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[turtle553]

Are you saying that just because of what people say or wear they should be harassed on the street? If someone jumps in your face with a camera while you're walking home and just starts taking multiple pictures, you're just going to silently walk by?

Like I said before, if that's the one picture he got of that woman, he had been framing her up for a minute. She is charging him in that photo. This isn't a simple case of taking your phone out and snapping a quick photo.

Really you think he had his camera on her for a whole minute before that picture?

I'm saying that no matter what he did as long as it wasn't physical, there is no reason for her to assault him. That is where this victim blaming comes in with people sating he deserved it. And look how far away she was with that picture. He certainly wasn't in her face.

 

[antigoon]

You know, every single situation does not require someone to "play devil's advocate."

 

[foxtrot3d]

Bill's called him out at least once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqWM8rwpHMQ

Bill is the man but he only appears every so often, Patrice was basically the real third host, not Jim Norton. When Patrice was alive he could call bullshit on Anthony's shit and turn it into some of the best radio you ever listened to. His race converations with Anthony are just legendary as he would just demolish Anthony and even convince him that his side was right. When Patrice was alive Anthony used to be funny, now he just rants all day.

Now, Anthony is free to have his dreams of the race riots everyday where he saves the young white girl from a pack of black people with his crossbow.

 

[Enzom21]

In general it is OK to be racist as long as you are not discriminating against someone for hiring or the like. People are free not to listen to his show or follow him on twitter.

But absolutely no reason for physical assault.

Being a racist isn't okay at all. What the hell are you talking about?

 

[pj]

Are you saying that just because of what people say or wear they should be harassed on the street? If someone jumps in your face with a camera while you're walking home and just starts taking multiple pictures, you're just going to silently walk by?

Like I said before, if that's the one picture he got of that woman, he had been framing her up for a minute. She is charging him in that photo. This isn't a simple case of taking your phone out and snapping a quick photo.

But whatever, personal space and general respect. Fuck it right? Who cares, we have the RIGHT to be assholes to people in public, and fuck what other people think.

I don't know about you, but I'd be less creeped out by a person with a big camera framing a shot as I walked by than someone whipping out their iphone quickly to take a picture of me. If someone took a quick photo of me I'd assume my zipper was down and my balls were exposed or something. The appropriate reaction to someone with a big camera taking photos in NYC is to roll your eyes and ruin the shot if you can.

If I had to rank every location in the world where I'd expect to be photographed constantly and to have zero personal space, times square would probably end up in the top 5.

 

[Mesoian]

Really you think he had his camera on her for a whole minute before that picture?

I'm saying that no matter what he did as long as it wasn't physical, there is no reason for her to assault him. That is where this victim blaming comes in with people sating he deserved it. And look how far away she was with that picture. He certainly wasn't in her face.

Ok.

 

[vas_a_morir]

To be honest, when I read the title I was expecting him finally to have snapped and actually gone on a legit racist tirade like Michael Richards. Instead, I got him tweeting the same things he's said for 20 years on the show. He's said things I'd consider more offensive and cringe-worthy on the show. (But not too much worse, honestly.)

The racist thing is partly schtick, but based on real feelings and opinions for sure. Having him and Patrice on the show together all those years was pretty much the funniest shit I've ever heard in my life. They would play off Anthony being racist for laughs all the time. For example, the classic bit Nazi vs. Nigga Taxi Challenge

 

[Barbacoatl]

I also prohibit anyone taking my picture, not because I'm an insecure turtle or have something to hide, but because my beauty could blind the photographer.

 

[Father_Brain]

This man has the soul of a poet.

 

[jon bones]

In general it is OK to be racist as long as you are not discriminating against someone for hiring or the like.

LOL

 

[turtle553]

Being a racist isn't okay at all. What the hell are you talking about?

I'm saying in general it is legal to be a racist. As long as you don't discriminate in situations where you have power over others (boss, landlord, police). It is definitely distasteful and not good, but people are allowed.

And once again you can't assault someone for being racist. That's why the KKK get police protection during protests even though they advocate a terrible ideology.

 

[JDSN]

In general it is OK to be racist as long as you are not discriminating against someone for hiring or the like.

I see.

 

[Messofanego]

Bill's called him out at least once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqWM8rwpHMQ

I don't why I listened to the whole thing, but now I have more respect for Bill Burr. He's rational. At least Anthony is completely open about his racism so it's easier to avoid him in anything.

 

[Enzom21]

I'm saying in general it is legal to be a racist. As long as you don't discriminate in situations where you have power over others (boss, landlord, police). It is definitely distasteful and not good, but people are allowed.

And once again you can't assault someone for being racist. That's why the KKK get police protection during protests even though they advocate a terrible ideology.

You didn't write anything about it being legal, you wrote it was "OK" to be a racist. I also never wrote that it was okay to assault someone for being a racist.

 

[kirigiri]

I'm saying in general it is legal to be a racist. As long as you don't discriminate in situations where you have power over others (boss, landlord, police). It is definitely distasteful and not good, but people are allowed.

And once again you can't assault someone for being racist. That's why the KKK get police protection during protests even though they advocate a terrible ideology.

What is the point of being a poor excuse for a devil's advocate for something like this? Who cares? This is cut-and-dry.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Racism is just a natural part of human anger!

... what the fuck am I reading?

 

[vas_a_morir]

... what the fuck am I reading?

Satire. The exclamation point should have tipped it off.

 

[foxtrot3d]

... what the fuck am I reading?

Satire.

 

[DoktorEvil]

So you're saying they don't deserve it?

Are you putting words into my mouth or creating implication that I'm a racist?

I reverse my opinion on the subject.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

Both are in the wrong. You don't say the words he said and if you're her you don't put your hands on him. All she did was give him ammunition for his show.

I'd probably swing if somebody called me a nigger

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Satire. The exclamation point should have tipped it off.

I see.

 

[Enzom21]

Are you putting words into my mouth or creating implication that I'm a racist?

I reverse my opinion on the subject.

It looked like he was asking you your opinion.

 

[antigoon]

What is the point of being a poor excuse for a devil's advocate for something like this? Who cares? This is cut-and-dry.

This is what I was trying to say. What's the point in muddying the decision just for argument's sake?

 

[anaron]

Basically:

Geez, I wonder how she could POSSIBLY be upset.

What an asshole.

 

[anaron]

... what the fuck am I reading?

He's making fun of the idiots who spout this rhetoric.

 

[firen]

We are living in a strange backward world. Where people support the attacker & the victim is the villain. Enjoy!

What a strange obscured view on the event. Sure that lady probably shouldn't have punched him in the face but man are people just missing the point. On multiple occasions he is blaming the whole black community on this incident and he claims he's trying to "address the issue" but can't because he's being called out for exactly what he is. WTF?

 

[akira28]

if he was anything but an angry troll he could have apologized for the misunderstanding, asked where she was going for the night, offered to buy her some drinks.

'I'm sorry baby I wasn't taking a picture of you, but maybe I should. You look good' etc.

edit:

I had no idea...

The 53-year-old host

that he was this old, or that that's what he looked like.

 

[VistraNorrez]

It has just gotten increasingly harder to listen to Anthony. Which is a shame because the show is great when they have comedians interacting with one another, and Anthony can be funny.

One thing that really turned me off about Ant was when he tried to give allowances to the Nazis. His excuse was because Germany got such a bad deal after WWI that of course things went sour. He made it seem like the most reasonable thing. But forget trying to tell him that Black people were slaves for hundreds of years and only in the last 50 years did they get equal rights. To him they should just get over any racism. He's just so delusional and paranoid.

 

[Eighty Deuce]

He is very rich. Hes detailed on the show all of the forms and stuff hes had to go through to get it. He has quite a few cop friends, too, which I'm sure helped.

Only the wealthy and famous are allowed the right to carry in NYC. Fuck normal people

 

[DoktorEvil]

It looked like he was asking you your opinion.

I reserve it.

 

[Angelus Errare]

I'm going to be controversial and instead of the usual victim blaming, I'm going to attacker blame. Knowing how much of an asshole Anthony is and how he says whatever to who ever when ever. I'm willing to bet he took pictures of her, she told him stop, he continued and threw in some insults and racial slurs. She walked up to him most likely daring him to repeat the words in her face, he continued the verbal abuse pushing her out of his personal space and she wailed on his arm.

 

[vas_a_morir]

I'd probably swing if somebody called me a nigger

I think, if you are a reasonable person, you should do whatever it takes to avoid that. A person who would say this to you has already thrown away their dignity, don't let him take yours, too.

 

[pj]

It has just gotten increasingly harder to listen to Anthony. Which is a shame because the show is great when they have comedians interacting with one another, and Anthony can be funny.

One thing that really turned me off about Ant was when he tried to give allowances to the Nazis. His excuse was because Germany got such a bad deal after WWI that of course things went sour. He made it seem like the most reasonable thing. But forget trying to tell him that Black people were slaves for hundreds of years and only in the last 50 years did they get equal rights. To him they should just get over any racism. He's just so delusional and paranoid.

I think it's generally accepted that if germany hadn't been so fucked after WWI the nazis never would have come to power.

He's never had a rational thing to say about black people, though.

 

[akira28]

I'm going to be controversial and instead of the usual victim blaming, I'm going to attacker blame.

I prefer to imagine she decided to kick his ass and she was all 'that's my purse. I. don't. know. you!' But she was wearing the wrong shoes to knee him to the ground and stomp on his crotch.

I think, if you are a reasonable person, you should do whatever it takes to avoid that. A person who would say this to you has already thrown away their dignity, don't let him take yours, too.

well if we're in the public court, sure, dignity. But if we're in the street, a quick whop to the nose does wonders for one's dignity.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Not that you go to a show calle "opie & anthony" looking for anything resembling intelligent discourse, but still, you wouldn't expect the one named "OPIE" to be the (comparatively) smart one, right?

 

[pj]

I'm going to be controversial and instead of the usual victim blaming, I'm going to attacker blame. Knowing how much of an asshole Anthony is and how he says whatever to who ever when ever. I'm willing to bet he took pictures of her, she told him stop, he continued and threw in some insults and racial slurs. She walked up to him most likely daring him to repeat the words in her face, he continued the verbal abuse pushing her out of his personal space and she wailed on his arm.

We will have to wait until monday to get his full, non-twitterized, side of the story, but I don't expect him to lie about it. If anyone is looking to kill themselves with alcohol poisoning, try playing a drinking game where you drink every time he says "cunt", "savage" or "animal" on monday's show.

He is proud of his shitty beliefs and will certainly not regret any of his actions so I think he will tell the story accurately.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

Not that you go to a show calle "opie & anthony" looking for anything resembling intelligent discourse, but still, you wouldn't expect the one named "OPIE" to be the (comparatively) smart one, right?

This is hilarious to anyone who's familiar with the show.

But I do get your point.

 

[capslock]

He certainly has a face for radio.

 

[PsychBat!]

Are you putting words into my mouth or creating implication that I'm a racist?

I reverse my opinion on the subject.

dance, emo peter, dance!

 

[pj]

Not that you go to a show calle "opie & anthony" looking for anything resembling intelligent discourse, but still, you wouldn't expect the one named "OPIE" to be the (comparatively) smart one, right?

You can be a smart racist. Pretty much any smart white person born before 1950 was a smart racist.

Anthony is by far the smarter of the duo, even though he is a high school dropout and Opie is a college graduate.

 

[Higgy]

Anthony savors the fact that he won't apologize and grovel when he believes he has the right to say things out loud in public. Usually these blow backs get people stumbling all over themselves to apologize. O and A won't get taken down by this. They will say fuck you before you finish your sentence. Not even top 20 of the shit they've done.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

I think, if you are a reasonable person, you should do whatever it takes to avoid that. A person who would say this to you has already thrown away their dignity, don't let him take yours, too.

Maybe I'm just young and dumb but if somebody calls me a nigger I'm most likely going to swing unless there's kids around.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Maybe I'm just young and dumb but if somebody calls me a nigger I'm most likely going to swing unless there's kids around.

You could get sued and lose some assets. I know you love assets.

 

[Enzom21]

I reserve it.

Don't want a repeat of the nonsense you wrote in that fashion thread huh?

 

[Ysiadmihi]

Anthony savors the fact that he won't apologize and grovel when he believes he has the right to say things out loud in public. Usually these blow backs get people stumbling all over themselves to apologize. O and A won't get taken down by this. They will say fuck you before you finish your sentence. Not even top 20 of the shit they've done.

They apologized for the Homeless Charlie incident, and it wasn't even their words that got them into trouble. This is way worse, and they'll do another fake apology like they did then if this gets any decent traction.

 

[OriginalNameGuy]

I'd probably swing if somebody called me a nigger

And you could find yourself in jail for swinging at someone. Laws protect the dregs of society as well.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

And you could find yourself in jail for swinging at someone. Laws protect the dregs of society as well.

I'll take the slim risk. I've seen a ton of fights and the only time I saw people arrested were if they were drunk at a bar, I guess it depends where you live. Excuse me for not wanting to be called a nigger. Heck, I just went to a huge music festival in downtown Columbus last weekend, witnessed a guy yell at his girl that he was leaving to get his gun, come back, and just get talked to by the police. No arrests.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Don't want a repeat of the nonsense you wrote in that fashion thread huh?

You got a problem with me?

People make dumb comments all of the time. I made mine and paid the price for it.

 

[Enzom21]

You got a problem with me?

No, just the nonsense you post at times.

 

[Stet]

Not a chance. This isn't any worse than anything else he's actually said on the air.

Why are people so excited to get other people fired?

Just live your life.

yeah and why isn't "live and let them be racist" not catching on as a slogan