Battlefield 4 PS4 runs at 720p native [DICE: Incorrect]

If there's one game that I really understand doing this for, it's this one. The level size/player count/destruction it's trying to pull off, at 60fps no less, is much more significant than any other game I can think of. I honestly think it's commendable they chose framerate over resolution, too.
 
alexandros said:
It's not one game. It's a lot of titles that can't maintain a 60 fps refresh rate at 1080p despite the fact that a number of them are cross-gen and as such, limited in design by the hardware of the current-gen consoles.
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What does this have to do with your previous statement?
 
Still dont get it... PS4 is about 4 or more times stronger than PS360 and all they could do is double the framerate? Really?
 
velociraptor said:
My 6950 maintains 50-60FPS, 1080p, high settings (except ultra textures), medium post process AA, no MSAA. This is in multiplayer.

I am not exactly a 'tech geek' like many here. But from what I have garnered, many tech orientated members suggested the 32 ROPS should allow the PS4 push for 1080p without any issue. What gives? How does the CPU play a role in providing 1080p? It doesn't make sense.
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I would say it's definitely the CPU. A strong gfx card is great, but you need a strong'ish CPU to complement it.
 
ghst said:
careful, keep blaming DICE and they might come out and say something you don't want to hear.
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We're old enough to know why. They just could have made some concessions and got it to 1080p.

Has anyone played this on PS4? I think this will matter less when the games are out so I guess all the fits should be had now since it won't stop anyone I know from buying the PS4 or Xbone versions.

OldAsUrSock said:
720p with 60fps for me.
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Same.

Bare in mind I mod BF3 on PC to bring my fps to below 60 plenty of times because I can. Then again my PC cost around 6 times the amount of 1 PS4.
 
Maybe devs need to start giving us an option on console games to switch between preset resolutions/FPS

For games that are unable to run a 1080p60 just give us an option in the menu to choose either 720p60 or 1080p30
 
I love what I am seeing in the BF4 PC gameplay, and wish the console could do that. But at the price point and given the specs, 720p60 seems a valid trade. I am glad I don't live in the no compromise world many in this thread seem to inhabit. I played through all of last gen at sub 1080p resolutions on a large tv and while it doesn't hold a candle to PC on max, it ws hardly a game breaker as some in here would like us to believe. I suspect that we will see large improvements over the next few years as devs have more time with the hardware.

Also, why are people comparing BF4 at 720p60 with 64 players and dynamic destruction to Killzone at 1080p (hope of 60) with no talk of destruction and 24 players? And then saying we should blame EA or Dice? You are hurting my sanity.
 
StevieP said:
Microsoft had games that were SubHD at launch. The TRC was never followed



Nobody's seen it publicly on consoles yet.



Is it really?



Yes, by dropping the detail, AA, post processed effects etc when we are talking about multiplayer. People seem to be painfully unaware how taxing bf3 was to hardware that is far more powerful than these consoles, especially with the need to maintain 60fps and 1080p. It scales all the way from the low to the very high end. The consoles are somewhere in between, and their output will be reflective of this.
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I've read the PC specs of BF4 are similar to BF3.
 
Damn... my buddies talked me into getting it on PC, but my PC won't run it as well as a PS4 would... and I don't want to get a new video card any time soon...
 
EuropeOG said:
Although PS4/Bone are similar to PC's, they feature the Jaguar CPU which probably requires them to tweak Frostbite 3. 720p just seems like the easy way out at launch to get a steady 60fps rather than spending more time reworking their engine.
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Changing the rendering resolution of a game is one of the few things you can do which has practically no CPU impact at all.
("Practically" because you can probably construct a scenario where the CPU is waiting for some GPU operation to complete which requires more time at a higher resolution)
 
MrJustinius said:
I run BF3 at 1080p 60fps with all Ultra settings apart from AA (FXAA only, no MSAA) and effects (set on high cause smoke causes frame drops on ultra here) with a HD 7850 quite easily.

I mean I've had to overclock it a fair bit to get it to run at Ultra settings but to run it at the High preset with a 7850 at 1080p60 out of the box is very achievable.

The PS4 also has a 7850 at a higher spec than stock and there's obvious optimisations for consoles so that factors into it too. The PS4 can do it, but I think DICE went for image quality and framerate > resolution here.
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Yeah my laptop with a nvidia 765m can run it at 1080p on Ultra (no 60fps but around 45-50). I turn off AA to get better frame rate of course. That said, I always just run on high settings as I don't notice much difference and I get better framerate.
 
StevieP said:
Yes, by dropping the detail, AA, post processed effects etc when we are talking about multiplayer. People seem to be painfully unaware how taxing bf3 was to hardware that is far more powerful than these consoles, especially with the need to maintain 60fps and 1080p. It scales all the way from the low to the very high end. The consoles are somewhere in between, and their output will be reflective of this.
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Even saying that you trying to tell me they could not go above 720p .
As i said i know these consoles far from high end but they could have gone lets say 1280x1080 which would have at look better .
 
TheLegendOfMart said:
$399.

A CPU/GPU would cost $399 alone that is capable of playing BF4 at 1080p at just 30FPS, all you are missing is mobo, RAM, HDD, case, powersupply, keyboard, mouse, OS.

Getting bored of how entitled gamers are, you are expecting FAR too much considering the cost.
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Then explain to me what we should be entitled to then.
 
MrJustinius said:
I run BF3 at 1080p 60fps with all Ultra settings apart from AA (FXAA only, no MSAA) and effects (set on high cause smoke causes frame drops on ultra here) with a HD 7850 quite easily.

I mean I've had to overclock it a fair bit to get it to run at Ultra settings but to run it at the High preset with a 7850 at 1080p60 out of the box is very achievable.

The PS4 also has a 7850 at a higher spec than stock and there's obvious optimisations for consoles so that factors into it too. The PS4 can do it, but I think DICE went for image quality and framerate > resolution here.
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Well I do run MSAA, so that's a big hit.

Fair enough if the 7850 gets that with only small sacrifices during multiplayer. Looked to me in benchmarks that it was only just getting that in single-player, but again, CPU makes a big difference in BF3, which could be bottlenecking the console versions.

EDIT: Or maybe not, according to what Durante says.
 
MrJustinius said:
I run BF3 at 1080p 60fps with all Ultra settings apart from AA (FXAA only, no MSAA) and effects (set on high cause smoke causes frame drops on ultra here) with a HD 7850 quite easily.

I mean I've had to overclock it a fair bit to get it to run at Ultra settings but to run it at the High preset with a 7850 at 1080p60 out of the box is very achievable.

The PS4 also has a 7850 at a higher spec than stock and there's obvious optimisations for consoles so that factors into it too. The PS4 can do it, but I think DICE went for image quality and framerate > resolution here.
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Overclock more. My 7850 can run all settings maxed with 4xMSAA at 60fps.
 
W!CKED said:
The funny thing is that many users with HD7850 will play it with 1080p on PC. ^_^
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Yeah no one would sacrifice 1080p to obtain higher framerate. They will lower settings, not abandon the native resolution of their screen.

What i really think, there's no way it is a 30fps difference between 720p and 1080p on PS4. No way. It's certainly a situation where they have 45-50fps at 1080p on PS4 (looks achievable) and 35-40fps at 1080p on XBO (much less achievable) so: 720p/60 for all, and safely go to launch.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
We're old enough to know why. They just could have made some concessions and got it to 1080p.

Has anyone played this on PS4? I think this will matter less when the games are out so I guess all the fits should be had now since it won't stop anyone I know from buying the PS4 or Xbone versions.



Same.

Bare in mind I mod BF3 on PC to bring my fps to below 60 plenty of times because I can. Then again my PC cost around 6 times the amount of 1 PS4.
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Gamespot played it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcxiicV9VSk
 
Floex said:
Then explain to me what we should be entitled to then.
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Take what you get or build a PC like mine with SLI 670's and a 3930k.

Or like most everyone I know, buy a console because it will deliver more performance now than ever on something like PS4 and also be easier to function.

I cannot stand BF3 on consoles due to the res but more so because the choppy frame rate. I think anyone who is going to get the PS4/Xbone version will be quite happy.
 
I'm surprised no one has played the "they had to have it at 720p @ 60fps on PS4 to keep parity with Xbox One" card yet.
 
the_prime_mover said:
Also, why are people comparing BF4 at 720p60 with 64 players and dynamic destruction to Killzone at 1080p (hope of 60) with no talk of destruction and 24 players? And then saying we should blame EA or Dice? You are hurting my sanity.
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Because apparently they're all developers!
 
Dictator93 said:
Non-native screen resolution gaming in the generation of LCDs is horrifying. I just thought I would remind everyone.
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Exactly, it's very bad news. But it's a choice, it's not because of the hardware and much more because they haven't got the time to adapt it enough for those platforms to have consistent results at launch. It seems it is that, it's likely that.

And i think i would take 1080p over 60fps myself. Having a old laptop, it's the choice i've done everytime.
 
lol

Though nothing surprising to me. Disappointed still. The ghost of bad IQ of past still loves on.

Will pass on this game for sure.
 
Lagspike_exe said:
Embarrasing. If Killzone can pull out 1080p and probably 60 FPS in multiplayer, so should they.
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To be fair, there is also WAY more shit going on in Battlefield multiplayer than Killzone. 64 players, large scale maps, vehicles, and environmental destruction...

Killzone ain't about that life...
 
OldAsUrSock said:
Overclock more. My 7850 can run all settings maxed with 4xMSAA at 60fps.
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My overclock is ridiculous though haha. 1225/1375 stable. No way I can go higher without problems.

I know I can run it with at least 2x MSAA but even there I still notice frame drops in crazy action scenes, let alone 4x. We're talking drops to 40-45 fps at the most, so it's not major, but I'm picky with them. So I just stick with FXAA and drop effects to make sure I never dip below 60. Still looks great even if FXAA is rubbish.
 
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