calico
Member
It's ok, flat or down 10% is actually significantly up if we just paraphrase it.
Chris Dring: Ghost of Yotei is the biggest 1st party PlayStation launch in Europe since Spider-Man 2, with launch sales in-line with Ghost of Tsushima
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thekillergreece
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This is a game developed by a company lots of people tried to boycott over an employee's comment, as well as the choice of actor for the protagonist.
calico
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DenchDeckard
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This doesn't surprise me. Helldivers 2 was huge on PC and ok on ps5. Especially at launch. I mean first weekend of Helldivers 2 was like 75 to 80 percent pc and the rest ps5. Then the hype train started.
Looking forward to picking this up. My backlog is embarrassing right now.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Regardless of tales from the asses that this thread is full of, with modest budget and lesser install base this game is a runaway success for SP and Sony already. I'd bet internal projections were quite realistic, especially with 40 million consoles less.
But even if you go full retard and ignore the sales data by sales people, it's trending well in all PSN regions and you can clearly see that physical is charting high enough in retail stores.
Sorry that reality hurts.
But even if you go full retard and ignore the sales data by sales people, it's trending well in all PSN regions and you can clearly see that physical is charting high enough in retail stores.
Sorry that reality hurts.
No it isn't.
Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade, Death stranding 2, Astrobot.
Usually a sequel or a successor will open bigger than the original thanks to the quality of the original game but unable to have the same leg since the bulk of sales concentrated during the launch period. Launching inline with previous game is certainly underwhelming but not nearing disaster launch like DS2.
TLOU part 1 launch - 1.3m(1st week)
TLOU part 2 launch - 4m(3 days)
GOW 2018 - 5m(1st month)
GOW Ragnarok - 5.1m(1st week)
HZD - 2.6m(1st week)
HFW - More than HZD from Insomniac leak
Spiderman - 3.3m(1st week)
Spiderman 2 - 5m(11 days)
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L*][*N*K
Member
A GaaS game,Death Stranding is not a first party title, an Obscure Korean jiggle simulator and a Mario Odyssey ripoff. Yeah Ghost of Yotai is their first AAA release since Spider-Man 2.
RafterXL
Member
Call me what they show a single actual number.
You guys pulled this same shit with AC:Shadows, took your victory laps, and that game fell off a cliff so bad Ubisoft not only never posted sales figures, they even stopped posting player numbers because they're significantly lower than previous games.
I hope you get paid for this shit. I'm not biting.
L*][*N*K
Member
I don't, do you get paid for weeping for Sony?
Zathalus
Member
An extremely popular GaaS game, Death Stranding is a first party game since PlayStation is the publisher, an obscure game that has managed to sell over 3 million copies, and 2024 game of the year.
If that's not enough, how about the fact it sold the same as GoT while having a smaller console base and not releasing during the height of Covid?
Insanemaelstrom
Member
Not to mention releasing in one of the most crowded years( how many good games have we had this year) and next to some of the years biggest releases( ea fc, battlefield 6, etc).
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I quoted several statements from Christopher Dring.
The fact that you're having a hard time understanding what people are telling you is insane.
RafterXL
Member
So it's not even fucking true. This is directly from the Christopher Dring website. It's physical only and even though it claims physical and digital, read the fine print....Sony games are one of the companies that don't report digital sales in Europe.
Now you are just making shit up. Even Dring says "in line" which means adjusted for the amount of consoles. And neither Death Stranding, Astro Bot, or Stellar Blade sold close to what Tsushima sold, so beating them at launch isn't an achievement. Helldivers 2 was a slow burn, it literally only sold 1 million copies in the first few days, across both platforms.
1.6 million is enough to outsell every PS game since Spider-Man 2. So this proves nothing.
Kacho
Gold Member
Interesting. So the sequels had higher numbers at launch but then ran out of steam? I never knew that, just that the sequels sold less.
If the same holds true for GoY while selling 10-12% less at launch, that doesn't seem good.
Have we heard anything about how well DS2 is doing overall? Very curious to see how Sony changes things up in the future. Jim Ryan's plan to do a repeat of the PS4 generation with an increased focus on GAAS doesn't seem to be a winning strategy.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
No, those are the listed partners that share data with GSD.
If a game doesn't include digital data, then it will either not appear or have an asterisk next to the title.
Ghost of Yotei delivers strong opening across Europe
But EA Sports FC 26 holds on at No.1
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Nintendo doesn't provide digital data, and that's why you see an asterisk next to first-party Nintendo titles.
Larian Studio didn't provide sales data for Baldur's Gate 3, and that's why it was missing from the 2023 best-selling games list.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Ghost of Yotei delivers strong opening across Europe
But EA Sports FC 26 holds on at No.1
opened 2nd behind EA Football Club, biggest PlayStation first-party launch in Europe since Spider-Man 2
edit: credit toDForce who posted about this first in another thread
calico
Member
I think HD2 was <1 million overall in the first few days. Compared to Tsushima's 2.4m.
People are misremembering what happened with HD2 if they are surprised by its week 1 being beaten.
I refer you to your own post, particularly your own interpretation of his comment which you will find helpfully circled in red. Note also that this was the final of his comments you presented and you had read all of them when you posted this.
Would you like me to believe your first interpretation of these comments or your new interpretation?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
With GoY we have people that are jumping from a "it is not going to do well at all because of my perceived grievance X and Y which is sure to be terrible because of the voice actor's nefarious plot to make the game uber woke" to "please, it cannot be doing well at all, it has to fail, it has to… let me spread as much BS as I can in the hope it sticks and makes for a horrible word of mouth" to "ok, it did not tank at launch like I needed it to, but the battle to kill the game's legs is just starting, must shill harder!"…
People resorted to make BS rumours about the game's ending and going to threads to spoil people with an apparently made up ending just to drum negativity up… sigh
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People resorted to make BS rumours about the game's ending and going to threads to spoil people with an apparently made up ending just to drum negativity up… sigh
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cripterion
Member
Probably still crying at the altar of his God.Hope grummz will be okay
People getting political. Game is good, so it's getting sales. As simple as it gets.
If they go for a third one though I hope they perfect the formula.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I told everyone what he said about Ghost of Tsushima vs Ghost of Yotei, and he gave several different statements.
You should be able to decipher that both launches were very, very close, with Ghost of Yotei being slightly ahead.
Mat Piscatella specifically stated "PS active users," and you still couldn't figure out he was talking about PS4 and PS5 users.
You're choosing to ignore what's right in front of your face.
Ghost of Yotei sales were very similar to Ghost of Tsushima in Europe, with Ghost of Yotei being slightly ahead. I don't know why some people in this thread have a difficult time accepting this.
nowhat
Member
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
You have a mix where you have platform warriors and people who are seeing this game exclusively as a pawn in their woke wokers vs woke anti-woke war so they need it to fail and both of them will try to shit as many threads up as they can.
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Baemono
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I don't know if someone answered you on this but basically Dring shat on Mario Wonder, calling it "made by C team" and
EDIT: okay he said it would sell but not help console sales
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Physiognomonics
Member
In line shoud mean it's lower. Otherwise he woukd have said it's higher
Baemono
Member
The whole point was to say "fastest-selling 1st party original IP", you're not gonna make a statement saying "well-selling 1st party sequel"
They can still do it though, the game just came out
Zathalus
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TrebleShot
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Good for them ive bounced off it for now i didnt find it particularly amazing.
Once BF6 came out I dropped it like a hot potato and I cant say ive felt the pull to go back.
I really dont like the voice actor of the brother. Seems to be in absolutely everything sony releases and find his voice extremely grating.
Once BF6 came out I dropped it like a hot potato and I cant say ive felt the pull to go back.
I really dont like the voice actor of the brother. Seems to be in absolutely everything sony releases and find his voice extremely grating.
icecold1983
Member
I had forgotten Astrobot, but outselling that is meaningless. The other two are not 1st party games.
DenchDeckard
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I wasnt aware that Sony sequels started strong and then nose dived in sales to end up being behind the original releases. I have read that sales are down overall but it deffo seems that there are those fans turning up and buying day one / week one but then the titles lose steam. Thats a shame.
I'm not sure what to tell you. they are considered first party games just like your other example:
Woopah
Member
I think the confusion comes from the fact that second party is kind of a subcategory of first party.
In their financial reports Nintendo will categorise things as first party or third party, but there is no second party category.
if Nintendo publishes a game, then its first party. Doesn't matter what % of the IP they own or what % of the development team are their employees. Bayonetta 3 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 are first party games, but that doesn't make them Ninty characters.
1st party are games published by Sony in this case.
Kacho
Gold Member
Chris seems like a bit of a donkey tbh. His comment about the C team was the most egregious thing and he did damage control saying that was misinterpreted lol.
Baemono
Member
I mean he wrapped it between "eh won't be a big release" and "won't help console sales" so you can't pretend "C team" was a compliment - or just the team's name not related whatsoever to the statements before and after.Chris seems like a bit of a donkey tbh. His comment about the C team was the most egregious thing and he did damage control saying that was misinterpreted lol.
kazuyamishima
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DenchDeckard
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What's that saying? Have the games outsold the originals in total numbers?
Ass of Can Whooping
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1 step backwards 2 steps forward to me getting your ass permed
DenchDeckard
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
God of War, Spider-Man 2, and Gran Turismo 7 didn't nosedive - They all sold better than their predecessor.
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart sold faster than Ratchet & Clank 2016.
The Last of Us Part II is doing similar sales without massive bundles.
Sony experimented by adding Horizon Forbidden West to PlayStation Plus, and that had a massive impact on sales.
Critical Hit
Member
Don't be confused, though: "the same" is a "a runaway success for SP".
kazuyamishima
Member
Sony barely makes any games sales updates.
As an example, they never said anything about GT7 sales, the game has 10m. sales units but zero statements
We had some insight thanks to the Insomniac Leak, all the rest are just assumptions.
DenchDeckard
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What you mean to say is, Sony stopped reporting sales numbers this gen on all their big games and we know the reason why.
It's the same reason that MS stopped reporting their sales figures for hardware and software since gamepass launched.