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[jbug617]

So what do we make of buttocks appearance in the thread? Is he confirming or denying?

 

[KiNeSiS]

personally i just read the thread highlights and never click any sites.

Likewise.

 

[shinobi602]

I liked it better when Kotaku was banned around these parts....

Idiots just keep making threads on their sensationalist page hit headline grabbers.

Their sources have been very reliable lately.

 

[TheRagnCajun]

It wouldn't surprise me out Sony was a little further along. They were able to reveal sooner after all, and have already spilled the beans on most of their specs.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Weren't you the guy who deliberately made all of your rumors sound as ambiguous as possible so you could take credit for information you didn't actually have?

Lord! The fangs on this one!

 

[Rebel Leader]

Their sources have been very reliable lately.

that have been verified by sources here too from reliable people,

 

[JB1981]

Acquiring 3rd Party exclusives are better than putting out crappy 1st party if the sources are right.

Agree completely. Third party games are almost always better games and a bigger draw for the average consumer

 

[watership]

It's not surprising that this little blurb in the bottom of a much larger story about Respawn, turned into a bigger thread on gaf.

 

[XtremeXpider]

If the 1.2 TF low end GPU is true, it can only be a combination of point 3 and 4.

But jaguar cpu will be used on tablets, will durango be smaller than a tablet?

 

[Domino Theory]

Well, given that The Verge leaks out Microsoft's entire product line-up, we already know a fair share of their first party launch line-up: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=538344

Hm, so...

Ryse
Zombie 720
All in the Family
Forza 5 (or PGR5)
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Assassin's Creed IV
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4
Annual sports title port 1
Annual sports title port 2
New NFS?

Looks like a solid line-up so far if true, but again, mostly third party dependent

 

[twobear]

The PS4s GDDR5 is far more power hungry than DDR3.

Well sure, but that just makes the situation more confusing, not less.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I for one am glad for places like Kotaku posting these rumours, it encourages insiders and whatnot to loosen their lips.

Spoiler

spill more pls

 

[frankie_baby]

people often forget Frontier when it comes to Kinect even though they have a hand in most of that peripherals output.



Just sounds like youre trying to shit on a parade because the positivity irks you. Low framerate in early development for a new console is like... how its always been.

how big actually are frontier though? i'd imagine most of their time and effort is on elite 4 at the moment

 

[KiNeSiS]

Shinobi I like your posts so no hard feelings I just hate how Kotaku promotes itself.
If it brings them success I guess thats all that matters.

 

[Falcs]

Durango is such a shit name. I can't wait till they reveal the final xbox name and we can forget about this stupid name.

 

[statham]

So what do we make of buttocks appearance in the thread? Is he confirming or denying?

confirming.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

It's not surprising that this little blurb in the bottom of a much larger story about Respawn, turned into a bigger thread on gaf.

6 months delay at MS which may result in a 2014 launch is much bigger news than one (unproven) I.P becoming Durango exclusive, imo.

 

[Reiko]

Well sure, but that just makes the situation more confusing, not less.

I would be surprised if the PS4 is not running into some problems with a 1.84TFLOP GPU and 8GB GDDR5...

 

[shinobi602]

Shinobi I like your posts so no hard feelings I just hate how Kotaku promotes itself.
If it brings them success I guess thats all that matters.

Thank you. Fair enough

 

[shinra-bansho]

So a précis of the thread so far:

• Kotaku says Microsoft is behind in game development; Sony are in better shape for both hardware and games
• CBOAT tacitly confirms this
• Thuway says that Microsoft is having heating issues and Ryse is janky.
• BruceLeeRoy concurs.
• Kagari vouches for thuway's reliability, after a random now banned junior account challenges.
• CBOAT says "heh" in response to a post doubting the Kotaku story - take that as you will.
• LiquidMetal14 says sources also verify this.
  
• IdeaMan claims Sony are having similar issues.
• BruceLeeRoy disputes this.
• bishoptl also disputes this.
• IdeaMan doubles down on his claim, citing same Wii U info sources.

In asides:

• Insomniac may not have PS4 development kits.
• And there's a League of Legends exclusive for Durango.

EDIT: jstevenson smacks down the Insomniac rumor.

there has been absolutely no "falling out" with Sony.

We are on great terms with them, as illustrated by us working on the Ratchet movie recently. We have had decade plus long relationships with the same people in their product development department and we enjoy working with those folks.

/thread

 

[grimshawish]

people often forget Frontier when it comes to Kinect even though they have a hand in most of that peripherals output.

I think they moved more to iOS output but they have big hiring push on their site atm...
http://www.frontier.co.uk/jobs/vacancies/cambridge_vacancies/

Currently working on a kickstarter:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous

Still think whatever Rare will be tied to the family and Kinect side of MS; maybe there will be some more 'game' type content though.

 

[Aquamarine]

6 months delay at MS which may result in a 2014 launch is much bigger news than one (unproven) I.P becoming Durango exclusive, imo.

Indeed.

 

[frankie_baby]

Hm, so...

Ryse
Zombie 720
All in the Family
Forza 5 (or PGR5)
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Assassin's Creed IV
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4
Annual sports title port 1
Annual sports title port 2
New NFS?

Looks like a solid line-up so far if true, but again, mostly third party dependent

also mostly available on last gen too

 

[Rebel Leader]

I would be surprised if the PS4 is not running into some problems with a 1.84TFLOP GPU and 8GB GDDR5...

I agree

 

[KiNeSiS]

Durango is such a shit name. I can't wait till they reveal the final xbox name and we can forget about this stupid name.

Agreed it really sucks and annoys me so I just refer to it as 720 as a placeholder.

 

[Pie and Beans]

how big actually are frontier though? i'd imagine most of their time and effort is on elite 4 at the moment

How big does Microsoft need them to be. MS just "buys" game developments wholesale. All those Kinect games were just MS throwing money at developers to support the damn thing.

Its pretty refreshing to hear they're actually reaping some shit-times after they killed off so many talented studios when they were short-sightedly "done" with them. But then they'll buy some exclusives which will sell and lessons won't have been learned.

 

[thuway]

I would be surprised if the PS4 is not running into some problems with a 1.84TFLOP GPU and 8GB GDDR5...

Sony started earlier, has some of the best hardware engineers in the industry, and is making a larger box. They haven't shown you the box as of yet.

 

[SniperHunter]

I would be surprised if the PS4 is not running into some problems with a 1.84TFLOP GPU and 8GB GDDR5...

sony engineers vs ms engineers


FIGHT!!!!!

 

[EagleBurnn]

Agreed it really sucks and annoys me so I just refer to it as 720 as a placeholder.

Nextbox
Durango
Xbox 720
Xbox Infinity

All of these placeholders only prove that we should never name a console.

 

[coldfoot]

Well sure, but that just makes the situation more confusing, not less.

What about the power requirements of 32MB EDRAM? The GDDR5, despite being power hungry, resides on the motherboard and not on the processor die so its heat is easier to dissipate.

 

[A good poster]

Their sources have been very reliable lately.

Really? Wanna give some examples?

 

[10101]

I dunno man, i know this is possible but MS having hardware problems AGAIN even after all that.... Youd think theyd hire experts or something after the first debacle. Even i have a lot of trouble believing that.

You would definitely hope they had experts working on the 360 too it not like they just throw this shit together in 10 minutes lol. Deadlines are a bitch, I work in software for a hardware company (we are very small) and we have on occasion put out dodgy stuff and fixed it in the field. It wouldn't surprise me too much if they did rush it out for the Christmas season come what may.

I share your sentiment though they really should learn from it it cost them a shit ton of money last time. Still even Thuway said it was fairly old info so it could be all good by now, who knows

 

[Izick]

Forget it. It's been said in here, and said better. Sounds fishy to me too.

 

[Reiko]

Sony started earlier, has some of the best hardware engineers in the industry, and is making a larger box. They haven't shown you the box as of yet.

That is true. But dev kits were running with smaller amounts of GDDR5 at first. I'm very curious to see the final result.

 

[schuelma]

Hm, so...

Ryse
Zombie 720
All in the Family
Forza 5 (or PGR5)
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Assassin's Creed IV
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4
Annual sports title port 1
Annual sports title port 2
New NFS?

Looks like a solid line-up so far if true, but again, mostly third party dependent

And most if not all of those 3rd party titles appear to be cross gen. Not amazingly compelling.

 

[twobear]

Sony started earlier, has some of the best hardware engineers in the industry, and is making a larger box. They haven't shown you the box as of yet.

?

 

[DieH@rd]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Microsoft ship is sinking, while sony is rising like the angel they are.

Rise, Rise, Rise!

E3 meltdowns will be epic.

Spoiler

Its a shame GAF servers will not be operational during pressconfs. GAF was 99% dead during PSMeeting...

 

[statham]

So a précis of the thread so far:

• Kotaku says Microsoft is behind in game development; Sony are in better shape for both hardware and games
• CBOAT tacitly confirms this
• Thuway says that Microsoft is having heating issues and Ryse is janky.
• BruceLeeRoy concurs.
• Kagari vouches for thuway's reliability, after a random now banned junior account challenges.
• CBOAT says "heh" in response to a post doubting the Kotaku story - take that as you will.
• LiquidMetal14 says sources also verify this.
  
• IdeaMan claims Sony are having similar issues.
• BruceLeeRoy disputes this.
• bishoptl also disputes this.
• IdeaMan doubles down on his claim, citing Wii U sources.

In asides:

• Insomniac may not have PS4 development kits.
• And there's a League of Legends exclusive for Durango.

Nice job.

 

[IdeaMan]

people often forget Frontier when it comes to Kinect even though they have a hand in most of that peripherals output.



Just sounds like youre trying to shit on a parade because the positivity irks you. Low framerate in early development for a new console is like... how its always been.

wow, the paranoia is strong with some people I don't know why i would have a specific agenda to "shit on the positive ps4 parade". 1) The info given isn't "shitting" 2) We are talking about a next-gen system being late so it's ideal to also talk about the other one 3) I liked Playstation 4 "marcom" and hype building as anyone else, but it shouldn't prevent us to keep a cool head and say it if we happen to hear not as positive things on it.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

So a précis of the thread so far:

• Kotaku says Microsoft is behind in game development; Sony are in better shape for both hardware and games
• CBOAT tacitly confirms this
• Thuway says that Microsoft is having heating issues and Ryse is janky.
• BruceLeeRoy concurs.
• Kagari vouches for thuway's reliability, after a random now banned junior account challenges.
• CBOAT says "heh" in response to a post doubting the Kotaku story - take that as you will.
• LiquidMetal14 says sources also verify this.
  
• IdeaMan claims Sony are having similar issues.
• BruceLeeRoy disputes this.
• bishoptl also disputes this.
• IdeaMan doubles down on his claim, citing Wii U sources.

In asides:

• Insomniac may not have PS4 development kits.
• And there's a League of Legends exclusive for Durango.

Wow all these new insiders have suddenly come out of the woodwork! Didn't know there were so many on GAF.

 

[zychi]

How hard is it to make an xbox game? Cant they just make it a pc game, and port it over to the windows 8 box os or whatever the new rumor is? Its looking more and more like im going to skip ms completely this time around. At the very least , until they announce next next gen and i can get it sub 150 bucks

 

[Captainsweatpants]

 

[Iacobellis]

Hm, so...

Ryse
Zombie 720
All in the Family
Forza 5 (or PGR5)
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Assassin's Creed IV
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4
Annual sports title port 1
Annual sports title port 2
New NFS?

Looks like a solid line-up so far if true, but again, mostly third party dependent

The 360 was the same way. Only first party standout was PDZ.

 

[SniperHunter]

insomniac not having ps4 dev kits deserves a new thread

 

[frankie_baby]

What about the power requirements of 32MB EDRAM? The GDDR5, despite being power hungry, resides on the motherboard and not on the processor die so its heat is easier to dissipate.

well the wii u has 34mb of edram and the whole system uses about as much power as a couple of energy saving ligtbulbs

 

[Mifune]

insomniac not having ps4 dev kits deserves a new thread

Yeah, that little tidbit is CRAZY.

 

[Spongebob]

Hm, so...

Ryse
Zombie 720
All in the Family
Forza 5 (or PGR5)
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Assassin's Creed IV
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4
Annual sports title port 1
Annual sports title port 2
New NFS?

Looks like a solid line-up so far if true, but again, mostly third party dependent

Cross-gen games don't push units.

 

[Iacobellis]

insomniac not having ps4 dev kits deserves a new thread

Does this confirm Insomniac is dead?

 

[Guymelef]

Sony started earlier, has some of the best hardware engineers in the industry, and is making a larger box. They haven't shown you the box as of yet.

Internal Power supply in every PS3 model even in the ultra slim says a lot of what kind of engineers has each company.

 

[Robot Pants]

"Microsoft doesn't care about video games."