Blake'sGrave
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If I hear the words "Magic of Kinect" shit's gonna go down.
I expect shit to go down.
I expect shit to go down.
Microsoft Conference: Will they Bring It Like Sony Did?
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Oh, man. I'm eating popcorn right now.
What if I'm tired of FPS? Do I have to watch myself about that too?
You love Halo, sure we get it and that's your opinion, but what if some of us don't care about that game/genre?
I was skimming through this thread at work and your comment made me bust out laughing. Thank you.
But none of that is exactly new, both from Siri starting the trend to Google sort of perfecting the recognition and speed. That's not a system seller, or something that makes me as a gamer interested.
And again, really don't see the majority of people talking to their TV as the means to their PRIMARY navigational input.
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It shouldnt be hard for MS to out do PS4 bexause outside of the 8Gb if GDDR5 RAM Sony had nothing real only promises.
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It's rather new at your home, and you could potentially use it for great many things, but regardless, that would be just one of the features.
And yes, I definitely see the majority of people preferring talking to their TV as their primary navigational input. Why not? Is it simpler and more intuitive to remember where each of the many channels is stored and then manually type in the numbers or just say "Xbox, change to [name of the channel]"?
as far as I can tell 720 is akin to what I saw in a episode of Black Mirror (15 Million Merits) and I can't fathom how in glorious entertainment Hell they can make a show about hardcore games and Kinect 2 entertainment that meshes well.
Hopefully 1st reveal will be about the games, the infrastructure, the controller, the box.
E3 will be about the playable games and some exclusives.
Kinect 2 best advertising is that it should work, it should actually serve the purpose of navigating with ease and have smart voice controls etc...
If MS is willing to massively market a Kinect 2 game, I'll say FUCK.
they better have F2P Halo next-Gen MP on day 1 rather than sell me on Kinect 2 gaming.
There will be Dance Central 4 or spirtual successor, and it's all I care about.
Hopefully 1st reveal will be about the games, the infrastructure, the controller, the box.
E3 will be about the playable games and some exclusives.
Kinect 2 best advertising is that it should work, it should actually serve the purpose of navigating with ease and have smart voice controls etc...
If MS is willing to massively market a Kinect 2 game, I'll say FUCK.
they better have F2P Halo next-Gen MP on day 1 rather than sell me on Kinect 2 gaming.
There will be Dance Central 4 or spirtual successor, and it's all I care about.
Xbudz
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Not acceptable.
I don't think they'll bring him out, he was essentially fired, it would be pretty strange to have your frontman someone who was deemed not sufficient by your competition. Not impossible of course, but I think it's unlikely. He is a good public speaker though.
digoutyoursoul
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The Kinect hardware itself sold well but didn't the software (perhaps apart from the Dance Central series apart) sell from average to very poor?
Kos Luftar
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I have a feeling that steam box and next Xbox are the same thing.
schwabdizzle
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I don't think MS will go after the Core Gamers like Sony did, because their system is not the as powerful. I think they are going to try to attacker a much more broader audience.
Alx
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With all the kind words Gabe Newell had for Microsoft, I really doubt it.
But then, it wouldn't be the first time he changes his allegiance.
I still think it's impossible.
That's crazy talk. Valve want to kill Windows.
Good luck with that one Valve.
Fable IV is coming whether you want it or not. Fable III sold really well, and I doubt that The Journey had any real impact on Microsoft's plans for the series.
Personally, I'd like them to continue the franchise. I thought that Fable III was a flawed, but fun game. They should focus on their new IP first though.
Devilgunman
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Yeah, MS is killing Windows by themselves.
I don't think that MS will kill Fable since it's still selling pretty good but Lionhead is supposedly working on a new IP, that being said I fully agree that Fable needs a major overhaul/reboot.
Back on topic Sony's show was decent overall...hardware, OS, features sound great but the games they showed were underwhelming, especially considering the hype and their attitude pre-show ("Oh, Yay Another Mario Game." and then they showed a Killzone spin-off, seriously?).
In other words I think it will be easy to top Sony's event games wise, the question is are they interested in such a thing? it's really hard to predict MS at this point.
That means they'll be on par with Sony
Or a Kinect only game more likely.
BurnOutBrighter
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Only if they show some mindblowing new IP.
MS can't win on hardware specs. What would they say, 12GB of GDDR? That'd be overkill.
MS can't win on hardware specs. What would they say, 12GB of GDDR? That'd be overkill.
it'll be competitive.
While MS might want to push kinect and services, they know they need good core games in the first few years to get the momentum going, and will support that with strong investment.
they ramped down first party investment in recent years because third parties were keeping up the necessary hardware sales and internal investment wasn't needed at that level. Next gen will reset that and they will invest strongly again until they don't need to.
where they put services will be interesting. Where sony was all about gamers sharing moments, thats perhaps where MS will emphasise media and connectivity - in the ethos of the machine
but everything will be underlined with great games that look fantastic.
While MS might want to push kinect and services, they know they need good core games in the first few years to get the momentum going, and will support that with strong investment.
they ramped down first party investment in recent years because third parties were keeping up the necessary hardware sales and internal investment wasn't needed at that level. Next gen will reset that and they will invest strongly again until they don't need to.
where they put services will be interesting. Where sony was all about gamers sharing moments, thats perhaps where MS will emphasise media and connectivity - in the ethos of the machine
but everything will be underlined with great games that look fantastic.
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Some sold well, some not so well. The Kinect Sports series is well over 6 million, and Kinect Star Wars is at 1.26 million. I don't know if we have reliable figures for any other title.
Of course, Kinect Adventures is at 24 million, but it was a pack-in. Still, apart from Hexic, that's the single game that ended up in most Xbox 360 owners' hands. Let that sink in.
Some people really liked it, others didn't. As with most Kinect games, your enjoyment will vary depending on whether the camera can work correctly in your home environment, and whether it's been properly calibrated.
AuthenticM
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I really hope that rumor about their console running the Windows 8 kernel proves to be false, unless it has more than 8GBs of RAM to make up for it.
They can talk about Kinect, but it needs to be super brief. Like, at most 15 minutes. They need to announce that Xbox Live Gold is no longer required for online play and that services such as Netflix and Hulu are no longer hidden behind a paywall. And lastly, they need to bring in the games.
If they can pull all of the above, then they will be on par with the Sony conference. If they want to surpass it, they need to fucking surprise me.
They can talk about Kinect, but it needs to be super brief. Like, at most 15 minutes. They need to announce that Xbox Live Gold is no longer required for online play and that services such as Netflix and Hulu are no longer hidden behind a paywall. And lastly, they need to bring in the games.
If they can pull all of the above, then they will be on par with the Sony conference. If they want to surpass it, they need to fucking surprise me.
Hit the nail on the head.
I haven't been a 360 owner since my original system red-ringed back in '06, but I'm willing to consider the successor if Microsoft prices the new system competitively.
As to Kinect 2.0, maybe they'll show Sega's Crimson Dragon. I love anything even tangentially related to Panzer Dragoon!
As to Kinect 2.0, maybe they'll show Sega's Crimson Dragon. I love anything even tangentially related to Panzer Dragoon!
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As opposed to the massive amount of IPs that sony displayed?
I love how negative everyone is before anything has even been displayed.
The Sony conference looked great - Killzone looked amazing and i cant wait to see more.
Im sure the Microsoft stuff will look cool too - i hope they show Kinect's use for Illumiroom as that was really impressive.
Flakster99
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I expect a bare bones affair. A glimpse into their media/services/social network. A few demos, vertical slices, loads of hype, countless promises.
Sony didn't do all that much, therefore I don't expect Microsoft to do all that much either and save their big guns for E3.
Sony didn't do all that much, therefore I don't expect Microsoft to do all that much either and save their big guns for E3.
If people genuinely consider that Sony 'Brought it' then all Microsoft have to do is come out with a load of hyperbole too and little gaming content and that'll seemingly please the easily impressed.
Apart from the new features I thought Sony's conference was very turgid and very light on games I'd bother playing let alone buying a new console for.
Apart from the new features I thought Sony's conference was very turgid and very light on games I'd bother playing let alone buying a new console for.
I expect MS and Sony's systems to be very similar at their core, with different online bells and whistles to differentiate them.
Both companies have too much to lose by making ports difficult. They are competing, of course. But they also need each other -- nobody wants to be the odd man out missing ports.
Both companies have too much to lose by making ports difficult. They are competing, of course. But they also need each other -- nobody wants to be the odd man out missing ports.
Just look at Nintendo.
Yes, absolutely. I don't think that's a Nintendo specific thing either (that is, I don't think third parties are "picking on" Nintendo).
It is unfortunate, but if we have four major platforms on the market -- let's call them A, B, C, and D -- and A/B/C are all very similar while D is different enough that porting is difficult or expensive, then most of the time A/B/C will get the games while D is left out. Even if D sells very well.
I say this is unfortunate because it creates very strong pressure to be conformist as a hardware manufacturer. Move too far out of the "standard" and you're facing alienation by the major publishers.
Ol No Bones
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If your tired of good shooters there is always killzone out there.
Ol No Bones
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If they announce the machine specs at 9gb gddr5 it's an automatic win.
Sega has nothing to do with Crimson Dragon. It's being published by Microsoft.
I agree with what you're saying though. I'd love an upgraded version of the game for the Durango.
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That would be a dream, and it's one that has a good chance of coming true.
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I enjoyed the 360 and ps3 a lot this gen. I'm very curious about microsoft's new first part approach where they actuall have several first party studios. The ps4 conference was a little disappointing for me because of the lack of new first party content outside of sequels to franchises I don't like. Knack looked interesting and clever. Killzone looked good graphically but the game looked like garbage. Second son might be good but I never liked infamous that much. Aside from naughty dog games I don't think there is a whole lot to be excited about. If they had announced last of us ps4 version or last guardian I would have been very happy. I wouldn't call more if the same sequels and some new 3rd party stuff that will no doubt be on xbox bringing it. Ms might do the same thing with cod madden or FIFA though so who knows?
GAF would cease to exist if that was to ever happen.
You lost credibility remember? Why should we believe you?
If they want me to buy their system then they will have to do better than that. I don't care for Siri on my phone let alone a console.
I don't care for Kinect either. I want OS features that make the whole console experience more convenient. Sony seems to be doing that.
But at the end of the day it's about the games. The reason I bought a 360 was for the exclusives like Mass Effect (at the time). Microsoft has the cash to moneyhat/fund exclusives again so I expect them to do that again, however I don't think it'll be on the level of BF4 or CoD.
I have no idea :lol
The least selling Halo game, Halo 3 ODST, sold more than KZ2 and KZ3 combined. Sure you might not like it, but the millions of others will.
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