Sony says no to PS Vita price cut
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Opus Angelorum
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I don't think anyone has ever complained about the length of an E3 conference, unless it is filled with utter shit.
Metallix87
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I disagree. He's doing a poor job, based on his inability to produce a single system seller for the Vita.
Eel O'Brian
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It isn't just that there wasn't a "sizzle reel" for upcoming Vita games, it's the fact that the "25 playable games" on the show floor didn't even rate a mention during the presentation. That's something which would have taken all of ten seconds: "Over two dozen Playstation Vita games, all of which will be releasing soon, are available in our booths for you to try right now." That it wasn't deemed important enough to spare half a minute on is an incredibly shitty way to dismiss the people throwing support behind your shaky system.
First and foremost, Wonderbook didn't need a real time demo. The 5 minute trailer promo and showing Rowling was involved was more than enough. As long as those 90 minutes were packed with content through trailers and quick 10 minute demos, that would have been enough. Andrew House spoke too much and so did Tretton on occasion cutting into much needed Vita. I also think they announced too much for Vita via Playstation Blog. Sly Copper for Vita would have been a nice e3 announcement.
Dead Prince
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wonderbook should have just been a vita software. Using the back camera and a card from the pack they gave with in. there's really no need for what they show really.
Would buy at 200 with a decent game. Don't care for sports and Burning Skies is apparently shit.
haha, indeed. JK Rowling collab clouded their minds.
DiscoJer
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Well, I think this is the list
http://e3.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=1069
(there are 26 games, but one is COD, which I don't believe was shown in any form).
It's a list of games alright, but I'm not sure it's much to brag about. Sports titles, Lego titles, downloadable games, HD Collections.
When Vikings Attack? Foosball?
pslayer666
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To the people saying Sony is not trying hard enough for the Vita, 75% of their stage, 75% of the time was all VITA. Isn't that pushing it?
They talked about the cross-play bs and they demoed the smash bros thing and showed ACIIIL.
They obviously really didn't think about showing more and that's gonna cost them unless they unleash a media torrent of games to be released on it soon.
As a Vita owner, I didn't really feel that disheartened by what the showed. *shrugs*
They talked about the cross-play bs and they demoed the smash bros thing and showed ACIIIL.
They obviously really didn't think about showing more and that's gonna cost them unless they unleash a media torrent of games to be released on it soon.
As a Vita owner, I didn't really feel that disheartened by what the showed. *shrugs*
The couple hundred of us who are going to buy that game didn't need a trailer at E3 to be convinced.
criesofthepast
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Yoshida is always so honest. I love the guy.
MoogleWizard
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No, they should have showed me some exclusive games and not posters and screen savers of the hardware. I already know the hardware is awesome, but so far I don't know anything about big upcoming games that I can play on that awesome hardware.
I already have a PS3 to play Battle Royale and Sly Cooper, they have to show consumers games they need a Vita for, not show games that you can play on another system (one that is cheaper at that, the Vita costs more than the PS3!).
The cross-play looks nice, but afaik you need to buy a copy for both systems for it to work, who's going to spend 100 bucks on one game?
I think it's a real shame, Sony have this great little machine with loads of potential but they act like they don't even care.
pslayer666
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Touche!!! ;-)
All this doom and gloom though, it's a bit too early I think. It'll pick up, it has too.
You are right and I agree with you. They should have showed more. But they wanted to pimp that harry potter shit. It's already biting them on the ass that move.
As far the BR and the Sly games go though, they're both games I probably wouldn't get for my ps3, but I am definitely getting them for my Vita. So I guess that's a matter of preference really.
I have some hope left, hopefully they'll make up for this at gamescon and TGS. They have too!
PuppetMaster
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Also to be fair, Vita and PSP games just don't show well at a conference on that huge screen
When you show a hand held game right after showing a full console game, it puts the handheld version in a bad light
When you show a hand held game right after showing a full console game, it puts the handheld version in a bad light
You're right. They had an image of the Vita on the background of the stage, all is well.
Ultimadrago
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"Then I say no to Vita."
Too easy.
Too easy.
Opus Angelorum
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Criminal Upper
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well, that's that.
Neko Mimi Mode
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You don't seem to understand. People expected, nay demanded, game announcements. If failing that then a price drop. The system is only just out and nobody is buying it because there are no compelling reasons to do so.
To make matters worse, Sony's lack of support (compounded by their inept presser in which the Vita was barely acknowledged) adds fuel to the fire of consumer caution. In today's difficult economic climate, most people aren't willing to pay for a device if there's any chance support will drop entirely within two years.
Bottom line is Sony bottled it. I'd argue the pressure was on them the most this year to deliver. Microsoft are riding out the crest of the 360 wave to next gen on the safeness of Halo. Nintendo have time to reevaluate yet again and generate interest in the Wii U. For Sony, the PS3 is fine, they needed to focus on the Vita and they didn't.
It's a disaster, but from the company that took the most lucrative console franchise in gaming history and flushed it down the toilet on $599, it's unsurprising.
michaelius
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Heh true - I'm still wondering how one can fuck up conference so badly when he has so many decent titles annouced in few weeks before E3.
Noisepurge
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the price is right and was even applauded when it was announced.
just this part "And our priority is to achieve the potential through more games and services." SHOULD COME TRUE, more games please!
just this part "And our priority is to achieve the potential through more games and services." SHOULD COME TRUE, more games please!
I actually think the idea of showing less and giving each thing more time is great and something Sony really needed after past conferences. They just did a piss poor job of picking what they were going to highlight.
pslayer666
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What I was saying was that they thought they were 'trying', but their efforts were really not what people expected. They totally mis-judged what they needed to show and thought all will be well.
Hopefully they'll make things right soon.
I don't want the fucking thing to die, I paid 250 euro for it for crying out loud!
Indeed.
They have been piss poor for years the moment they pick move to highlight and recently wonderbook. They should stop making casual perpherials and focus on the core.
Opus Angelorum
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It was very simple. The PSVita is less than 6 months old, the majority of the conference should have been about it.
That's showing a picture of something on a stage.
Pushing it would have been a portion with a sizzle reel of stuff that's already out, live demos of upcoming games (even just LittleBigPlanet would have made sense), another reel with that and other games on the horizon, and another run-down of features and why people might want it.
Current support isn't anything to write home about, but reminding people what's out and what's on the horizon is a good thing to do, especially when your platform is bombing. They didn't bother to even do the bare minimum of that, so I don't really know what they're thinking.
flyinpiranha
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Exactly! Every time a person posts Vita games lists all I see are games I personally don't care about.
I made a list (similar to yours with GT and such) in the last thread and nobody says anything. LBP isn't fun for me, I don't enjoy it. So maybe it isn't the Vita. Maybe the Vita has the greatest handheld selection of games out than any other console ever in the history of the world ... I'm just not interested in them.
Plus it's expensive.
Saying no to a price cut means no to a sale. I can't believe how much they are fucking this up. I just wish it would get 4-5 awesome RPG's and maybe Puzzle Quest 3 or something so I can buy it when it's in the clearance rack.
The price was applauded before we realized you needed to spend more on expensive proprietary memory and the ridiculous $50 price for certain games.
I really don't understand people.
What types of games people really think will "save" Vita? If they announce new, exclusive games of stablished IPs, people says "lol, sidestory, not gonna buy". If they announce new IPs, people say "lol, new IP, it'll sell like shit". If they announce multiplatform games, peopl say "lol, ports".
Looking from that perspective, what type of game will be doing good on Vita? I think no one.
What types of games people really think will "save" Vita? If they announce new, exclusive games of stablished IPs, people says "lol, sidestory, not gonna buy". If they announce new IPs, people say "lol, new IP, it'll sell like shit". If they announce multiplatform games, peopl say "lol, ports".
Looking from that perspective, what type of game will be doing good on Vita? I think no one.
Here's how you cut the length:
1. Have Jack Tretton not spend 5 minutes at a time for 3 sentences worth of content
2. No 20 minute Wonderbook demo
3. Don't bookend each announcement by having the presenter re-explain what they said before the announcement
Suddenly there's room for at least a damned Vita sizzle reel.
BONUS! Nintendo Edition:
1. Don't spend 10 minutes saying you have no time
2. I appreciate that they get the whole chain of people involved out there, but we would spend 5 minutes watching people introduce new people, then introduce even more people, just for that last person to say "here's a trailer!"
3. We don't need to know every single detail about the Luigi Nintendoland game
4. We don't need two extended trailers in a row, showing nothing but panoramic shots of the Nintendoland hub world.
Microsoft did alright, pacing-wise, except for that extended Nike announcement.
1. Have Jack Tretton not spend 5 minutes at a time for 3 sentences worth of content
2. No 20 minute Wonderbook demo
3. Don't bookend each announcement by having the presenter re-explain what they said before the announcement
Suddenly there's room for at least a damned Vita sizzle reel.
BONUS! Nintendo Edition:
1. Don't spend 10 minutes saying you have no time
2. I appreciate that they get the whole chain of people involved out there, but we would spend 5 minutes watching people introduce new people, then introduce even more people, just for that last person to say "here's a trailer!"
3. We don't need to know every single detail about the Luigi Nintendoland game
4. We don't need two extended trailers in a row, showing nothing but panoramic shots of the Nintendoland hub world.
Microsoft did alright, pacing-wise, except for that extended Nike announcement.
Announcing any games at all would have been better than nothing. Yes, Playstation all stars is nothing.
All they had for Vita were three announcements, but they were new game announcements. All Stars, Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation and Call of Duty Black Ops Declassified.
THIS! THIS! THIS!
It doesn't take a genius or a team of marketing drones to realize that your just-released-handheld should be the focus of your E3 conference. Want to spent time talking about PS3 and PSN? Fine. But the vast bulk of your show should be about the Vita. Neither the PS3 or PSN needed the push and attention that the Vita needs right now.
The fact that it took a massive PR blunder for them to even begin realize this very basic concept is downright pathetic, and, quite frankly, concerning when you realize these same people will be responsible for the PS4/Orbis.
They announced Call of Duty last year, and in an entire year added a subtitle. Bravo.
We already knew about AC3, but yes, they announced one decent game. Bravo.
WHY? they are getting murdered by the original psp and the all mighty 3ds. That logic is beyond backwards.
