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London 2012 Summer Olympics |OT2|

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Zaph said:
FYI fellow Brits: the BBC is also funded by advertisements. If you visit any of the BBC websites from outside the UK you will see ads. Their channels outside the UK (e.g. BBC America) are also funded by ads. They also license their shows to commercial networks within the UK.

So saying that the BBC is not a commercial network isn't entirely true. We just don't see it because of our licence fee.
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Also to American networks. Actually PBS and the BBC (and channel 4) often work together for programming. PBS has aired things like Dr. Who, Fawlty Towers, Benny Hill Show, Keeping up Appearances etc.
 
RivalCore said:
Didn't they do similar coverage for Beijing?
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There do quite nice coverage but not like many or every sports. Just every GB and big game. (I'm not sure the webpage. But it using 4 or 5 channels)

But of course 2012 is alien technology, I love timeline and chapters.
 
My favourite Katarina Johnson-Thompson moment has to be when she was announced for the hurdles this morning

You could see she was genuinely overwhelmed by the reception and her reaction was priceless
 
mclem said:
I assume that the open water marathon swimming also counts as swimming (that is, I assume that prediction wasn't limited to the events in the Aquatics Centre), and I think we have reasonable medal chances in that.

Adlington for Strictly! C'mon, that must happen!
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Oh yeah, that'd make it 5 then.

Adlington is lovely (Watching olympics tonight)
 
iceatcs said:
There do quite nice coverage but not like many or every sports. Just every GB and big game. (I'm not sure the webpage. But it using 4 or 5 channels)

But of course 2012 is alien technology, I love timeline and chapters.
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I imagine after how great their coverage of 2012 has been, they'd be doing themselves and their viewers a disservice by not having the same standard for 2016.

Also I want statistics. How kilometres of cables have been used, how many camera, how many bottles of water consumed etc. Give it to me BBC!
 
RivalCore said:
If they were going to revoke it, they would have. They didn't have any issues DQing the UK female sprinters who were topped to win a gold, so they're not playing favourites.
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I can't think of any other reason for them not to revoke it, what he did is even worse than the badminton players, utterly shameless.
 
The BBC *need* to get Ian Thorpe in every Olympics. They're already doing great stuff with Michael Johnson, and Thorpe is shaping up as similarly awesome. Great banter as well as good punditry.
 
Good Job Bob said:
I can't think of any other reason for them not to revoke it, what he did is even worse than the badminton players, utterly shameless.
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1) There's nothing in the rules to stop intentional falls/crashes.

2) There is no proof to suggest that it was intentional. Unlike Badmington, it actually looked real, it looked like there was something wrong with the bike.
The only "proof" was what he said, which was in extremely poor english, and which he revoked later on.


I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but there are other reasons other than it being the host nation.
 
Jeff Albertson said:
My favourite Katarina Johnson-Thompson moment has to be when she was announced for the hurdles this morning

You could see she was genuinely overwhelmed by the reception and her reaction was priceless
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Yeah, she's probably still struggling to believe it, I know I would be if I was competing in the Olympics in my home country at 19. Which just makes me feel old and untalented, haha.
 
Assuming he really did do it (and I'm not convinced it wasn't utterly shit German humour from a non native speaker), it's really no different to those endgame fouls people were calling for in the basketball.

It's against the spirit of the game, sure... but it's legal, and commonplace.
 
Good Job Bob said:
I can't think of any other reason for them not to revoke it, what he did is even worse than the badminton players, utterly shameless.
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Oh, you're still going on about that are you? The IOC have already commented on it and have said they're not going to do anything. It happens in Cycling but because you weren't aware of it before now you think it is outrageous? Tough shit.
 
RivalCore said:
I imagine after how great their coverage of 2012 has been, they'd be doing themselves and their viewers a disservice by not having the same standard for 2016.
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I think you're underestimating just how many boring fucks there are out there who are so fiercely opposed to the BBC spending so much of "their" money on these Olympics.

Obviously, the BBC are fully right and brilliant to have this much coverage for 2012, but they'd probably have a hard time justifying the same sort of immense operation for a non-home Games in 2016.

On the other hand, it's four years away - who knows where technology will be there.
 
LizardKing said:
Don't worry he doesn't know what he's talking about with the US channels either. NBC, CBS, ABC, and FOX are not subscription or "basic cable" based (except the cable extensions like msnbc etc). They are ad based. They are commercial and not non profit like the BBC. PBS is also non profit, and is a PUBLIC broadcasting company, funded by about half donations/grants from individuals and companies, the rest government backed.

However, PBS doesn't own it's station affiliates. It's affiliates pay PBS to put certain broadcasting on the air and PBS acts as a body to acquire the programming and distribute it to it's affiliates. But because these stations pay PBS for the broadcasting, they for the most part can choose what they air and don't have to answer to PBS that much. Therefore the programming is part national and part local (like depending on the city local).

So really, the reason the "American Equivalent" of PBS confused people so much was because there really isn't one. PBS is the closest as far as it's public, but it doesn't have near the size or funding of the BBC or CBC, it's funded in different ways(the affiliates paying them), and they do not own their partner broadcasting stations.

edit: I wasn't completely clear on the funding so to be clear it goes.... Donations to local affiliates by business/people > affiliates pay PBS for the programming that PBS acquires (way #1 PBS gets money)> Government also funds part of it (Way #2 PBS gets money).
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Quoting for pretty good explanation of american channels

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_network#United_States
 
Good Job Bob said:
Are their rules against what the Badminton players did?
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Pretty sure match fixing is against the rules, yes. Also they made a mockery of the sport and completely screwed over the crowd who'd paid for their tickets.

I don't know enough about cycling to really comment on how bad the crash thing was and I'm guessing you don't either. But then you're just trolling, so whatever.
 
Good Job Bob said:
Oh okay, the IOC is always right, of course.
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The French coach has also commentated on it (the one who coaches the professional cycling team that GB competed against in that race) and has said that although the rules should probably change, there is nothing wrong with what Hindes did and it often happens in Cycling.

You seem awfully similar to Korey right now, enough for me to think you and he are one and the same.
 
PaulLFC said:
With her and KJT, I think we must have the best looking womens heptathlon team.
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and don't forget Hazel

u lucky bastids.

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mmm mmm mmm
 
Air Zombie Meat said:
Pretty sure match fixing is against the rules. Also they made a mockery of the sport and completely screwed over the crowd who'd paid for their tickets.

I don't know enough about cycling to really comment on how bad the crash thing was and I'm guessing you don't either. But then you're just trolling, so whatever.
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They're the same thing. They were punished for unsportsmanlike conduct. "Screwing over the crowd who paid for their tickets" is not in the rules and is irrelevant.

They're both examples of things you shouldn't do and should be frowned upon even by their home nations. For example, China immediately spoke out against their own players saying they were disappointed that they did that. Americans would also be disappointed and immediately disown any athlete that did something like that. Not so with some English people, which is something to think about.
 
Korey said:
They're the same thing. They were punished for unsportsmanlike conduct. "Screwing over the crowd who paid for their tickets" is not in the rules.

They're both examples of things you shouldn't do and should be frowned upon even by their home nations. For example, China immediately spoke out against their own players saying they were disappointed that they did that. Not so with some English people, which is something to think about.
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lol ok. Like I'm going to seriously respond to you of all people.

Apologies for taking the bait everyone else.
 
reggieandTFE said:
I haven't been following this thread. Are people upset that the one British cycling team admitted to crashing to keep from following behind?
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The only ones who are really upset are those who have only just been exposed to the sport because of these Olympics, since they don't understand it they basically just want to make the rules up themselves. If there was an issue over how it played out, the French would have made a complaint straight away. As it were, the British team didn't break any rules, the French said it was part of the sport and they got on with restarting the race.

In the end, only those looking at the medal table with no interest in the sports are the ones who are looking for any excuse.
 
Korey said:
They're the same thing. They were punished for unsportsmanlike conduct. "Screwing over the crowd who paid for their tickets" is not in the rules and is irrelevant.

They're both examples of things you shouldn't do and should be frowned upon even by their home nations. For example, China immediately spoke out against their own players saying they were disappointed that they did that. Americans would also be disappointed and immediately disown any athlete that did something like that. Not so with some English people, which is something to think about.
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I really shouldn't respond to you, but meh - they are not the same. One is apparent match fixing, the other is not. The end.
 
Korey said:
They're the same thing. They were punished for unsportsmanlike conduct. "Screwing over the crowd who paid for their tickets" is not in the rules and is irrelevant.

They're both examples of things you shouldn't do and should be frowned upon even by their home nations. For example, China immediately spoke out against their own players saying they were disappointed that they did that. Americans would also be disappointed and immediately disown any athlete that did something like that. Not so with some English people, which is something to think about.
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You have such a hard-on for GB, it's almost cute.
 
Korey said:
They're the same thing. They were punished for unsportsmanlike conduct. "Screwing over the crowd who paid for their tickets" is not in the rules and is irrelevant.

They're both examples of things you shouldn't do and should be frowned upon even by their home nations. For example, China immediately spoke out against their own players saying they were disappointed that they did that. Americans would also be disappointed and immediately disown any athlete that did something like that. Not so with some English people, which is something to think about.
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Korey, why do you have such a problem with the UK (specifically England)? Is this an act or have you been slighted in some way in the past?
 
Korey said:
They're the same thing. They were punished for unsportsmanlike conduct. "Screwing over the crowd who paid for their tickets" is not in the rules and is irrelevant.

They're both examples of things you shouldn't do and should be frowned upon even by their home nations. For example, China immediately spoke out against their own players saying they were disappointed that they did that. Americans would also be disappointed and immediately disown any athlete that did something like that. Not so with some English people, which is something to think about.
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Why do you care about track cycling?

I mean I'm assuming Americans don't care about it seeing as they haven't won anything in it...
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
Korey, why do you have such a problem with the UK (specifically England)? Is this an act or have you been slighted in some way in the past?
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It's an act, he knows that a good percentage of UK Gaf will bite as we are hosting.

I mean I'm assuming Americans don't care about it seeing as they haven't won anything in it...
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According to Korey they are only no1 in "things they care about", so I assume they care little for income equality, social mobility, standard of living and the like.
 
Isn't Korey just playing the pro-American heel in this thread? You're not going to get anything substantive out of a gimmick.
 
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