2011 Q1 European Sales and more...
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StealthGoblin
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Then throw in that in Japan, the PSP was a beast in 2010. It was the top selling console there. Big turn around for them there in that region.
Things could be worse in Sony land at present (barring PSN dying). PSP and PS3 doing well, NGP launching soonish. PlayStation Content on more platforms than ever before. Home pulling in lots of money. Strong line up of games for PS3, PSP and NGP. Etc.
I thought Kinect would have a bigger effect in the EU than it appears to have done. I knew it would sink in Japan. I wonder how well the PS3 would have done with a higher quality range of games for Move, and a bit more marketing. Hmm.
Galvanise_ said:
Erm...to properly gauge the effect of Kinect you need to compare it to how the 360 was selling relative to the PS3 before the introduction of Kinect.
Since this is a Q1 2011 result, the appropriate comparison would be against Q1 2010, then you can be able to discern if the Kinect has made any significant impact or not.
So this is why Nintendo didn't wait to announce their new home console. They are selling less than the 360 in Europe when last year they were the #1 in Europe by far.
Congrats to THQ for the success they had with Homefront. They did a great job with marketing and once again this shows reviews doesn't matter that much if you have a big marketing budget. Now THQ has the problem of convincing people to buy Homefront 2 after being disappointed with the first game.
Surprised to see LBP2 so high in some of those charts, it felt like the game never had any hype around it unlike the first game. And apparently Killzone 3 isn't a "bomba" like so many people proclaimed it. Oh well maybe next time...
Since Kinect Adventures + Kinect Sensor Bar is the only 360 game in the Spanish chart, I could argue it had a big effect. It's maybe not as big as people would have thought but you have to take in account that in some European countries the Xbox was known as "the other console that it's not a Playstation".
Congrats to THQ for the success they had with Homefront. They did a great job with marketing and once again this shows reviews doesn't matter that much if you have a big marketing budget. Now THQ has the problem of convincing people to buy Homefront 2 after being disappointed with the first game.
Surprised to see LBP2 so high in some of those charts, it felt like the game never had any hype around it unlike the first game. And apparently Killzone 3 isn't a "bomba" like so many people proclaimed it. Oh well maybe next time...
Galvanise_ said:
Since Kinect Adventures + Kinect Sensor Bar is the only 360 game in the Spanish chart, I could argue it had a big effect. It's maybe not as big as people would have thought but you have to take in account that in some European countries the Xbox was known as "the other console that it's not a Playstation".
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Wow PSP has 9 of the 20 spots of best selling titles in Japan, in 2011!
I almost don't believe it, crazy stuff.
Still surprised Ninokuni wasn't monstrous in Japan considering the DS+RPG+Level-5+Ghibli combination. Anybody have any final numbers for it? Was it considerably more expensive at retail compared to 'standard' priced DS games?
I almost don't believe it, crazy stuff.
Still surprised Ninokuni wasn't monstrous in Japan considering the DS+RPG+Level-5+Ghibli combination. Anybody have any final numbers for it? Was it considerably more expensive at retail compared to 'standard' priced DS games?
pharmboy044
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You know I've noticed this trend even though people claim this is mostly a pro Sony site.Canova said:
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onQ123 said:
lol
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Psychotext
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A close fight at the moment. Wii has really dropped off a cliff though.
Would be interesting to see the 2010 numbers for comparison (if anyone is willing to pixel count them too).
Would be interesting to see the 2010 numbers for comparison (if anyone is willing to pixel count them too).
StealthGoblin
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scently said:
Thats a fair point. My reasoning was based on:
- PS3 being more expensive.
- Move software being less 'wow' than Kinect.
- Kinect marketing being everywhere.
- Europe loves the Wii, loves Singstar, Just Dance and LOVED Eyetoy.
- Impressive Kinect numbers.
It just seemed perfect for the 360+Kinect to do some mega numbers. Maybe its existing 360 owners that have been buying into it in a big way, instead of new users?
Hiro_Kunimi_80
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NHale said:
just because, like in italy, you can't download the sensor bar from the net
piracy has too much impact on sw sales for Spain and Italy for X360, it's an easy win see the sensor bar like the first SW title for X360Also it's a shame that chart track doesn't track the kinect sensor bar sales along with adventure
Tylahedras
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If true, those are very impressive numbers for Sony. Much higher then I would have expected.
OK, this a weird top 20 or else the recent March NPD is very poor. I mean Homefront 360 version is at #8, but Dragon Age II which was one place after Homefront in the NPD doesn't show up here. The split between platforms must be unsual for no version to show, or that it really didn't sell that well.
Adding to that is the case of Bulletstorm. In Feb. NPD the game sold only 285.6K copies across 3 platforms. It wasn't in the top 10 of the March NPD and its not probable the game did extremely well in its second month, but the 360 version closes the chart at #20? WTF? Better than what DA2 did either on 360 or PS3 in its #4 debut in the March NPD? I'm not even going to think what it means for the version of Crysis 2 which afterall were on sale for 2 weeks in that NPD period.
Either this Nintendo chart is inaccurate (highly unlikely, it's straight from the NPD group) or that the March NPD software numbers are pretty weak *gulp*.
Nintendo's previous charts from NPD have not combined multiple versions (e.g: limited edition) of the same game. NPD combines them for their monthly top 10. But I guess the explanation here is really on platform share: Homefront and Bulletstorm sold a lot more for the 360, while Dragon Age II had a more even split.Saty said:
I don't know if the March NPD was weak, but Just Dance 2 sold around 300k in that Month it did not make the multiplatform top 10. We also know Killzone 3 has sold around 500k so far, which provides us with an idea of how much the games above it have sold this year.
Augemitbutter
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how long have they been releasing numbers in this format? i saved a few from last year, they're pretty nice.
So, PS3 is doing really well then, even at the higher price point.
How likely is it that we see a price cut for it this year? I was originally thinking it would drop to £199 by September. I wanted to get my older brother a console and I can imagine some really good deals around November time. The free online and blu-ray makes it a no brainer as a gift. Right now, there aren't many cheap deals without the Move (which he won't care for). The best you can hope for is around £230.
I was sure a price cut would happen this year, but this doesn't exactly scream out to me that one is undoubtedly happening if they're remaining this competitive and outselling the competition. For all I know, they stick to their guns and make some more money, if it continues to perform well, then drop it next year.
I will continue to hope though. One day it will drop a little more. And that day is sometime this year. I believe.
How likely is it that we see a price cut for it this year? I was originally thinking it would drop to £199 by September. I wanted to get my older brother a console and I can imagine some really good deals around November time. The free online and blu-ray makes it a no brainer as a gift. Right now, there aren't many cheap deals without the Move (which he won't care for). The best you can hope for is around £230.
I was sure a price cut would happen this year, but this doesn't exactly scream out to me that one is undoubtedly happening if they're remaining this competitive and outselling the competition. For all I know, they stick to their guns and make some more money, if it continues to perform well, then drop it next year.
I will continue to hope though. One day it will drop a little more. And that day is sometime this year. I believe.
makingmusic476
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Wow. LittleBigPlanet 2 did really damn well in the UK. Third across all formats.
wrowa said:
Of course, it's not interesting because the Sony systems were gaining marketshare since the last 2 years. Then again, I suspect the majority of the media create regulars during 07-08 don't really have much to say nowadays, which explains why it's so quiet.
People have much more to say in the NPD threads in the last few months for obvious reasons. lol
Augemitbutter
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makingmusic476 said:
well deserved! i just beat the story mode yesterday
i'm sure it'll pop back into the charts across europe over the next weeks or even months again.Stumpokapow
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pharmboy044 said:
Put up or shut up. If there's a specific poster who is being disingenuous or saying things that are false, argue against them.
If not, stop being jerks to posters who are trying to discuss things and stirring up an artificial console war.
mujun said:
Don't encourage them
Stumpokapow said:
Sales-age threads are filled with one-liners that add nothing but ignorance to the discussion and only serve to show that person's bias (as the post you replied to, btw). That's probably 90% of these threads, which are numerous in posts and nearly empty in actually interesting discussion.
Arguing against that part of NeoGAF's culture is impossible. Only the mods can change that.
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Massa said:Sales-age threads are filled with one-liners that add nothing but ignorance to the discussion and only serve to show that person's bias (as the post you replied to, btw). That's probably 90% of these threads, which are numerous in posts and nearly empty in actually interesting discussion.
Arguing against that part of NeoGAF's culture is impossible. Only the mods can change that.
For what it's worth, the empty "GO <x> GO!!!" stuff is low content fluff as well, but benignly useless posts are much better than hostile, bitter, passive-aggressive ones and we've gotta start somewhere.
If you have any further input feel free to PM me or any other mods rather than continuing to reply here.
AranhaHunter
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Road said:
I'm really surprised that the PS3 is leading all home consoles this year. "Europe" is kinda tricky though, MS, Sony and Nintendo all possibly count different countries when mentioning Europe.
Also, the PSP is not doing as horrible as I was led to believe.
Parmenides
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French said:
Bloomberg:Sony's Tretton Interview About Gaming Unit From March 10
Several weeks later,Mr. Tretton said We're just hitting our stride,and that massive investment we made rolling that rock up the hill with the big financial investment of PlayStation 3, and that technological innovation, is something were going to reap dividends on for many,many years . Fortunately,its been steady growth for the past four years,and we anticipate strong growth again in the next fiscal year., he added.
Fast Company:Jack Tretton on 3-D Gaming and Sony's Strategies
Assuming Mr. Tretton knows what he's talking about,Sony probably reached its PS3 FY 2010 sales target (15m),and expects to sell 16/17 million PS3s in FY 2011,so
On a side note:
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PS3 Worldwide Hardware Sales
Sell-through (*) Sell-in
(Ja-Mr) 2008 1.9 2.2
(Ja-Mr) 2011 2.4 ?
(*)Europe+Japan+U.S.REMEMBER CITADEL
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Let me preface this by saying I believe Sony will drop the PS3 price by up to $50 this year, unless the earthquakes and the PSN attacks, both of which have happened in April, caused too much damage. Now...
What is he really talking about here when he mentions steady growth? Income growth or PS3 sales growth? Because it's not clear from the interview and one doesn't necessarily imply the other, especially with NGP entering the equation.
As for your side note, I suppose you're trying to imply that Sony has managed to ship more than 2.4 million PS3s this past quarter. That may very well be true, but let me remind you that the number also depends on the previous quarter. If channel stuffing took place during the previous quarter, there would be no clear correlation between the sell-through and the sell-in number. In any case, we'll find out in one month's time.
Parmenides said:
What is he really talking about here when he mentions steady growth? Income growth or PS3 sales growth? Because it's not clear from the interview and one doesn't necessarily imply the other, especially with NGP entering the equation.
As for your side note, I suppose you're trying to imply that Sony has managed to ship more than 2.4 million PS3s this past quarter. That may very well be true, but let me remind you that the number also depends on the previous quarter. If channel stuffing took place during the previous quarter, there would be no clear correlation between the sell-through and the sell-in number. In any case, we'll find out in one month's time.
specialguy
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I was wondering how come we didn't get these Nintendo charts last quarter? Or is it just nobody posted them?
Nintendo does release them every quarter, right?
Nintendo does release them every quarter, right?
BishopLamont
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They don't always release them, I recall the lack of these charts when they last had their investors meeting. Basically Nintendo won't really pull up charts if there's not much to talk about, they usually focus on userbase demography instead.specialguy said:
akilshohen
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really interesting. Dance Cental and Marvel doing well in the US. I would really like to see how it looks when MK9 is added in the mix
Phoenician_Viking
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NZ is middle earth so noRaonak said:
like a dragon
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pseudocaesar said:
Impressive. This is really a great accomplishment for Sony.
The PS3 is still the most expensive console yet it outsells its competition. I guess quality and brand recognition plays a huge role in this.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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This more or less vindicates that fact that MS should have concentrated on continental Europe instead of throwing buckets of money at Japan. (Although this netted 360 owners a few nice exclusives.)
Anasui Kishibe
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never doubted JD2, everyone has it here
and Zumba. Fucking Zumba.
and Zumba. Fucking Zumba.