whats the difference? those who wont settle for this shit, there is not a single chance that they will settle for even worse!
Battlefield 4 PS4 runs at 720p native [DICE: Incorrect]
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FonkyByNature
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I'm kinda disapointed. I mean this is next gen and we're still dealing with 720p and 30fps in most cases ?
After a generation of 8 years i expect an upgrade...
After a generation of 8 years i expect an upgrade...
Portugeezer
Member
a 6970 running metro 2033 averages 43FPS at 1080p even with the totally superfluous and performance-annihilating DX11 extras ticked.
i think i'm beginning to understand why you're leaning towards consoles.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Heh, figured as much considering they were so hush-hush about it.
It's all about tradeoffs. The resolution can easily be 1080p but they would have to turn other graphical effects down/off.
So far it's mostly 1080p at 30 fps. I don't think we'll see 720p 30 fps again.
Sithlord77
Banned
Honestly this shouldn't be a surprise. The GPU inside these consoles is like a 18 month old GPU for PC's.
fluffydelusions
Member
It's only one game and a pretty demanding one at that. I'm certain plenty of games will be native 1080p
gundamkyoukai
Member
One would hope so but i won't be betting on it that is for certain
Because no one has a 900p TV. At least a 720p will look sharp on an old 720p screen, whilst 900p is going to look blurry on everything. That being said, I do expect things to change soon as 1080p becomes the "standard". Just like this gen, there will be devs who will cheat for extra performance by running their games sub-1080p, but won't go all the way down to 720p to avoid the "last gen" stigma.
shinobi602
Member
Highly disappointing. Can't even run launch titles at 1080p, gotdamn.
SirButterstick
Banned
Heh, everyone who wasn't blinded by the 'next gen' knew this already. Many people were deluding themselves.
Dictator93
Member
That is not a friendly thing to say here sometimes. Even though it should be.
All logic pointed toward realistic compromises for performance and resolution on these new consoles. Yet a lot of people on GAF over hyped themselves probably.
you do know the cpu in these new consoles are pretty wack right?? it's not just about the gpu
lol
GAF never ceases to amaze me.
GPUs significantly older than that can run BF3 with most settings cranked at 1080/60. PS4 should at least able to handle this above 720.
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*gently pets his PC*
dragonelite
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Every other launch title is running at 1080p (as far as we're aware), this is an anomaly.
No one has a 720p TV either, because 99.99% of sub-1080p TVs have a resolution of 1366x768.
A game at 720p@30fps with the visual quality of Samaritan demo or a world more complex than we've seen before will be considered a disappointment? if IQ is that important for some people I don't get why they're planning to have the PS4/Xbone as their main platforms next gen.
Console gaming means that there will be compromises, you can't have top notch visuals with perfect IQ and steady 60fps on the consoles...there always gonna be some compromises in some department and guess what it's always being like that and it will continue to be so, anyone who doesn't want to deal with all the negatives that comes with a 400-500e closed architecture system can always go to the PC gaming.
I give it 2 years before games are not even hitting a solid 30FPS on a regular basis again (like pretty much everything coming out atm)
What really amuses me is all the people who were thinking these consoles would be able to run native 4K games later in their life.
Free downscaling on 720p screen its almost like supersampling
Yeah, let's just play BF4 on the Vita via remote play. Native res + free supersampling
No, not really.
If their goal is to provide visuals like in the first Battlefield 4 Singleplayer demo, I can understand compromises being made.
I'll take this at 720p.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Well it's that or 1080p 30fps.
What i'd like to see is devs using a dynamic resolution if possible.
What i'd like to see is devs using a dynamic resolution if possible.
Portugeezer
Member
Still can't fully understand why people are so quick to dismiss the "XB1 feature parity theory" on this one, given when mere hours ago EA felt the need to make a statement about their relationship with Sony.
EA and MS' "strategic partnership" is a fact. And we're not talking about an exclusivity agreement that would take money out of EA's pockets. In the end, if they get money from XB1 copies, PS4 or PC is not an issue for them.
How is it so rational to mock the idea of them purposefully not "wasting" resources on trying to make PS4 the better version for the sake of said "strategic partnership"?
EA and MS' "strategic partnership" is a fact. And we're not talking about an exclusivity agreement that would take money out of EA's pockets. In the end, if they get money from XB1 copies, PS4 or PC is not an issue for them.
How is it so rational to mock the idea of them purposefully not "wasting" resources on trying to make PS4 the better version for the sake of said "strategic partnership"?
no need to keep pulling our own legs here...
not anymore.
the reason it 1280x720 (720p) and not 1600x900 (900p),
is that between these two resolutions lie about half a million pixels more per frame.
therefore, it is very easy to conclude that on a 900p renderer, you wouldnt get your full 60 frames, hence have the last generation resolution of 720p and smile.
dragonelite
Member
I rather they downgrade the graphics and offer 1080p@60fps.
But the changes you can spot an far away enemy with 900p is a lot higher then at 720p.
childplease
Banned
Even sadder is the performance in these consoles the gpu woulda been high end on pcs 3 or 4 years ago.
Dictator93
Member
Definitely not in multiplayer.
Too filled with conjecture. Given their effects settings, CPU load, and a variety of other settings like draw distance they probably did not want to add anymore MS into the pipeline.
PS4 could probably run it at higher than 720p, just the quality of the effects would suffer (or disappear) or the the framerate would give.
Shh, don't bring that logic in here. This is next-gen we're talking about!
Also, you gotta love the people in here arm chair developing, thinking that they've got the keys to running BF4 at 1080p and DICE are incompetent. So good.
fluffydelusions
Member
I don't know, didn't they say one console version of Need for Speed will look better so I don't really think they are playing favorites.
Iorv3th
Member
Now im conflicted on which version to get. I got BF3 on PC but had like 1 friend that had it on pc so most of the time played alone online. I planned to get the ps4 version because that's what my friends will get it on.
Maybe have to go back to PC.... However not sure I will be getting a new video card this year, probably next year. Don't know if my 6950 can run it well at 60fps. Hopefully it doesn't use that stupid web browser interface again for multiplayer either.
Maybe have to go back to PC.... However not sure I will be getting a new video card this year, probably next year. Don't know if my 6950 can run it well at 60fps. Hopefully it doesn't use that stupid web browser interface again for multiplayer either.
Portugeezer
Member
Dat next gen destruction from Bad Company 2. Or dat next gen air/land vehicles from Battlefield 2.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Don't know what to tell you, when I maxed out metro on my PC with a 2500k and a 2GB 6970 with maxed out OC, I got sub 30fps performance with all the bells and whistles. Often times I would hit 10-15fps. I bench-marked this long ago.
I don't think you understand why since I've updated my PC long ago to an SLI 670/3930k/16GB RAM PC. I should go out and see how that performs and see if I can at least keep a steady 60fps at 1080p because Metro is a HW hog.
The main reason I advise to get a console is the ease. Why do you think most multi platform games sell on consoles? I don't want to get into that whole conversation but a new powerful console like PS4 will be a lot easier to recommend than just building a PC worthy of running games at their best. That or even letting your kids or nephews play games like Skylanders or Knack. Those games will be like BF4 for kids. I'm not wrong. I've seen the reaction of my 2 kids when watching Knack.
MrJustinius
Member
True, but you'd expect that they'll be coding for many more threads than this gen and therefore able to pull out good performance out of basically a mobile CPU. I mean my i5-2500K hasn't even been threatened by any game just yet after 2 years of owning one, so being CPU bound shouldn't happen here.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
So everyone will buy Killzone: SF now.
GenericUser
Member
native 720P in 60 frames per second?
I am suprisingly ok with this. I mean, I did enjoy BF3 at sub 30 fps with only 24 players on the ps3 after all - so this will be a generational leap forward for me.
I am suprisingly ok with this. I mean, I did enjoy BF3 at sub 30 fps with only 24 players on the ps3 after all - so this will be a generational leap forward for me.
Dictator93
Member
Were you running 4XMSAA or something? Then again the 6000 series cards kind of got crush by metro
Kinda sounds like it.