He wasnt. Im just saying what really has Ron done that is so bad? Yeah in the context of a basketball game it was stupid, but if you are in a bar and some dude throws a drink at someone and proceeds to get his ass kicked is that so bad? Didnt he deserve it?KingGondo said:*Assuming that guy Ron went after was actually the guy who threw the beer.
Ninja Scooter said:He wasnt. Im just saying what really has Ron done that is so bad? Yeah in the context of a basketball game it was stupid, but if you are in a bar and some dude throws a drink at someone and proceeds to get his ass kicked is that so bad? Didnt he deserve it?
Of course it is, but what I am saying is is it so bad that 5 years later the guy can't have gotten his shit together and win an award for his charity work? He didn't kill or rape anyone, or run an illegal dog fighting ring, or watch his two friends stab a dude to death, or have sex with a 15 year old prostitute.Grimm Fandango said:It's absolutely inexcusable to go into the stands like that. He should have controlled himself and let security handle it.
Going into the stands like that totally leveled the field between players and fans.
Ninja Scooter said:Of course it is, but what I am saying is is it so bad that 5 years later the guy can't have gotten his shit together and win an award for his charity work? He didn't kill or rape anyone, or run an illegal dog fighting ring, or watch his two friends stab a dude to death, or have sex with a 15 year old prostitute.
reilo said:And that suddenly is enough to overcome his past and current transgressions?
This is the equivalent of giving an award to Bristol Palin for her amazing contributions to the anti-teen-pregnancy movement.
exarkun said:Fuck you guys, I love Inside the NBA but I don't get cable until finals are over. Is it good tonight? Has Charles said anything of relevance in terms of actual commentating about the playoffs that I should know about?
Man, I miss the show. Only thing on cable I really really miss. That, and HD basketball games.
Who even mentioned Camby or the Blazers? Get your mouth off my dick already in regards to my team.Black Mamba said:Your arguments are continually grounded on astounding logic.
Camby didn't win a citizenship award. This is so unfair. Boo Hoo. Woe is the life of a Blazer fan.
Allegations are just that allegations, and Artest punching some asshole fan that think he owns you because he bought a $75 dollar ticket makes me lose no sleep.reilo said:Who even mentioned Camby or the Blazers? Get your mouth off my dick already in regards to my team.
You guys defended Kobe after his rape allegations, and now are defending the crazy shit Ron pulled at the Palace? Wow. I don't want to ever hear any one of you dudes talking about another fan being too in love with a player because he's on their team. You guys take it to the extreme.
Shit, I didn't even defend Zach Randolph while on the Blazers and the shit he did is minor in compared to what Kobe and Artest pulled off. I don't even want to imagine the type of contortion act you'd pull if Vick was on a LA NFL team to suck his dick after the pitbull incident. You guys are shameless, but of course I shouldn't expect any better of Lakers fans.
Then you're no better than the asshole fan nor Ron Artest. Good job. You're all assholes.Darkman M said:Allegations are just that allegations, and Artest punching some asshole fan that think he owns you because he bought a $75 dollar ticket makes me lose no sleep.
Oh I don't know. I'm sure if I bothered to do the research I could pull up any number of players that do a ton for their community.numble said:reilo: Which player has contributed more towards community service this year?
What? What the fuck?numble said:Odom gets the 6th Man for his work this year, primarily as a 6th Man, despite his past as a primary starter.
Artest gets the community service award for the work done this year in community service.
Yes, it's not the NBA Hall of Fame. They are awarded for what they did that year. Same as Coach of the Year, MVP, etc.reilo said:Oh I don't know. I'm sure if I bothered to do the research I could pull up any number of players that do a ton for their community.
But of course Lakers fans will come back with the $650k figure as some sort of "absolute fact" that Artest did the "most". It's a sad time when we commend players for donating a whopping 1% of the total salary they earned throughout their playing career as some grand gesture of generosity.
What? What the fuck?
reilo said:Who even mentioned Camby or the Blazers? Get your mouth off my dick already in regards to my team.
You guys defended Kobe after his rape allegations, and now are defending the crazy shit Ron pulled at the Palace? Wow. I don't want to ever hear any one of you dudes talking about another fan being too in love with a player because he's on their team. You guys take it to the extreme.
Shit, I didn't even defend Zach Randolph while on the Blazers and the shit he did is minor in compared to what Kobe and Artest pulled off. I don't even want to imagine the type of contortion act you'd pull if Vick was on a LA NFL team to suck his dick after the pitbull incident. You guys are shameless, but of course I shouldn't expect any better of Lakers fans.
Oh I don't know.
Indeed he is guilty of cheating on his wife, but people make mistakes, Artest has definitely made a huge effort to be a better person even with all his mental issues, don't see how you can hate the guy over what happened 6 or so years ago.reilo said:Then you're no better than the asshole fan nor Ron Artest. Good job. You're all assholes.
And even if we leave the allegations to the side, the fact of the matter is that he still cheated on his wife. You can keep focusing on the allegations all you want. Doesn't make him less of a shitty human being.
I didn't even know Camby was nominated until you mentioned it. So quit that shit.Black Mamba said:Please, let's not pretend that you would care if Ron had won if Camby wasn't nominated. This is who you are. Always complaining about a Blazer being slighted.
Hop off that Blazer dick already. Nobody mentioned Camby nor the team.I said your logic was astounding. And it is. As if past discretions matter in a yearly award. Even your Palin argument was stupid, and you just made me use Palin in a non-condescending tone towards her, so your comment was twice as awful as a normal comment.
I have never and will never defend what Ron did at the Palace. But what happened at the Palace has absolutely nothing to do with his contributions to society in the past 365 days.
I'm not going to sit here and argue that Ron should have won the award. I don't know the criteria and how they measure candidates. I only understand that charity work and societal contributions matter and Ron has done that in a noticeable way without being a detriment in the same time frame. I'm certain the other nominees did too. Insttead of whining about another Blazer being slighted in your eyes, why not just say "it's good to see Ron turned his life around."
Six years? The guy was sentenced and sent to jail for domestic abuse just three seasons ago.Darkman M said:Indeed he is guilty of cheating on his wife, but people make mistakes, Artest has definitely made a huge effort to be a better person even with all his mental issues, don't see how you can hate the guy over what happened 6 or so years ago.
But keep on trucking! I eagerly await Lakers fans comments about Artest once he starts souring up the lockerroom and gets his ass traded. Rockets fans loved him at one point, too, until he showed up on a team bus carrying the owner in his underwear.
They didn't even like him until they beat Boston last year. Winning cures everything, apparently.SamuraiX- said:SMH @ all the Lakers fan defending Ron-Ron.
I wish I could have seen your reactions when that incident first happened and compare that to how you felt when he signed with LA up until now.
As opposed to your "that's all in the past" argument?Black Mamba said:Did Reilo just bring up infidelity for a sports athlete.
Oh, brother.
A bunch of Rocket fans still like him.
He helped us win a title. But is this what your argument boils down to? We will someday dislike him?
le sigh.
SamuraiX- said:SMH @ all the Lakers fan defending Ron-Ron.
I wish I could have seen your reactions when that incident first happened and compare that to how you felt when he signed with LA up until now.
I've had pro-Ron posts ever since he was on the Rockets. Maybe it's the Queens thing. I live in Queens now.reilo said:They didn't even like him until they beat Boston last year. Winning cures everything, apparently.
As opposed to your "that's all in the past" argument?
numble said:I've had pro-Ron posts ever since he was on the Rockets. Maybe it's the Queens thing. I live in Queens now.
Well I like the crazy stuff. I like Odom too, who is crazy in a different way.The Stealth Fox said:Ron Artest showed up on a team bus in his underwear right in front of the owner. He's still a little crazy.
Black Mamba said:I'm not defending Ron-Ron doing what he did back then. I'm defending the right to be nominated for an award based on the past 365 days.
Ron deserved the punishment from that incident and what he did was wrong.
Going into the stands was crazy/wrong but I understood why he did it and he was punished hard by stern, what's the problem here?SamuraiX- said:SMH @ all the Lakers fan defending Ron-Ron.
I wish I could have seen your reactions when that incident first happened and compare that to how you felt when he signed with LA up until now.
SamuraiX- said:So you'd be cool if Chris Anderson somehow won it next season?
If he was doing a lot of charity work (beyond the mandatory "NBA Cares" stuff that is required by the CBA), and did nothing bad that year, why not?SamuraiX- said:So you'd be cool if Chris Anderson somehow won it next season?
Ninja Scooter said:Of course it is, but what I am saying is is it so bad that 5 years later the guy can't have gotten his shit together and win an award for his charity work? He didn't kill or rape anyone, or run an illegal dog fighting ring, or watch his two friends stab a dude to death, or have sex with a 15 year old prostitute.
thekad said:Lakers fans with no moral compass.
dream said:That goddamn Champions song.
Hitting that 3.
Is this a "those are no big deal, you're all blowing shit out of proportion" post?SUPREME1 said:Let's list all of Ron's transgressions!!
Palace Brawl
Domestic Abuse
Animal Abuse
dream said:That goddamn Champions song.
Hitting that 3.
reilo said:Is this a "those are no big deal, you're all blowing shit out of proportion" post?
Yeah I hate Ron so I was disappointed when I heard that song was by him, it's actually good...SUPREME1 said:Fuck you man. That's the sole reason he should be forgiven for everything.
Dream if it comes to that I'll voluntarily call social services and put myself on their list.dream said:My man, you're only a few steps away from being a brony and it worries me.