GoofsterStud
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It's nice to find a way to pat yourself on the back... I would love to see this PSV software brilliance.
Sony's software brilliance still isn't enough ( gamesindustry.biz )
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I don't understand your post but, what I was trying to say was that whenever my PS1/PS2 broke, I had to pay. With MS, they paid shipping, handling and repairs and I also got some points or a game thrown in so too me, yes they handled that well.
The current line up is one of the best launch line ups in the game.
CambriaRising
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Had my launch ps2 fixed for free in 2003 with a DRE. I've had three separate 360s RROD, one of them twice. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much.
"You know, things break."
Wow, thats insanity. I disagree with almost everything you have said here, but I have a feeling you will be around longer than him.
My point stands that the new Sony is much better as compared to the Sony in 2006.
They have made good decisions with the PS3 and it will help them in the long run.
Most of points people bringing here were once true or is just blatant trolling.
Uhm, okay?
CambriaRising
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My point is that for most people the RROD is absolutely inexcusable and was not handled well at all. Especially at first.
"You know, things break" is a quote from Peter Moore when he was with MS trying to downplay the issue.
Daydream Sequence
Banned
I received more hate mail from him stating I misrepresented him. He's right, he didn't specifically say he would personally do it, he said:
"Enjoy being followed from thread to thread till you eventually shoot yourself in the foot and get banned."
Also called me some rather choice names sprinkled liberally with expletives. I don't think we should be sending each other PMs such as this. It's not very civil, not to mention downright depressing as a gamer that if you state an opinion that someone else disagrees with they spew venom at you as if you'd just insulted a loved one. I don't get it.
I think it's still OK to legitimately question Sony's vision lately because of the Vita. Releasing it at that price with no memory cards is pretty absurd, especially when you consider that most games wont even play if you dont have a memory card installed. It's no longer the dumbest thing I've seen though, because Nintendo recently followed that up by selling the XL in Europe without a means to charge the thing. Maybe I'm just completely out of touch with "regular" consumers, but it seems to me stuff like that would rub them the wrong way.
I didn't say it was excusable, I said they handled it well. I know where the quote came from but if we're going to start pulling out quotes that didn't vibe well with the consumer then Sony definately takes that cake.
Anyway, time to break in my new arcade stick.
This post is so ironic.
Lets see(clears throat)
Threads like this make me SMH. Some of you(meaning a lot of you) are way to attached to try and shit on one company. Its now considered not trolling to go into every thread about Sony, regardless of the subject and post the same unrelated and biased drivel and try to quantify it by the fact that you supposedly own one of their products? Also why do you care if someone has a positive opinion of the Amazingly Shitty Sony? Do you work for MS? Do you have shares in them? Or are you just a troll?
Every Sony thread lately this happens. What is wrong with you people?
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Spare me the BS please.
CambriaRising
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Well of course.
I honestly feel this is their biggest problem. They can make the most brilliant games in the world but that won't mean much if they don't advertise it properly.
Yeah! He's right! I want my 2006 Ferrari f430 at the mass market price. It's 6 years old damnit!
Ridiculous claim. The market will dictate the price. If people stop buying at the price Sony is asking for it, they will correct it. If they don't, they dig their own grave. It seems that they are quite satisfied at the current price point though. I believe that they will adjust it at TGS or maybe at E3.
CambriaRising
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They all are, it's getting ridiculous. All of the consoles should be at he $150 price point by now.
Too many AA IPs and not enough AAA IPs. They're throwing everything at the wall to see what will stick and become their Halo or what have you.
Their exclusive software library is mighty impressive and diverse though, much more so than their competitors, it just doesn't seem to bring the same return with rising development costs.
Their exclusive software library is mighty impressive and diverse though, much more so than their competitors, it just doesn't seem to bring the same return with rising development costs.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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If Zonda R is at the mass market price, your Ferrari better be as well.
proof?
lol @ everyone hating on Daydream Sequence. The man speaks the truth, people.
This whole experience reminds me of the Dreamcast situation just before Sega pulled the plug. Man, we Sega fans cried bitter tears, let me tell you. But life goes on. I'm sitting in my office. I have a Saturn permanently connected to a small CRT TV in the corner of the room. Turning it on gives me a warm feeling. But I don't dwell on the past and what might have been. Just move on. Enjoy what you got out of Sony but realise that it is probably over.
Nintendo, OUYA and likely Microsoft will be around next gen. Take your pick. Continue having fun. Don't get caught up emotionally. Hardware makers come and go. It's how this industry works.
This whole experience reminds me of the Dreamcast situation just before Sega pulled the plug. Man, we Sega fans cried bitter tears, let me tell you. But life goes on. I'm sitting in my office. I have a Saturn permanently connected to a small CRT TV in the corner of the room. Turning it on gives me a warm feeling. But I don't dwell on the past and what might have been. Just move on. Enjoy what you got out of Sony but realise that it is probably over.
Nintendo, OUYA and likely Microsoft will be around next gen. Take your pick. Continue having fun. Don't get caught up emotionally. Hardware makers come and go. It's how this industry works.
dragonelite
Member
I personally feel the same about sony ip.
I bought the ps3 for killzone and uncharted franchise which i consider sony's halo,gears so to speak as in AAA quality.
But i just sold my ps3 not really interested in upcoming titles. Only reason i still have a 360 is because im a big halo fan and with halo 4 coming out this year im not selling it yet depends how long i can keep playing halo 4 on and off. And the other exclusive titles their are better multiplat titles that excel at what they do.
BTW im done with this gen for 2 years already.
/Come on next gen please next year.
The Buggatti as well...
Did you just count Sony out for next gen? Why so silly?
graywolf323
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you think Ouya will survive over Sony?
First time ever i've being called a Microsoft fanboy. I own everything and i shit on everyone equally, even Valve, Apple and the big 3 console makers. I hold no alliance to any company, soon as i do i loose as a consumer and gamer. I'm master race brother.
H_Prestige
Banned
What brilliance? Their only brilliant piece of software is GT. Everything else is either half assed (LBP is a garbage platformer) or some linear movie style "game" that's immediately forgotten.
BoilersFan23
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If I remember correctly last gen, R&C games barely sold well enough to become GH games. Once they became GH games, that's when sales started going up because many people are cheap (want to buy $20 games). That's the way most SCEA games got sales in NA that weren't SOCOM, God of War, etc.
Captain Tuttle
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goddamn this thread.
Brofist
Member
And that's GT5's sales after one year. It's always been known as a series with extremely long legs. In 2010 GT4 finally surpassed GT1 as the best second best selling game in these series.
Legs or not I doubt it reaches even GT2 numbers.
Jesus Christ people!
Why don't you all just bring back your Sony Defense Force avatars and get it over with.
This shit is getting beyond annoying.
"Oh, no something negative is posted about Sony! Let's all cling together and attack everyone and everything we don't like in the name of our lord and saviour!"
SMH
Why don't you all just bring back your Sony Defense Force avatars and get it over with.
This shit is getting beyond annoying.
"Oh, no something negative is posted about Sony! Let's all cling together and attack everyone and everything we don't like in the name of our lord and saviour!"
SMH
IN AMERICA, how do you not see your repeated fault throughout your entire post.
The world is much much bigger than America, and in worldwide sales yes all these games stand toe-to-toe
I fail to see how Sony make brilliant software imo, Resistance, Killzone, Infamous are all average at best with Infamous being above average. There are way better alternatives to most of the games they have made this gen.
For me the only truly great exclusives they have put out are Valkryia Chronicles which was done by a 3rd party, and Ratchet and Clank A Crack in Time. Demons Souls is probably the best out of the lot.
For me the only truly great exclusives they have put out are Valkryia Chronicles which was done by a 3rd party, and Ratchet and Clank A Crack in Time. Demons Souls is probably the best out of the lot.
Posts like this are annoying to.
"Why doesn't anybody let us shit up every Sony thread?"
Well that would be your opinion. There are alot of people who feel the opposite...
You're one of the worst offenders as of late, so I don't think you're one to pass judgement.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I'd love for there to be custom soundtracks for every PS3 game, but that's not really Sony's fault. The function is built into the SDK, so it's up to developers to include it, but since it isn't mandated as a must-have by Sony, no one's going to bother, unfortunately. Same goes for the screenshot function (I'm not sure if there's a YouTube function/video recording function too in the SDK).
As for Sony, Daydream Sequence is right, unfortunately. Sony's biggest problem is them being Sony. They messed up with the PS3 launch which cost them valuable market share in the US, their marketing has been hit or miss this gen, their first party lineup is great IMO, but it doesn't sell to the NA audience, and the Vita is currently flaundering as it is a product that there just isn't any market left for (Nintendo gobbled up the dedicated handheld market, and iOS and Android are ruling the more casually oriented handheld gaming market). Sony needs to take a long, hard look at how they messed up the PS3 and PSV before they launch the PS4.
shinra-bansho
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The problem of warring fiefdoms has never been a Sony exclusive. They don't have an operating system and enterprise software business to fall back on though and their historic bread and butter - televisions - have been commoditized, while other consumer electronics have been Appled.
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Sony's biggest IP, Gran Turismo, although its star has waned somewhat, sells more than several Nintendo IPs and pretty much any Microsoft published property not titled Halo. It's not a character driven property though - ergo it's unlikely to generate any sort of cultural icon.
God of War is their next most established franchise. While they're trying to build the Uncharted franchise to a similar level.
But the masses don't really give a shit about Cole McGrath. Any more than they do about Alan Wake or Pikmin.
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Odd. Infamous has some sort of relevancy to the masses?
Sony's biggest IP, Gran Turismo, although its star has waned somewhat, sells more than several Nintendo IPs and pretty much any Microsoft published property not titled Halo. It's not a character driven property though - ergo it's unlikely to generate any sort of cultural icon.
God of War is their next most established franchise. While they're trying to build the Uncharted franchise to a similar level.
But the masses don't really give a shit about Cole McGrath. Any more than they do about Alan Wake or Pikmin.
Dion Blaster
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I know it's your opinion but i highly doubt UC2 will EVER be looked back on in the same light that OoT is. What exactly did the game innovate? Becoming more like a movie? Witty dialogue? Automated platforming?
Kenshin001
Member
You kind of ignored their highest rated games there.
I will admit that I've been feeding the trolls in a sense but its pretty fucking annoying to see the same group of posters trying to shit up and downplay anything that comes from a certain company.
Comparing UC2 to OoT is not possible. Two completely different games set out to do completely different things. A game need not be looked back fondly solely based on whether it innovated in any area. It will be looked upon with fondness if it is a damn good game. UC2 is one of the greatest games of this gen and will always be looked upon that way.
I don't put much faith in games journalists or metacritic to be honest.
Thats some sound logic you got there.
Thats only a section of GAF. Neither the press nor the fans judging by the consistent review scores and sales. UC2 would have got the same scores if not more if it were released today. Why? Because it is just a brilliant game with some of the best pacing in any game ever released this gen.
Captain Tuttle
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Perhaps you should take a break from the Gaming side for a bit. I know that I have to every once in awhile.
This is the key for me.
Making a bunch of mediocre to ok games with small chunks of super fans doesn't mean the software is brilliant.
Basically every disc based franchise Sony makes has a much more polished third party game in the same genre.
Some of the PSN stuff I could see being called brilliant and original even if many of the more well liked games on Gaf aren't my cup of tea.
Dion Blaster
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I know there's really no possible answer to this debate unless someone has a time machine. I just doubt games like Uncharted that rely heavily on presentation will be as fondly looked upon as time goes on. Graphics get better and better, I'm sure there will be a better looking version of the formula next gen and the gen after. What is left to hold onto after that? It's a great game I just have my doubts.