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[StueyDuck]

Holy gaslighting

Prove me wrong... show me the last post three made where they were criticizing Islam, or the IRGC.

 

[Bojji]

I mean its easier just to say you prefer radical Islam over trump .

Like I said earlier im not wasting my time with a loser defending radical Islam.

I just hope its not a sister or daughter that gets raped in a grooming gang, an uncle or cousin beheaded because he criticized Islam, your Jewish friend stabbed or shot at their place of worship. Because unlike you I dont want these things happening in the world

Islamists are killing thousands of Christians in Africa and no one gives a shit.

This war was never about morality or "good guys vs. bad guys".

 

[Three]

I mean its easier just to say you prefer radical Islam over trump .

Like I said earlier im not wasting my time with a loser defending radical Islam.

I just hope its not a sister or daughter that gets raped in a grooming gang, an uncle or cousin beheaded because he criticized Islam, your Jewish friend stabbed or shot at their place of worship. Because unlike you I dont want these things happening in the world

It's crazy that is what you took from my post but I'm not surprised. fearmongering nonsense of me somehow wanting terrible things happening in the world is how you justify your own hatred for people who have nothing to do with it.

 

[StueyDuck]

Islamists are killing thousand's of Christians in Africa and no one gives a shit.

This war was never about morality or "good guys vs. bad guys".

Thats exactly my point though... no one gives a shit about the radical element that is slaughtering innocent people and boko haram are literally funded by the IRGC

 

[StueyDuck]

It's crazy that is what you took from my post but I'm not surprised. fearmongering nonsense of me somehow wanting terrible things happening in the world is how you justify your own hatred for people who have nothing to do with it.

Is radical Islam not something to be feared?

People just enjoying a day at the beach getting slaughtered by two radicals killing in the name of Islam?

Thats normal to you?

Why dont you hate that? I hate it because its founded on conversion and murder. So tell me why it shouldnt be hated?

 

[adamsapple]

Islamists are killing thousands of Christians in Africa and no one gives a shit.

This war was never about morality or "good guys vs. bad guys".

It seems like there's still some legit confusion on what this war was even about.

As of a few pages ago in this very thread, some users were arguing that regime change was one of the major objectives of this war even though the POTUS directly said it wasn't.

 

[Bojji]

Thats exactly my point though... no one gives a shit about the radical element that is slaughtering innocent people and boko haram are literally funded by the IRGC

I think they will find a way to terrorize local populations with or without help from Iran.

And if Iran will now be able to make money on every passing ship, you think they will stop supporting groups like that? This war didn't change how Iran operates and who is ruling it.

I was never against destruction of Iranian regime, but Trump campaign is pretty much not how it should be done (this wasn't well prepared).

 

[StueyDuck]

I think they will find a way to terrorize local populations with or without help from Iran.

And if Iran will now be able to make money on every passing ship, you think they will stop supporting groups like that? This war didn't change how Iran operates and who is ruling it.

I was never against destruction of Iranian regime, but Trump campaign is pretty much not how it should be done (this wasn't well prepared).

But my entire point is why are we not criticizing those elements... its like people have this deep seated "you cant be Islamophobic because theyll cut your head off" that no one's even willing to mention it.

I said earlier, which three just laughed off and still somehow made trump the bad guy, the US pulled back, agreed to the ceasefire, and The IRGC continued to fire rockets at my family in the UAE. How are they not ultimately the bad guys, they are using cluster munitions an actual legitimate war crime, on civilians in Israel.

Also all the laughing emojis from eurogaf is really telling also.

I agree that this war was handled poorly. But people acting like nothing should be done, everything was perfect before. What utter tripe

 

[Three]

Is radical Islam not something to be feared?

Yes but what has nothing to do with your own blantent extremist veiws on it. The war in Iran has nothing to do with grooming gangs. Just as you can't say we should bomb Israel because of Epstien.

People just enjoying a day at the beach getting slaughtered by two radicals killing in the name of Islam?

Thats normal to you?

Who said it was? but is it related to a war on Iran in your radicalised imagination?

If anything it proves my point that these wars abroad create more inexcusable terrorist incidents, it doesn't stop them. It's not related to Iran though despite how hard you try to connect all the wrongdoings in the world with an umbrella islam.

Why dont you hate that? I hate it because its founded on conversion and murder. So tell me why it shouldnt be hated?

I'm not wasting my time on you any further when you keep trying to gaslight me with this stuff, you refuse to even understand what I'm saying. I never argued for or against islam let alone radical islam. Just consider the fact that maybe you yourself have been radicalised when you're justifying bombing a country and killing its people blaming it for things it had nothing to do with simply because of a shared religion. Does that sound familiar to you?

 

[Critical Hit]

 

[StueyDuck]

Yes but what has nothing to do with your own blantent extremist veiws on it. The war in Iran has nothing to do with grooming gangs. Just as you can't say we should bomb Israel because of Epstien.


Who said it was? but is it related to a war on Iran in your radicalised imagination?

If anything it proves my point that these wars abroad create more inexcusable terrorist incidents, it doesn't stop them. It's not related to Iran though despite how hard you try to connect all the wrongdoings in the world with an umbrella islam.


I'm not wasting my time on you any further when you keep trying to gaslight me with this stuff, you refuse to even understand what I'm saying. I never argued for or against islam let alone radical islam. Just consider the fact that maybe you yourself have been radicalised when you're justifying bombing a country and killing its people blaming it for things it had nothing to do with simply because of a shared religion. Does that sound familiar to you?

I am not wasting time on a man who clearly is trying to gaslight the actual evil that is radical Islam.

me "radical" sitting and having an opinion on the internet. Radical Islam, literally converting, grooming and murdering people every day into a belief system that has no rights for women, gay people and even dogs.

You are literally trying to paint them as the misunderstood victims... I know what you are all about.

But I'm radical....

I genuinely think you are a gross person for defending it and using the woke "no akstually you da biggot" counterargument.

As I say, I just hope you don't have anyone in your life suffer through the pain caused by these animals.

 

[Tams]

There's no way gulf countries will let that toll stay in place. Phone calls likely being made between all parties, including Europe/china, to drop that. Or is this going to play out where toll is only charged using dollars? Idk…it's a fuck up for sure, but that toll will not be agreed upon

It's all reliant on how able Iran are to track and attack ships with drones and missiles (which are just fancy drones). They have no navy or airforce left to enforce it.

For a start, only Omani waters could be used. The other Gulf states could decide to finance insurance that accepts a few ships will be hit. They could easily afford dummy targets given the state of Iran's forces. Hell, it may even be cheaper to build and defend some pipelines.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[Three]

I am not wasting time on a man who clearly is trying to gaslight the actual evil that is radical Islam.

Nobody was even talking about radical islam. That's what you made it about. I don't think you understand what gaslighting even means.

me "radical" sitting and having an opinion on the internet. Radical Islam, literally converting, grooming and murdering people every day into a belief system that has no rights for women, gay people and even dogs.

You being radicalised doesn't mean you're a terrorist or pedo, so yeah, you're radicalised. You said you have family in the UAE? How do they live with all the muslims there?

You are literally trying to paint them as the misunderstood victims... I know what you are all about.

But I'm radical....

I genuinely think you are a gross person for defending it and using the woke "no akstually you da biggot" counterargument.

I think you're a gross person by trying to make this about "a war on islam" and suggesting how all the wrongdoings by people are all connected in some way because they happen to be muslims. So you seem to think to yourself fuck logic and disliking the wrongdoing itself it must be islam, if somebody doesn't agree with your war it must be because they like grooming gangs and shooting innocent people simply because the people in the war are islamic. You're a radical nutjob but if radical nutjobs could see what they are they wouldn't be one.

As I say, I just hope you don't have anyone in your life suffer through the pain caused by these animals.

Little do you know what I've been through. I don't collectively call an entire religion animals though and group them into one.

 

[BattleScar]

I am not wasting time on a man who clearly is trying to gaslight the actual evil that is radical Islam.

me "radical" sitting and having an opinion on the internet. Radical Islam, literally converting, grooming and murdering people every day into a belief system that has no rights for women, gay people and even dogs.

You are literally trying to paint them as the misunderstood victims... I know what you are all about.

But I'm radical....

I genuinely think you are a gross person for defending it and using the woke "no akstually you da biggot" counterargument.

As I say, I just hope you don't have anyone in your life suffer through the pain caused by these animals.

Nobody's defending radical Islam. You're arguing against a ghost. Or just strawmanning.

The problem is, this war has nothing to do with defeating radical Islam, because Trump and his band of merry sycophants don't actually give a shit. Defeating Iran won't actually end radical Islam. The same way it didn't end after killing Bin Laden.
Its all just a bunch of political sophistry. This war won't end any of the things you're complaining about.

The goal was never regime change, not for Trump, anyway. And if it was, it would need to be far better executed, with actual involvement of allies, rather than just launching missile strikes from a distance and hoping for the best.

 

[StueyDuck]

Nobody was even talking about radical islam. That's what you made it about. I don't think you understand what gaslighting even means.

You being radicalised doesn't mean you're a terrorist or pedo, so yeah, you're radicalised. You said you have family in the UAE? How do they live with all the muslims there?


I think you're a gross person by trying to make this about "a war on islam" and suggesting how all the wrongdoings by people are all connected in some way because they happen to be muslims. So you seem to think to yourself fuck logic and disliking the wrongdoing itself it must be islam, if somebody doesn't agree with your war it must be because they like grooming gangs and shooting innocent people simply because the people in the war are islamic. You're a radical nutjob but if radical nutjobs could see what they are they wouldn't be one.

Little do you know what I've been through. I don't collectively call an entire religion animals though and group them into one.

Yep... you are exactly what I thought you were.

Im not gonna spend time on someone who defends that sort of thing

 

[StueyDuck]

Nobody's defending radical Islam. You're arguing against a ghost. Or just strawmanning.

The problem is, this war has nothing to do with defeating radical Islam, because Trump and his band of merry sycophants don't actually give a shit. Defeating Iran won't actually end radical Islam. The same way it didn't end after killing Bin Laden.
Its all just a bunch of political sophistry. This war won't end any of the things you're complaining about.

The goal was never regime change, not for Trump, anyway. And if it was, it would need to be far better executed, with actual involvement of allies, rather than just launching missile strikes from a distance and hoping for the best.

I dont care what the war is about, it is a radical Islamic regime and when I mentioned that three said "oh your one of those"

 

[Senua]

I dont care what the war is about

At least you're honest

 

[Three]

Yep... you are exactly what I thought you were.

Im not gonna spend time on someone who defends that sort of thing

Nice deflection. Nobody defended "that sort of thing" by which I assume you mean pedos or terrorists. That's your own crazy imagination and strawman argument. I will defend any innocent person of any religion and wouldn't call anyone animals by religious association to other criminals. That's just daft but I don't expect you to understand it.

 

[Three]

I dont care what the war is about, it is a radical Islamic regime and when I mentioned that three said "oh your one of those"

And I was right it seems.

 

[StueyDuck]

At least you're honest

I am honest, its a quality about myself that I like.

And ill openly criticize the actual bad people in this situation.

This whole war doesnt exist without a rabbid group of people doing heinous horrible things to the globe for over 47 years

Yeah I take it personal when I have family having rockets fired at them even though the UAE didnt start rhe war.

And no they arent firing at US bases, they are launching indiscriminately at civilians, hitting hotels and airports and telecommunications towers and thank god those are mostly the stragglers and most missiles were stopped

I find it hard to not see the people shooting those rockets as the bad guys

But hey, orange man bad I guess

 

[StueyDuck]

And I was right it seems.

Like I said before, I just hope, pray even that no one close to you has to suffer at the hands of these animals like a friend of mine who was shot in the back, paralyzed for life and suffer chronic pain daily.

For simply committing the crime of not being Islamic himself.

 

[StueyDuck]

Nice deflection. Nobody defended "that sort of thing" by which I assume you mean pedos or terrorists. That's your own crazy imagination and strawman argument. I will defend any innocent person of any religion and wouldn't call anyone animals by religious association to other criminals. That's just daft but I don't expect you to understand it.

Well youve not had anyone suffer because of it.

Only an animal would purposely launch a rocket at my 3 year old neice whose in a country thats not even involved in this war.

 

[BattleScar]

Yeah I take it personal when I have family having rockets fired at them even though the UAE didnt start rhe war.

And no they arent firing and US bases, they are launching indiscriminately at civilians, hitting hotels and airports and telecommunications towers and thank god those are mostly the stragglers and most missiles were stopped

They're firing those missiles, because Trump fired missiles and killed their leader first.

Now before you go and start revving those engines saying that I'm defending them, I'm not. I just want to point out that actions have consequences, and your family has been endangered by the consequences of actions taken by one Donald J. Trump.

If the world wanted to be rid of a radical Islamist, despotic regime, then better care should have been taken to harden our allied nations, secure our supply chains and merchant vessels, BEFORE randomly launching missiles as a "surprise attack" that killed the leader, but failed to actually end the regime. Yeah, the US hasn't lost in absolute terms. But they haven't won either and that makes it an abject failure.
Iran now gets to charge millions of dollars to vessels travelling through the strait, which was once considered international waters. The only thing that has been achieved, is providing a terrorist regime with a new source of revenue. Genius.

 

[Toons]

The "TDS" and "terrorist sympathiser" buzzwords are getting so old. You can be critical of the US government without supporting the IRGC. Not everything is black and white.

Getting? It was old and trite in 2018

Consider that before the war, there were around 65 ships crossing the straight per day.
If Iran gains control of it and charges 2 million dollars per ship, which is what they are currently charging, that would mean over 45 Billion dollars per year.
Now consider that Iran GDP is 375Billion. This would mean a gigantic increase in revenue for Iran and the IRGC.

Trump skyrocketing irans income, while this who criticized him doing this were called terrorist sympathizers. Makes you think.

 

[StueyDuck]

They're firing those missiles, because Trump fired missiles and killed their leader first.

Now before you go and start revving those engines saying that I'm defending them, I'm not. I just want to point out that actions have consequences, and your family has been endangered by the consequences of actions taken by one Donald J. Trump.

If the world wanted to be rid of a radical Islamist, despotic regime, then better care should have been taken to harden our allied nations, secure our supply chains and merchant vessels, BEFORE randomly launching missiles as a "surprise attack" that killed the leader, but failed to actually end the regime. Yeah, the US hasn't lost in absolute terms. But they haven't won either and that makes it an abject failure.
Iran now gets to charge millions of dollars to vessels travelling through the strait, which was once considered international waters. The only thing that has been achieved, is providing a terrorist regime with a new source of revenue. Genius.

What sort of logic is that... us and israel attacks iran... oh well we gotta bomb innocent civilians in the UAE and Kuwait

Im sorry if they are attack the US bases then sure but they arent

So im not at all agreeing with you that it justifies them bombing civilians.

I dont care if china bombs iran, then their beef is with china, launching rockets at civilians in countries not involved is not a valid response at all and im not gonna placate the idea that its trumps fault.

England bombs France so France starts killing Portuguese civilians... its just silly.

Iran saw an opportunity to kill innocents and they took it.

 

[BattleScar]

What sort of logic is that... us and israel attacks us... oh well we gotta bomb innocent civilians in the UAE and Kuwait

Im sorry if they are attack the US bases then sure but they arent

So im not at all agreeing with you that it justifies them bombing civilians.

If you actually read what I said, I said I'm not justifying those actions.
Its indefensible to attack civilians.

What I said was, this bullshit is a consequence of hasty, ill-judged actions orchestrated by two mad men. If perhaps they'd actually thought about a real strategy before they started firing off missiles, perhaps a great deal of tragedy could have been avoided.
But no.

I dont care if china bombs iran, then their beef is with china, launching rockets at civilians in countries not involved is not a valid response at all and im not gonna placate the idea that its trumps fault.

If China bombed Iran, you can bet the result would have been the same. Because Iran can't win a direct war, so their targets are economic. Ships, ports, power - i.e money.
But China didn't bomb Iran. Trump and Israel did. And they did so, without any consideration of CONSEQUENCES. So yes, they are indirectly at fault.

 

[StueyDuck]

If you actually read what I said, I said I'm not justifying those actions.
Its indefensible to attack civilians.

What I said was, this bullshit is a consequence of hasty, ill-judged actions orchestrated by two mad men. If perhaps they'd actually thought about a real strategy before they started firing off missiles, perhaps a great deal of tragedy could have been avoided.
But no.


If China bombed Iran, you can bet the result would have been the same. Because Iran can't win a direct war, so their targets are economic. Ships, ports, power - i.e money.
But China didn't bomb Iran. Trump and Israel did. And they did so, without any consideration of CONSEQUENCES. So yes, they are indirectly at fault.

I understood what you said im saying that even saying well actions have responses is still completely removing criticism from the bad guys.

I agree and have said earlier, was there a better way to handle this? Yes... although I dont think europe and the UN were ever going to come to the table on this one. I dont know if there ever would have been a better way to do this because the allied nations dont want to remove that element.

Its a response that shouldnt be put on trumps shoulders, because, then no one can do anything to iran theyll just slaughter innocents no matter who. Isn't that literally terrorism

 

[adamsapple]

Saudi and Iran are talking:

 

[Three]

Well youve not had anyone suffer because of it.

Based on what? I've had very close family directly affected not only by this war but myself in a previous long war as a child. I lost contact with them due to the government there too for some time and have to use specific messaging apps to check if they're ok every day.

Only an animal would purposely launch a rocket at my 3 year old neice whose in a country thats not even involved in this war.

Again my sympathy for you too I don't know about the incident. I imagine the intention isn't to purposefully kill kids or school children from either side but ordinary people suffer most during war, those who didn't choose war, those who lose homes, lives, or loved one. That's why people are so antiwar to begin with, not because "they support grooming gangs or shooting innocent people on a beach". These wars don't stop terrorism or promote stability, they only increase incidents. The region was far more stable before some pushed for war in the region for reasons that have nothing to do with what you're using as justification.

 

[Ghostage]

Trump is obviously never going to say outright that combating radical Islam is the goal, partly because that is not the primary objective but a consequence of what they are trying to achieve, and partly because the crazies would likely twist his words, as they often do, and claim that he wants to target all Muslims.

I honestly think people need to read Khomeini's last will and testament if they want to understand what the Islamic Republic actually is, what it wants, and the kind of threat it poses to the world. I did not understand this either until my Iranian wife told me to read it. The stories she and her relatives have told me of what they have endured are just crazy and unbelievable.

People also seem to forget that the Islamic Republic and its supporters have been chanting "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" since the revolution. The people killed in January are just a drop in the ocean compared to how many of its own people it has killed since the revolution. Just the fact that they have used their resources to fund terrorist organisations instead of building up their country is as clear of a proof you can get.

Also, ending the regime is not something that can be done by just bombing, it is something that has to be done by the Iranians and/or boots on the ground. The goal is to weaken the Islamic Republic to give the Iranian people a shot, and the issue is that they are afraid after being slaughtered on the streets.

 

[RoboFu]

Trump is obviously never going to say outright that combating radical Islam is the goal, partly because that is not the primary objective but a consequence of what they are trying to achieve, and partly because the crazies would likely twist his words, as they often do, and claim that he wants to target all Muslims.

I honestly think people need to read Khomeini's last will and testament if they want to understand what the Islamic Republic actually is, what it wants, and the kind of threat it poses to the world. I did not understand this either until my Iranian wife told me to read it. The stories she and her relatives have told me of what they have endured are just crazy and unbelievable.

People also seem to forget that the Islamic Republic and its supporters have been chanting "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" since the revolution. The people killed in January are just a drop in the ocean compared to how many of its own people it has killed since the revolution. Just the fact that they have used their resources to fund terrorist organisations instead of building up their country is as clear of a proof you can get.

Also, ending the regime is not something that can be done by just bombing, it is something that has to be done by the Iranians and/or boots on the ground. The goal is to weaken the Islamic Republic to give the Iranian people a shot, and the issue is that they are afraid after being slaughtered on the streets.

The Dems and the media knows all of that so they dance around it to make anything else attached as "Trump Bad" , but who cares really? He isn't going to be there a third term and not a lot of other Republicans connect themselves with him. Which is why it's so disgusting that they even lay it on so thick. it's like they say .. Who cares how many Iranians ( and people in other countries) have died needlessly in the lass 40+ years because of radical islamist as long as we can paint "Trump Bad" over everything.



The Iranian islamic extremist are in a bad place. they know if they do not compromise they Die. They also know that they have built up the lie that people should die for their god and hate for America so much that their people will kill them if they show weakness and compromise.

 

[AJUMP23]

Reddit level logic. You can not need something for your own region. US doesn't need oil from the Gulf, but they know it is better for the world oil supply to allow the free flow of goods to the world. US has plenty of oil in its hemisphere. I think it is good diplomacy to find a way for your allies to get petroleum that they need for their economies.

 

[Vestal]

The Dems and the media knows all of that so they dance around it to make anything else attached as "Trump Bad" , but who cares really? He isn't going to be there a third term and not a lot of other Republicans do not connect themselves with him. Which is why it's so disgusting that they even lay it on so thick. it's like they say .. Who cares how many Iranians ( and people in other countries) have died needlessly in the lass 40+ years because of radical islamist as long as we can paint "Trump Bad" over everything.



The Iranian islamic extremist are in a bad place. they know if they do not compromise they Die. They also know that they have built up the lie that people should die for their god and hate for America so much that their people will kill them if they show weakness and compromise.

Everyone here criticizing this war right now is 100% against the IRGC and the Iranian Theocracy. We want to get rid of them, but we see what is happening and easily put things together to realize shit was not thought out and its a fucking mess. We may end up with a more legitimized Iranian regime than when this all started. All the while increasing the cost of living for everyone involved.

I mean ffs we have already removed sanctions from both Russia and Iran over this bullshit war.

 

[StueyDuck]

Based on what? I've had very close family directly affected not only by this war but myself in a previous long war as a child. I lost contact with them due to the government there too for some time and have to use specific messaging apps to check if they're ok every day.

Again my sympathy for you too I don't know about the incident. I imagine the intention isn't to purposefully kill kids or school children from either side but ordinary people suffer most during war, those who didn't choose war, those who lose homes, lives, or loved one. That's why people are so antiwar to begin with, not because "they support grooming gangs or shooting innocent people on a beach". These wars don't stop terrorism or promote stability, they only increase incidents. The region was far more stable before some pushed for war in the region for reasons that have nothing to do with what you're using as justification.

From either side ... are you still protecting them

They purposely target civilians, this is getting mental now

 

[adamsapple]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-israel-wants-start-peace-talks-with-lebanon-as-soon-possible-2026-04-09/

JERUSALEM, April 9 (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday that he has given an instruction for ‌Israel to begin peace talks with Lebanon that would also include the disarming of Hezbollah.

"In light of Lebanon's repeated requests to open direct negotiations with Israel, I instructed the cabinet yesterday to start direct negotiations with ⁠Lebanon as soon as possible," Netanyahu said in a statement. "The negotiations will focus on disarming Hezbollah and establishing peaceful relations between Israel and Lebanon."

An hour before Netanyahu's statement, Lebanese President Joseph Aoun said that "the only solution to the situation in Lebanon is to achieve a ceasefire between Israel ‌and ⁠Lebanon, followed by direct negotiations between them."

 

[LearnandBurn]

Reddit level logic. You can not need something for your own region. US doesn't need oil from the Gulf, but they know it is better for the world oil supply to allow the free flow of goods to the world. US has plenty of oil in its hemisphere. I think it is good diplomacy to find a way for your allies to get petroleum that they need for their economies.

Absolutely. Global inflation from the market losing 20% of oil production isn't going to help anyone's economy, including America's.

Everyone benefits from that Hermuz Straight not being shut down.

I don't think a lot of folks realize how bad this can end up being for everyone.

 

[devutos]

Trump is obviously never going to say outright that combating radical Islam is the goal, partly because that is not the primary objective but a consequence of what they are trying to achieve, and partly because the crazies would likely twist his words, as they often do, and claim that he wants to target all Muslims.

This guy tweets about invading allies and ending civilizations, and somehow you have convinced yourself he will not say he wants to fight radical Islam for fear of being misquoted? Unbelievable.

 

[adamsapple]

This guy tweets about invading allies and ending civilizations, and somehow you have convinced yourself he will not say he wants to fight radical Islam for fear of being misquoted? Unbelievable.

Lest we forget he tweeted, not more than a few days ago, about ending an entire civilization of 90 million people.

To say Trump won't tweet something because if might be offensive is a pretty laughable statement in context. Clearly POTUS has no filter, for better or for worse depending on who you're asking.

 

[StueyDuck]

This guy tweets about invading allies and ending civilizations, and somehow you have convinced yourself he will not say he wants to fight radical Islam for fear of being misquoted? Unbelievable.

Ending with "praise allah" or however he said it was basically him doing so anyway

 

[Jaybe]

I wish some of these countries weighing in on Israel's war on Hezbollah, asking for them to stop, would put together a multi country force to disarm them since most of these countries have Hezbollah as a terrorist group.

 

[adamsapple]

I wish some of these countries weighing in on Israel's war on Hezbollah, asking for them to stop, would put together a multi country force to disarm them since most of these countries have Hezbollah as a terrorist group.

"Support" for Hezbullah in Lebanon is pretty divided from what I can see online, the best course of action would be to work with Lebanon in rooting it out, no?

The videos of entire streets being razed are pretty damn devastating. Probably more civilians being affected than members of Hezbullah I guess. It's better to do targeted operations with the local government's support instead of blanket bombings.

It seems like at least that's what Bibi's comment in the article I posted above is also leaning towards, and that's good.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Are we acting like this is the final outcome for some reason?

People who hate Trump and America are, which has been the case since the war started...

 

[calico]

I dont think you get it. This wasn't playtime conversations.

I do, and yes it is. Being really upset about it (this is the full extent of their 'plan') would do absolutely nothing to recapture an annexed Greenland.

Anyone believing other European nations would go to war with the US to try and recapture it is not living in reality. Diplomatic efforts, sure, but a military option does not exist.

 

[adamsapple]

I do, and yes it is. Being really upset about it (this is the full extent of their 'plan') would do absolutely nothing to recapture an annexed Greenland.

Anyone believing other European nations would go to war with the US to try and recapture it is not living in reality. Diplomatic efforts, sure, but a military option does not exist.

Dude .. stop .. no one wants the US to invade greenland, not even the vast majority of Republicans.

Go hang out with Lindsay Graham or something.

 

[Jaybe]

"Support" for Hezbullah in Lebanon is pretty divided from what I can see online, the best course of action would be to work with Lebanon in rooting it out, no?

Lebanon sadly seems to have limited military force and no will to use it, hence my suggestion that other concerned countries step up

 

[buttnuggett]

Define acting normally.

 

[buttnuggett]

Dude .. stop .. no one wants the US to invade greenland, not even the vast majority of Republicans.

Go hang out with Lindsay Graham or something.

Yep. Any act of war against NATO would be an immediate removal from power. Either the 25th or impeachment/conviction. I'm not a big fan of NATO, but attacking them directly is certainly a choice.

 

[calico]

Dude .. stop .. no one wants the US to invade greenland, not even the vast majority of Republicans.

Go hang out with Lindsay Graham or something.

Ok? The conversation was about whether Europe has the military capability to do anything about it if the US decided to do it (it doesn't).

 

[buttnuggett]

Ok? The conversation was about whether Europe has the military capability to do anything about it if the US decided to do it (it doesn't).

Depends on how they wanna go. As far as conventional warfare, they don't. OTOH, it isn't a good idea to do that either. The dollar hegemony depends on people willing to put value in it. It's the FIAT currency trap. If we invaded, they would pull out. It's not the Iran situation. WE would be the irrational actors in this.