MarshMellow96
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Yes, that's what I was talking about. Perhaps I should get him to edit my posts...
Press Reset: The Story of Polygon - financed by Microsoft for $750,000
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Yes, that's what I was talking about. Perhaps I should get him to edit my posts...
Oh I see, I thought you thought they were actual comments. Since the other people in the thread linked to the review I just thought everyone thought that, apologies!
The_Darkest_Red
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Your take on this stuff is always one of my favorites, eznark. Always gets a good smile out of me, haha.
DangerStepp
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<3 MangodShane Bettenhausen said:
When the guy said "I reviewed FF13 and only had 4 days to do it" I find that unprofessional. You are rushing through the game just to get coverage up early. Yeah, 4 days isn't much time for an RPG but take some time with the game, play it, and get a fuller experience out of it. Rushing through it just makes me wonder how much you missed.
Don't really know his work but has a Twin Peaks background on his Twitter which makes him awesome instantly.
Is that Griffin's fault, though? Seems like it is just a deadline set by the editor as well as when he got his review copy.
MiniBossBattle
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lol now Justin McElroy say they don't have control of their documentary about what their site or themselves are about which was made to promote who they are and what their site is about.
I'm not saying the author is unprofessional, just the act itself.
Felix Lighter
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Retaliating hard against Jeff Green on Twitter about that comment really is great way to get people on your side.
They must have cleaned up the comments. I don't see any comments that you would see on IGN or GameTrailers.
She uses "The thing" or a variation thereof 3 out of 9 comments. Clearly, she is the opposite of a lexicomane!
Pretty good involvement by the staff in their own comment section. I feel like that doesn't happen very often on gaming sites. That will probably diminish if they get their own site and/or become more popular.
Backfoggen
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The Twitter defensiveness is turning me off from wanting to read anything from these dudes tbh.
DangerStepp
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This:
Chuckle about it, be happy Black Dragon bothered to watch your pathetic self-documentary and get back to the prison life of reviewing games as you portray it.
Also, he's LiquidSwords on GAF.
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I honestly don't understand what they're being so defensive about.
Chuckle about it, be happy Black Dragon bothered to watch your pathetic self-documentary and get back to the prison life of reviewing games as you portray it.
He used to write for EGM/1up; he's legendary around these parts.
Also, he's LiquidSwords on GAF.
ThatObviousUser
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What are you doooing Phil. You used to be cool. 
Felix Lighter
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Is Jeff Green going to be on Tested's Octobercast? I really want someone to bring this up so I can hear him talk about it. He comes off as the nicest, funniest, most grounded person in the gaming industry. Attacking him publicly for that little jab is beyond stupid.
YianGaruga
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I don't think there's a single person out there who hates Jeff Green. He's like everyone's cool dad who still plays videogames.
DangerStepp
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I'm waiting on Shawn Elliott's thoughts on this.
Would LOVE to hear him talk about it.
Would LOVE to hear him talk about it.
I wonder if at this point they actually believe the image that they're trying to sell, or if they feel trapped by it and feel like they need to continue to put up a front. The GAF hivemind can never be assumed to be accurate so sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy if I agree with it. But seeing them continued to get called out by other people and friends in the industry and press seems to vindicate it in this case.
It's been a long time since I've seen a group of people so (seemingly) out of touch. No idea why they aren't being told to keep it on the downlow on Twitter. I'd think management would be telling them to do so, but maybe management is oblivious as well, or maybe they think it's a good idea. It's certainly getting them attention they wouldn't otherwise be getting, but the only people aware of any of this going on are more savvy folks who are walking away with a largely negative reaction. This whole thing is just increasingly bizarre to me. Who knows, maybe it'll work out for them. Personally their continued super defensiveness on twitter has me actively disliking the last two people at that site that I actually liked. Sad times man.
It's been a long time since I've seen a group of people so (seemingly) out of touch. No idea why they aren't being told to keep it on the downlow on Twitter. I'd think management would be telling them to do so, but maybe management is oblivious as well, or maybe they think it's a good idea. It's certainly getting them attention they wouldn't otherwise be getting, but the only people aware of any of this going on are more savvy folks who are walking away with a largely negative reaction. This whole thing is just increasingly bizarre to me. Who knows, maybe it'll work out for them. Personally their continued super defensiveness on twitter has me actively disliking the last two people at that site that I actually liked. Sad times man.
Heh, you must have only recently become aware of their twitter accounts if it's botherin you now.
famousmortimer
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Serious business.
What are you doooing Phil. You used to be cool.
Phil is still cool in my book, but this documentary is silly.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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Wait, are these guys actually complaining about having to play a lot of games for a living?
Serious business.
Regardless of any context for that video, that is going to haunt him until the end of days.
Y'know, what's weird is that besides Matt Leone, I was going to say that Justin McElroy seems like the only person from Polygon that isn't acting like a total asshat about all this, and has a sense of humor about his job. Then I saw
"As long as other people's careers and futures are affected by game reviews, I'll keep taking them seriously."
and remembered...
It just doesn't add up. I've gone from being somewhat optimistic (albeit reluctantly so) about Polygon to now actively disliking them. They already have no respect for any potential audience, so certain that they're so great they'll succeed regardless apparently, yet bemoan the possibility that their careers are on the line, and all at the same time even ignoring EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR PEERS about their tone.
Site hasn't even launched yet and I'm already refusing to give it clicks. Great work.
ThatObviousUser
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Ok, then I must have read some stuff of him, but I simply don't remember. But if he posts on GAF (especially with a name that reminds me of a GZA record) I'll probably run into him some day
I don't get stuff like that either. They pretend to do something different than the other gamingpress and then you watch episode 6 in which a lot of Sony people lose their jobs and you see this guy cursing because Kotaku has the scoop.. it just comes across as regular gaming journalism. Nothing necesarily wrong with that but damn, these guys really think they are doing something unique which isn't what they are doing. They are just regular video game journalists writing on a nice looking blog.
Jeff ran a game magazine for years during the time when magazines were the most relevant form of media for the industry. Phil Kollar just looks silly trying to push back at him.
Serious business.
Heh, I see we were both thinking the same thing. Kudos on the brevity.
ThatObviousUser
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I know him from the excellent GFW magazine. Fantastic writer, good sense of humor.
Getting so defensive about a video series they didn't want or ask for in the first place is what's so hilarious to me
What are you doooing Phil. You used to be cool.
The extreme stress and intense pressure of reviewing games finally made him crack. Phil needs a lower stress position. Maybe air traffic controller or something.
Delusibeta
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Well, it appears that Polygon has learnt nothing in the whole ordeal. Enjoy your website's failure, folks!
And for the benefit of people reading this thread in the future: yes, he did say that.
And for the benefit of people reading this thread in the future: yes, he did say that.
ThatObviousUser
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I believe it. Microsoft probably has full control, which doesn't really bode well for the actual site.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Green_(writer)#Games_for_Windows:_The_Official_Magazine
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DangerStepp
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It's a good thing McElroy doesn't follow @britishgaming who had the best comment about the original trailer.
https://twitter.com/britishgaming/status/238676417456529409
That is what I'm thinking. Very pleasing design and back-end.
The folks working there...good god. Cringe.
So I guess
I could see someone complaining about doing reviews and all the bullshit that goes along with being video game enthusiast press, because there's a lot of it. I could see being serious about this and talking earnestly about wanting to change the industry and do things differently and make things better, because all that shit needs to happen badly.
But that puts a huge burden on them to fucking follow through and not just make Kotaku 2.0. It means that they can't have it both ways by harping on the evils of other game sites and doing all the same things.
Given the staff they have and the things they've been doing and saying since they all started working there I don't believe for a second that they'll be any different.
He proceeded to joke about that review for weeks as well.
ThatObviousUser
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This can't be real.
Hahahaha, nice.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Oh my God.
To think somebody somewhere is actually making money off of this shitfest.
To think somebody somewhere is actually making money off of this shitfest.
DangerStepp
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WHOA. I forgot about that!
It's pretty hard to escape your own BS in the technological world.
You'd have to be into games writing circle-tugs.
Which is what this is.
That's pretty much what I'm looking forward to the most--pleasing design with quick access to news I care about.
As for the people (and currently watching the last video in this "documentary" atm) that leaves something to be desired.
I have faith and I'm certainly going to give it a go.
Oh, it is 100% real.
TheSpoiler
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Well, I know what I'm parodying next week.
It almost writes itself. Almost.
It almost writes itself. Almost.
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