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‘The Walking Dead’ – Season 5, Part 1 – Sundays on AMC

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Kuroyume

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The characters on the Walking Dead may as well not talk. Totally worthless conversations. Nothing clever. Nothing funny. Nothing worthwhile.

The only exception appears to be Eugene.
 

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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
yeah thats my biggest pet peeve for TWD, characters are written so bizarrely. no one communicates normally or says anything specific. its really annoying to watch characters that have been together since season one act like complete strangers when it comes to dialogue. everyone comes off as overly dramatic with their "i dont want to talk about my dark secret past" persona.

I've known people here in the normal world for years and still have secrets/things I have not tell em

Why is it so not-believable that these characters in a fucked up world would be having problems opening up to people??!

Some of the most normal looking and acting people in that universe have done some horrible shit as the season went on lol

Why would expect TWD characters to be communicating as open and clear as "normal world" people?

Still one of the best writing on TV
 

Drencrom

Member
The characters on the Walking Dead may as well not talk. Totally worthless conversations. Nothing clever. Nothing funny. Nothing worthwhile.

If this really is your opinion, why are you even watching the show? I'm not being 'salty' or whatever over your critique, I'm just genuinely asking why you would waste your time on a series that you seemingly think is bad and spend so much time here writing why it's subpar and crap.
 

mujun

Member
Would they talk like normal people?

First off, the weight of the world is on their shoulders what with the way the world has changed and all that they've lost.

Second, I don't think they really get that much time to just shoot the shit. Sure they get some but it seems that they are really busy just making sure they aren't going to get killed almost every waking moment.

Third, not wanting to discuss a deep dark secret is as much about not wanting to admit it to yourself as it is about not wanting to admit it to others.

Sure, I think that there is plenty of stuff, times and types of people that would allow for something like what we consider a normal conversation but on the other hand there is also a much higher chance for reticence, cryptic answers and a lack of desire to just talk in general.
 
The characters on the Walking Dead may as well not talk. Totally worthless conversations. Nothing clever. Nothing funny. Nothing worthwhile.

The only exception appears to be Eugene.

Christ man every season its the same old song and dance with you. Why the fuck are you still watching?
 

Lothar

Banned
Christ man every season its the same old song and dance with you. Why the fuck are you still watching?

Why are you blaming him for the dialogue being terrible? I don't think it's his fault. If it's something that you hear a lot, maybe the show should have better writing then.
 
I really really enjoyed the last episode. This one was the best one in quote a while. To see them come back full circle back where they started is pretty awesome
 

Revolver

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Being in the city is much more evocative and drives home what has happened to the world. We have been completely detached from the world as it existed for so long, the countryside really doesnt look much different to the pre-apocolypse state. Touches like the family at the abuse center allow us to remember that each zombie was once a person, with a complex life, not just a knife/arrow/bullet receptacle. The way they achieved that without having to show any back story, just allowing your imagination to fill in the gaps was really impressive.

Yeah. The shot of the mother and her child clawing the door at the abuse center stayed with me. Probably the most haunting scene they've shot in a while. I'm glad they're back in the city since it shows just how dead and hopeless the world is now. You don't get that feeling wandering around the woods. My only gripe was Carol getting hit by the car outta nowhere. I don't like when this show does stuff like that. The sudden popup of obstacles in the road or a zombie horde can be annoying.
 
Melissa McBride is specifically styled to appear much older than Reedus' character. The salt and pepper hair in particular. The characters are much further apart in age than the actors are.

Can't be 'that' much older though. She had a pretty young daughter at the beginning. I would place her around 37 or something in the show, and Daryl would be about 27-30 I think because his brother seemed about Carol's age. More than close enough for a little hanky panky.
 

Lothar

Banned
Can't be 'that' much older though. She had a pretty young daughter at the beginning. I would place her around 37 or something in the show, and Daryl would be about 27-30 I think because his brother seemed about Carol's age. More than close enough for a little hanky panky.

They're both about their 40s. I thought that before ever looking at their ages on wikipedia. There's no way in hell Daryl could pass for someone in their 20s.
 
Can't be 'that' much older though. She had a pretty young daughter at the beginning. I would place her around 37 or something in the show, and Daryl would be about 27-30 I think because his brother seemed about Carol's age. More than close enough for a little hanky panky.

Her daughter was around the same age as Carl but that doesn't say much of anything as women can give birth into their late 30's and early 40's. Both Carol and Merle are depicted with quite a bit of grey hair in their first introductions to the show. I think they're both early to mid 40's at the start, with Merle possibly being a few years older.

They're both about their 40s. I thought that before ever looking at their ages on wikipedia. There's no way in hell Daryl could pass for someone in their 20s.

Daryl does not strike me as in his 40's at all. At the beginning of the show he's very much more of a younger mindset and looks. The only thing that suggests he could be a fairly young looking 40's is the fact that Merle could be anywhere from his 40's to his 50's so if you were to assume they were close in age, that could influence perception.

Daryl has always struck me as younger than Rick and they both look fairly young at the series start. So I'd put Daryl as early 30's at the start of the series and Rick at mid to late 30's. Making Daryl somehwere in his mid 30's now and Rick late 30's to early 40's now.
 

Loomba

Member
I miss Rick... I like the other groups and have enjoyed the last few episodes but it's really not the same without him imo.
 

zeitgeist

Member
I was thinking this while watching this week.

Everyone must fucking stink! It's been how long since they look like they've been clean haha

Ever since the first Guts moment I've figured that everyone must reek so much.
I think the smell would be the worst part if there were ever a real zombie apocalypse.
 

jond76

Banned
Why are people saying the car came out of nowhere? They showed it from our characters pov when they looked out the window. Even they knew it was there.

Hopefully we'll get some more Atlanta episodes. I love looking at the dead city.
 

JDSN

Banned
I need a map to tell me what is the road they have taken since the beginning of the show, I cant believe they are still a couple of hours from Atlanta.
And yeah, this show got good!
 
I need a map to tell me what is the road they have taken since the beginning of the show, I cant believe they are still a couple of hours from Atlanta.
And yeah, this show got good!

According to the maps that showed the way to Terminus, it was in Bibb County Georgia. Which is where Macon, GA is, and that is only like an hour or two drive from Atlanta.

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Lethe82

Banned
I'm chomping at the bit to get back to the Eugene crew, that is by far the most interesting plot line at the moment, for me.
 
According to the maps that showed the way to Terminus, it was in Bibb County Georgia. Which is where Macon, GA is, and that is only like an hour or two drive from Atlanta.

Yup. And The Prison, according to the Highway that's mentioned as passing by the prison, would've been off to the east and a little south. So they traveled from just outside Atlanta, to the south to the Prison but as a result of getting split up.. ended up going back north-east to Macon and now back to Atlanta with Beth getting abducted and taken there.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
I need a map to tell me what is the road they have taken since the beginning of the show, I cant believe they are still a couple of hours from Atlanta.
And yeah, this show got good!

Here's a list of all the filming locations they've done so far (up to the end of S3), which doesn't necessarily line up with where the characters are in universe, but I thought it was still really interesting:

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#3 is the hospital Rick was at
#16 is the prison

etc.
 

Eklipsis

Member
According to the maps that showed the way to Terminus, it was in Bibb County Georgia. Which is where Macon, GA is, and that is only like an hour or two drive from Atlanta.

Wasn't there an ep last season that had michonne looking at a map, when she was hunting the govenor it showed Macon GA also....maybe a hint to Terminus.
 

shaki123

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What a terrible episode. Nothing happened at all except in the end. And even that was cringeworthy. This show could have been made by MTV. I don't like the way this season is splitting storylines into seperate episodes. The van sequence was utter cringe. The way the van fell in the first shot, and then landed on its feet is just low budget and just a copout. The post apocalyptic backdrop was the only nice thing about this episode. Terrible. Popcorn tv for the lesser of minds. The principle actors probably won't get paid much since they only appear in seperate episodes or in short bits. Terrible season. Actually, I want the Governor back. At least that "storyline" had some character. Where the fuck is Rick and the gang and their journey. Where was his journey in the previous season? The show started very nice, with him being transformed into a leader. Now, he's just a side character. And even a small one. Shit, I really don't understand these writers.
 

daviyoung

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Yeh, if you're still developing main characters in the 5th season something has gone terribly wrong. The story needs to move now.

They could go like this for eternity though. Kill character, replace with exact archetype, flesh out backstory, kill character...
 

Joni

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Yeh, if you're still developing main characters in the 5th season something has gone terribly wrong. The story needs to move now.

They could go like this for eternity though. Kill character, replace with exact archetype, flesh out backstory, kill character...
No, I think it is quite good they're still evolving their characters. Carol isn't the same person she was five years ago - Wait, have they been evading zombies for five years? - so it is good they give characters like her, Rick and Daryl a chance to grow. It is bad if they're just doing this to make it shocking when they kill her. At this point, they should just put a safe tag on those three in the writing room and keep them as anchors for the show.
 
Yeh, if you're still developing main characters in the 5th season something has gone terribly wrong. The story needs to move now.

They could go like this for eternity though. Kill character, replace with exact archetype, flesh out backstory, kill character...

Well it's based on a comic that has been doing that for over 10 years...
 

Loke13

Member
Yeh, if you're still developing main characters in the 5th season something has gone terribly wrong. The story needs to move now.

They could go like this for eternity though. Kill character, replace with exact archetype, flesh out backstory, kill character...
That's a terrible notion to have, character development shouldn't stop just because. It should be a constantly evolving process people change throughout different stages of their lives and tv show characters should be no different.
 
Yeh, if you're still developing main characters in the 5th season something has gone terribly wrong. The story needs to move now.

Character development, in long form storytelling, does not have an end. Not until the story itself ends and there's no sign of that happening anytime soon. Most people don't just stop growing and learning and having issues and overcoming them.

Also, the way the characters develop IS the story in TWD.
 

daviyoung

Banned
you guys are suckers for punishment lol

we knew everything we needed to know of Carol up to this point once she had learned mortar trajectories, but apparently there needs to be an episode detailing all the reasons

the last episode was nothing but artificial longevity
 

shaki123

Member
you guys are suckers for punishment lol

we knew everything we needed to know of Carol up to this point once she had learned mortar trajectories, but apparently there needs to be an episode detailing all the reasons

the last episode was nothing but artificial longevity

I haven't seen this much filler since Lost's Fire and Water. Waste of time. Do they think the audience only wants to see characters move from A to B, kill some zombies and repeat? Man, I was in love with Rick's story in season 1 and the group dynamic. Season 3, 4 and 5 are just a shadow of Season 1 and 2. The most weird thing is that the episode gets good reviews.

AvClub review of episode 6.
A-
 

Volimar

Member
I haven't seen this much filler since Lost's Fire and Water. Waste of time. Do they think the audience only wants to see characters move from A to B, kill some zombies and repeat? Man, I was in love with Rick's story in season 1 and the group dynamic. Season 3, 4 and 5 are just a shadow of Season 1 and 2. The most weird thing is that the episode gets good reviews.

AvClub review of episode 6.
A-

Obviously the show can't be all things to all people. Seems lots of folks like Carol's character development.
 

shaki123

Member
Her struggling with domestic abuse, having checked herself and Sophia in that abuse center.

WOW. That is indeed some amazing "development". Come on seriously, This show has been dumbed down. You can easily watch it while playing a game or whatever. Nothing happens at all. I miss season 1 and 2.
 

Kuroyume

Banned
I didn't know she was being domestically abused. All I remember of Carol's past was her being beaten around by her husband during the first season.
 

Konka

Banned
I don't understand people who obviously don't like the show and do nothing but bitch about it week after week and yet still watch it. Probably for the sole purpose of coming to this thread and shitting on it. Great, you haven't liked it for 3 years now. Why the hell are you still watching it.
 

shaki123

Member
I don't understand people who obviously don't like the show and do nothing but bitch about it week after week and yet still watch it. Probably for the sole purpose of coming to this thread and shitting on it. Great, you haven't liked it for 3 years now. Why the hell are you still watching it.

I will explain to you my friend. I really like the premise, the setting and the characters from the first couple of seasons. Episode 4 (season 5)was amazing for instance. I never ever bitched on this thread before and I even hope the show gets better, but of course I will not be silent when I want to talk. It is a forum. Forums are exactly meant for this. I just hope they get a better writing team and stop the dumbminded filler episodes where nothing at all happens except the moving of characters form A to B, some dead zombies in between and credits, We deserve better. Seems fair after the first 2 seasons eh.

I compare season 3,4 and 5 to Dexter's 5,6,7 and 8.
 

Konka

Banned
I will explain to you my friend. I really like the premise, the setting and the characters from the first couple of seasons. Episode 4 (season 5)was amazing for instance. I never ever bitched on this thread before and I even hope the show gets better, but of course I will not be silent when I want to talk. It is a forum. Forums are exactly meant for this. I just hope they get a better writing team and stop the dumbminded filler episodes where nothing at all happens except the moving of characters form A to B, some dead zombies in between and credits, We deserve better. Seems fair after the first 2 seasons eh.

I compare season 3,4 and 5 to Dexter's 5,6,7 and 8.

Great and other people have different opinions. Season 2 was absolute garbage and was by far the lowest point of the series. I hope to god that the show doesn't become "Hershels Farm" ever again.
 

Palpable

Member
I will explain to you my friend. I really like the premise, the setting and the characters from the first couple of seasons. Episode 4 (season 5)was amazing for instance. I never ever bitched on this thread before and I even hope the show gets better, but of course I will not be silent when I want to talk. It is a forum. Forums are exactly meant for this. I just hope they get a better writing team and stop the dumbminded filler episodes where nothing at all happens except the moving of characters form A to B, some dead zombies in between and credits, We deserve better. Seems fair after the first 2 seasons eh.

I compare season 3,4 and 5 to Dexter's 5,6,7 and 8.

I'd love to see you go off on Sons of Anarchy season 7, then. You think TWD has filler episodes? Sheeeeeiiit.
 

shaki123

Member
Great and other people have different opinions. Season 2 was absolute garbage and was by far the lowest point of the series. I hope to god that the show doesn't become "Hershels Farm" ever again.

Haha. Yeah it was a bit boring I admit man, but at least there was some real character work going on. Hershel was a great character (why the fuck did they kill of the 2 old guys in the show when they were clearly the most popular beats me). They should take a look at what Telltale is doing to TWD and maybe fucking learn from then. That is some real storytelling.

I'd love to see you go off on Sons of Anarchy season 7, then. You think TWD has filler episodes? Sheeeeeiiit.

I don't like motorcycles.
 
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