by the platform holder, 2nd party was produced externally and published by the platform holder and 3rd party was produced and published externally.

The Bayonetta one is wild as Sega owns the IP but ninty consider it 1st party. Like to they consider Bayo a Nintendo character like Donkey Kong?

Anyway, Dring clarified that his metric that it included HD2 as people on Twitter were similarly confused . Guess that the issue with vague metric as opposed to actual numbers.
 
some of you are just really desperate to see this game fail, you realize you're just like the other forum and the people who wanted the same for Hogwarts Legacy right? two sides of the same coin with your vehement dislike of a game for something that isn't even accurate

they thought Hogwarts was transphobic because of Rowling despite the fact it was if anything unrealistic with there being a trans bartender who is significant at points in the story in the 1800s and we've had quite a few reports that there isn't really anything woke in Yotei but you all just latch onto the VA
 
MondoPentecost said:
I always assumed when people refer to 1st party it was developed and published by the platform holder, 2nd party was produced externally and published by the platform holder and 3rd party was produced and published externally.

The Bayonetta one is wild as Sega owns the IP but ninty consider it 1st party. Like to they consider Bayo a Nintendo character like Donkey Kong?

Anyway, Dring clarified that his metric that it included HD2 as people on Twitter were similarly confused . Guess that the issue with vague metric as opposed to actual numbers.
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People love coming up with theories to fit that idea into some kind of narrative.

The way they're releasing information isn't specific or exclusive to this title — it's literally the same format used in every monthly report.

The game is selling well, right in line with the first one. Like it or not.
 
Kilau said:
Is it a boycott if you were never going to buy it and weren't the target audience?
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No it isn't. This is specifically for those who said they were going to boycott it. Mostly some salty folks here on GAF and Twitter.

Obviously the game isn't for everyone and I still respect people that never had any interest in it from the start.
 
kaizenkko said:
People love coming up with theories to fit that idea into some kind of narrative.

The way they're releasing information isn't specific or exclusive to this title — it's literally the same format used in every monthly report.

The game is selling well, right in line with the first one. Like it or not.
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My narrative is that Dring's comments are non-specific, anything else is faulty inference on your part.
 
graywolf323 said:
some of you are just really desperate to see this game fail, you realize you're just like the other forum and the people who wanted the same for Hogwarts Legacy right? two sides of the same coin with your vehement dislike of a game for something that isn't even accurate

they thought Hogwarts was transphobic because of Rowling despite the fact it was if anything unrealistic with there being a trans bartender who is significant at points in the story in the 1800s and we've had quite a few reports that there isn't really anything woke in Yotei but you all just latch onto the VA
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YES! It feels like déjà vu. I got banned from the purple forum for saying Black Myth: Wukong was a good game and deserved to succeed. Stellar Blade also faced backlash there, but Hogwarts Legacy was the worst case — they literally banned any mention of the game's existence. The one that must not be named. lol

People have completely lost their critical thinking. They want to turn every discussion into polarization — pick a side and defend it to the end, no matter how stupid or absurd it is.
 
viveks86 said:
Nah we probably agree on the tail. I'm just not sure what to make of the head yet
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Until we get actual numbers it's anyone's guess. The one thing we can all agree on is that it did better than Death Stranding 2.

The stakes for GoY sales performance aren't anything new btw. I remember getting a lot of heat when I wasn't convinced FF7 Rebirth did well. They swore to me that wasn't the case.
 
Some guys decided to come up with a crazy conspiracy theory, as if the data were being manipulated to look better.

When Sony releases the numbers, they'll say it's fake or come up with some other nonsense.

This game really hurt some people. lol
 
kaizenkko said:
Some guys decided to come up with a crazy conspiracy theory, as if the data were being manipulated to look better.

When Sony releases the numbers, they'll say it's fake or come up with some other nonsense.

This game really hurt some people. lol
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The usual suspects on Twitter were celebrating the 40% drop in UK sales last week, but now they're silent.
 
Not surprised that it's another game that some people want to fail for "reasons", but it actually ends up being a pretty damn good game. I think the worst I've heard/seen is that a lot of it is pretty similar to the first game. But I felt that was pretty apparent in all the footage we saw. So, for some, more of the same isn't really a bad thing.
 
FIREKNIGHT2029 said:
No it isn't. This is specifically for those who said they were going to boycott it. Mostly some salty folks here on GAF and Twitter.

Obviously the game isn't for everyone and I still respect people that never had any interest in it from the start.
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No way to know but it would be interesting to figure out the legitimate boycotters from the people just claiming they are a lost sale.
 
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