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The Walking Dead Season 5, Part 1 Sundays on AMC
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she isn't in the comics!
ph1l0z0ph3r
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Yea 0 fu*** given Rick just needs to be a permanent thing makes the show so much better.
Those were the markings the Terminus people left as a trail to Rick's group. Morgan has been following the markings since the first episode of the season.
EnlightenedMint
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I haven't read the comics, but it seems like this whole hospital plot was filler.
So this show is pretty good when they follow the comic books.
And then 95% of the shit they write on their own is just that, utter shit. I don't want to be one of "those" people, but how do you go from the source material to this and why? It's not that hard to adapt a comic. There's 130+ issues by now, that's enough for 10 seasons of TV.
And then 95% of the shit they write on their own is just that, utter shit. I don't want to be one of "those" people, but how do you go from the source material to this and why? It's not that hard to adapt a comic. There's 130+ issues by now, that's enough for 10 seasons of TV.
So it looks like Daryl and Rick have somehow switched personalities, so does that mean that in the 2nd part of S5 Daryl will plant a garden and instead of Corral it be Carrrol!!!!
Saw a brief glimpse of the 2nd half, looks like back to the woods?? They need to go back to a city level, we've had prison, farm, town and woods levels..
Saw a brief glimpse of the 2nd half, looks like back to the woods?? They need to go back to a city level, we've had prison, farm, town and woods levels..
-Pyromaniac-
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if they adapted the comic the show would move far too fast. They are still taking all the big stuff they're just arriving at them a little later. (comics)
Imagine shane died as fast as he did in the comic? we would have missed out and it wouldn't have had any impact
I agree that the hospital arc didn't 100% land but most of their comic detours have been pleasant imo.
Watch him end up being like immune to the zombie plague, and does actually end up saving the world.
Jest Chillin
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Oh there's two?
Feels weird hearing Rick with his normal accent.
They're technically one show but the first season was UK only and the following seasons are co-produced.
On Topic: I'll never understand why viewers want to call out characters decisions as being stupid when those same viewers aren't bothering to put themselves into the mind state of the characters. Noah going with them to the hospital was obviously done out of a sense of duty since he never would have escaped without Beth. Beth's decision was one made in the heat of the moment but it derived from the strength she had recently found in herself. You can call both of those things stupid now but only because it led to Beth's death. Had the situation worked out with no deaths for Rick's group and the death or ousting of Dawn and other cops in her group, people would likely be praising her the same way they praised Carol for successfully laying siege to Terminus on her own.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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The whole comic is filler. There is no end plan. Everything that happens is just a thing that happens.
I have to admit, not sure what that was about, I saw the scissors sticking out of Dawn, not sure if it did much damage to her or not, it was almost like the scissors created a reflex action?? Hell if I know..
Also, didn't Beth try and kill herself, maybe she wanted an out???
the_firewithin
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And yet comic filler is so much better then the TV filler
With a comic or any book for that matter you can speed up or skim through filler and assuming you aren't all the way caught up you can skip ahead. I started watching the show with Season 3 and watching the slow parts of Season 2 on netflix to catch up wasn't nearly as bad as watching them every week must have been. With a weekly episodic show you don't get to move at your own pace through the material.
Christberg
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That she was a habitual user of people and it would never stop until everyone around her was dead. Do you see her going out and gathering supplies? Nope. Do you see her protecting anyone but herself? Nope.
The original plan was to use Beth as a fuck doll for some of the more violent, thuggish officers. When she found out Beth wasn't that weak, she decided to use her as a pocket "ace in the hole" instead. Use, use, use and more use.
Beth nearly killed herself getting that kid out, and him going back with her was a death sentence. So Beth put a stop to it, knowing it'd likely get her killed.
Wow that has to be one of the worst episodes I've seen in a long time. Sitwell running off served absolutely no function plotwise whatsoever. What was that scene supposed to show? The dialogue between Beth and Dawn could have been written by a brain damaged baboon holding a pen between the cheeks of its arse, it was mind numbingly bad. Can someone explain why the priest went back to the school again? Seemed like another completely pointless scene.
After the first three episodes I was hyped and unfortunately its turned to complete drivel. At least when zombies are getting fucked up theres a bit of excitement, and no, I don't want action all the time. I'd love to see more character development and complex drama ala Breaking bad or the wire but not if its written by writers with lobotomies who make characters do the most braindead things and speak like five year olds. I actually watch it as a comedy now. On the positive side at least Beths gone.
After the first three episodes I was hyped and unfortunately its turned to complete drivel. At least when zombies are getting fucked up theres a bit of excitement, and no, I don't want action all the time. I'd love to see more character development and complex drama ala Breaking bad or the wire but not if its written by writers with lobotomies who make characters do the most braindead things and speak like five year olds. I actually watch it as a comedy now. On the positive side at least Beths gone.
AAAnonymous
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Um what I got out of the last 2 episodes: Rick was the one planning a commando-style raid of the hospital. It was Tyrese/Daryl that were being soft.
Tyrese/Daryl wanted to make a hostage exchange so everyone could go home. Rick said "that might work, but this [commando raid] will work".
These last 2 episodes were justifying what you guys want: when people don't want to follow hardcore Rick, people end up dying. Maybe now Daryl learned this lesson too (losing Beth), and Tyrese's sister had an incident that left her helpless.
Nerd_Incognito
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I interpreted it as Beth thinking "the people here are forever trapped if you're in charge, and even though you say you're doing something good you're not, so I have to end this cycle."
Filler this filler that.
This is a show about surviving. There's no rescue coming. There's no safe haven. There's no goal other than to stay alive.
All the crazy shit they've gone through is enough for 10 lifetimes. Can't complain when they're not fighting a governor type villain every week.
This is a show about surviving. There's no rescue coming. There's no safe haven. There's no goal other than to stay alive.
All the crazy shit they've gone through is enough for 10 lifetimes. Can't complain when they're not fighting a governor type villain every week.
Dead Prince
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taking bets that when the season resume maggie will have forgotten about beth
There is a scene in the preview of her crying alone at a campfire so I doubt it. She's gonna turn into Season 3 Farmer Rick after Lori dies.
Cellbomber
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T-Dawg never got an episode devoted for an upcoming death. The dude went 5+ episodes of being in the background only to get interrupted by Dale for his one line he had in weeks. He went on to die a few episodes later without saying much.
Thinking back what was the dumbest thing the group has tried? For me it may be when they were lowering Glenn into the well to try and pull the walker out.
Thinking back what was the dumbest thing the group has tried? For me it may be when they were lowering Glenn into the well to try and pull the walker out.
Escape Goat
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She was just crying because Glenn slep with Carol.
This is why I don't understand all the vitriol for the show from time to time. How much excitement can there be in a post-apocalyptic world where almost everyone is already dead.
(Comics)
However, the new arc in the comics with the talking zombies has HUGE potential for this show not to mention Negan as long as the dont drag that out over 2 seasons.
Pilgrimzero
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I just saw the thing where Kirkman says that Daryl is straight. There went that fan theory. I rather liked the idea, makes him just a bit more unique. Oh well.
Jest Chillin
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The priest went to the school to get confirmation that what Rick's group did made sense. Remember that he's been locked inside the Church since the outbreak started. He hasn't seen what the depths that society has dropped to. So their ruthless killing of the Terminus group inside the church shocked the hell out of him. He needed to see with his own eyes if they were really doing what they thought was necessary.
That's why when he picks up the Bible, he's disheartened by their actions. And then he see's Bob's leg and that it was cooked and that's the confirmation that there are indeed many worse people in the world now than Rick's group. I doubt he'll be gung ho about killing others yet but I think it's enough for him to accept their actions in the church.
Christopher
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ugh Beth....that was hard
Air Zombie Meat
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Ok finale but some stupid decisions there. Rick didn't need to kill the cop, three in a trade is better than two and it might have saved Beths life. I know people think it's badass that he just mercilessly kills now but it's made me not like him much anymore. At this point he's really not much different from the other psychopaths they bump into who justify evil shit with the excuse of doing what's necessary to survive.
lol at Beth and her kamikaze attack. Shame the writers couldn't have thought of a better way to get to the same outcome.
lol at Beth and her kamikaze attack. Shame the writers couldn't have thought of a better way to get to the same outcome.
snoopeasystreet
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I don't think people want there to be a weekly villain or anything like that but there should be more of a progression to the show. We're basically back at the same point we were at the beginning of the season only with Noah and Gabriel replacing Bob, Beth going from missing to dead and finding out Eugene was full of shit. They're not really the kind of things that should take up half a season.
I'm all for having the show having a nihilistic attitude but if that's what they're going for, then I'd really wish they'd churn through characters more quickly than they do. Right now, Rick's group seems like an unstoppable force until it's a finale when a peripheral character gets offed, it's far too predictable. I don't know if I'd say this season was packed with filler episodes but after a strong start, it really felt like it was just going through the motions in the later episodes.
If they just sped things up and killed characters and end plots if they don't really go anywhere then people wouldn't care. If nobody cares then what's the point of the show? Just watching them killing a lot of things will get boring really fast. If there isn't really any emotional connection for a show about people trying to survive then there is no show.
This episode was far better than the last episode. I feel that Beth had become much more interesting lately, but I didn't really feel any sadness seeing her go. She made a really stupid decision and she paid with her life. I don't want airtime on Maggie going all Tyrese on things when the show starts up again.
She's going to, though. She just lost her last surviving family member when she (possibly over this season) thought she was dead and gone after Daryl told her someone took her.
Yeah, TWD official FB page spoiled the ending a couple of minutes after the episode aired in the states. They forgot there are people like me in South America and other places where the episode has yet to air, it's not like I went to TWD page, it was just there in my News Feed, pretty annoying imo.
I hope the second half will be much better, this first half has been a complete letdown, I'd even go as far as saying last week's episode was among the worst.
Just watched it and fuck.......... didn't expect that at all. RIP Beth, i liked her .......
You know he wont right? He'll be back next mid season to bitch about how domb is the show and how he hates it but still comes back season after season.
You know he wont right? He'll be back next mid season to bitch about how domb is the show and how he hates it but still comes back season after season.
Cornballer
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- Andy Greenwald for Grantland: The Walking Dead: A Remarkable Resurrection, an Underwhelming Midseason Finale
Confidence Man
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Surprised Rick was ok letting Noah go. Granted it was Noah's decision, but he clearly felt compelled to stay in order for everything to go smoothly. Rick should've told her she can't claim people and threaten a shootout.
Fantastical
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What if they pulled a GoT and nearly everyone in that hallway died? I was kinda hoping that was going to happen. Most of these characters are pretty useless anyways. Cast is too big.
I see what you're saying.
What kind of progress would you like to see? All I can think of is them building a really safe camp. But then that would bore a lot of people because there's no action. They could possible get another goal like with Eugene but make it real this time. But that's probably not the direction they want to go.
Escape Goat
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Are they reusing the same backlot now for outdoor city scenes? It all seems very Terminus like. Last episode was the first time I thought I'd seen those incredibly high chainlink fences which were erected for some bizarre reason.
bearythebear
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The hospital stuff felt boring, so Beth's "sacrifice" had like no impact. I just seemed like the whole point of "hospital" is make Beth stronger/smarter or whatever, and then they just dropped it for no reason.
Soundtracks in this episode reminded me of this amazing piece of the book of eli:
panoramic.
Also: who is that dude from the epilogue? That's the guy from the first episode which went crazy right? Didnt he die?
And what are those signs on the trees?
If I am not supposed to know (like it has only been mentioned in the comics etc.), I don't want to know
panoramic.
Also: who is that dude from the epilogue? That's the guy from the first episode which went crazy right? Didnt he die?
And what are those signs on the trees?
If I am not supposed to know (like it has only been mentioned in the comics etc.), I don't want to know
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