Atlanta would have to be Josh Smith dumb to take that trade.
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2013 Feb NBA Season lOT| Controlling it like a man, bruh
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Adam Blade
WWKC
I don't think you guys are beating miami...not unless something major happens to lebron. I see okc as the bulls in the 80s. Jordan couldn't win till magic started declining. Unfortunately, the west ain't doing you guys any favors either. Spurs are a trade away from being unstoppable, nuggets are coming up, the clippers have chris paul and minnesota next season will have a healthy love/rubio/perk.
So they play the play the total opposite against the Heat?
Not disagreeing with you. We need an added dimension or an injury to Bosh to have a fighting chance.
Wouldn't be surprised at all if Presti makes a move. We have lots of assets.
Hack a Shaq and why would any one want D'eandre's contract?
LyleLanley
Banned
I thought the rumor was that KG wouldn't accept a trade if Pierce was staying in Boston.
Total Opposite would be a kind statement.
Durant got 28 points in garbage time while behind 20 points and nobody defending him b/c nonone wanted to risk a foul and the game was already over.
Raptors did better against the Heat.
Diprosalic
Banned
i really don't want to see it happen.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Inbound full court alley oops
Honestly I would hate to see KG go, so I wouldn't be upset if he held up a trade for that reason. But you never know, maybe he has a change of heart after the all-star break.
Hey, I am only quoting a Clipper. Direct your hate at your own player.
How much longer do you have to wear your avatar?
Adam Blade
WWKC
Yeah.
Probably till next season starts.
Sigh.
I just found this. WTF was Odom doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEqE1IfwXUE
friskykillface
Banned
trading Jeff Green now while hes actually good ? lol Ainge :/
fuck Josh Smith
trade Bass for Smith though
fuck Josh Smith
trade Bass for Smith though
thats a key component of fuckball, But it doesnt surprise you prefer watching missed shots
do you also like triple team fadeaway long 2 point shots?
Would you rather have traded him when his stock was low and got a shitty return? Sell high, get a proven guy like Smith.trading Jeff Green now while hes actually good ? lol Ainge :/
fuck Josh Smith
trade Bass for Smith though
hahahaha i saw this on realgm
Celts17Pride said:
sully00 said:
did blakley really think KG had the second worst d rating on the team? :lol
2 problems. Josh Smith wants max. Josh Smith has his head up his ass and takes KG jumpers and 3's on offense for no apparent reason.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
You guys are insane. DeRozan's really come on this season, and was able to plow through double teams and carry the load as primary scorer for most of the year on a team with nobody else who could create their own shot (Lowry & Bargs missed a ton of games to injury). He's worked his ass off and added something to his game every season.
And give me a break on the "but Allen's a super rare elite defender" stuff.
3% difference over 100 possessions , which is obviously offset several times over by the difference in their own TS% and offensive production. And keep in mind Allen's played on great defensive teams with talented bigs to back stop him, while DeRozan's been playing with Andrea Bargnani and Jose Calderon. And he still has the superior OPP SG PER
There's a reason why at age 23 DeRozan has already started more NBA games than Allen has in 9 years.
And give me a break on the "but Allen's a super rare elite defender" stuff.
Code:
Opp SG eFG%/PER
Allen: .451/12.3 PER
DeRozan: .485/ 11.8 PER3% difference over 100 possessions , which is obviously offset several times over by the difference in their own TS% and offensive production. And keep in mind Allen's played on great defensive teams with talented bigs to back stop him, while DeRozan's been playing with Andrea Bargnani and Jose Calderon. And he still has the superior OPP SG PER
There's a reason why at age 23 DeRozan has already started more NBA games than Allen has in 9 years.
*finally hits a fade away with one foot on the 3 point line*
"THAT'S HIS SHOT!"
It's no use. I posted up all the advanced stats on Reddit. I have -20 down votes currently. They down vote you until the post collapses so nobody can see it.
Nobody wants to hear it apparently.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
MJ,Bron and Pippen clubbing I guess
LiveFromKyoto
Member
It's all good. The first game back from the All Star break just happens to be Memphis @ Toronto. I am gonna be there and I will be drunk as fuck and psych the hell out of Allen.
Then the world will see who is the true fist of the north star.
MJ,Bron and Pippen clubbing I guess
"You know I was playin when I said Kobe is better than you right, King?"
LiveFromKyoto
Member
MJ,Bron and Pippen clubbing I guess
Kobe was sad at first when he wasn't invited, but he got a shit ton of kills in DOTA that night so he soon forgot all about it
theignoramus
Member
Those defensive stats are weird, they say Allen is only marginally better than Derozan on D but it doesnt match up with what my eyes see when I watch them at that end of the floor. Must be due to Allen being assigned to better scorers
LiveFromKyoto
Member
I'm not going to argue that he isn't better on D, or that he isn't valuable. But he's also so limited that he's only averaged 20 mpg for his career. His last two seasons that's gone up to 25-26, but his inability to score or spread the floor by hitting the 3 means coaches can't leave him out there for 36 minutes. He can't stay on the floor with the guy he's matched up against.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Individual defensive statistics are tough to measure because there's too much noise. I don't really think they're worth anything.
iamshadowlark
Banned
How weird in light of recent quotes.MJ,Bron and Pippen clubbing I guess
Psychological Intellect
Banned
What happened to the guy from the D-league that the Grizzles gave a couple 10 day contracts to? Did he get signed for the season?
Demar was guarding Lebron, Durant, Wade when they play here.
Tony Allen is a better defender than Demar, it's just not by as huge of a margin as everyone thinks.
Tony Allen has also been on nothing but good/great defensive teams since entering the league. Of course you are going to have good defensive stats when KG/Rondo/Marc Gasol and guys like that are there helping you.
Tony Allens was put onto a team that was going nowhere until they made a massive trade and won a championship. Then he somehow acts as if it was his sheer ability that allowed them to win.
He was injured and didn't play when they won the chip. Who is he kidding.
Tony Allen contributing to the chip.
seattle6418
Member
I had no idea until know that James fucking White was in the dunk contest.
I know he's 30 know, but still... dunk contest went from a "meh" to "can't wait" event.
Hopefully he puts on a show.
I know he's 30 know, but still... dunk contest went from a "meh" to "can't wait" event.
Hopefully he puts on a show.
ryutaro's mama
Member
MJ,Bron and Pippen clubbing I guess
Is that Bestbrook?
Did he make the secret club?!
U-C-L-A
Adam Blade
WWKC
I would agree with Rodeo in that you can't really believe in advanced defensive statistics.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Turns out MJ had his birthday party in Houston.
Can't find full body pics that show off his faded jeans to go with his black suit and jacket top.
Can't find full body pics that show off his faded jeans to go with his black suit and jacket top.
Red Blaster
Member
Carlos Boozer is a better defender than Lebron since his DRTG is lower
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
DeRozan's on/off defensive stats are really mediocre and his teams are consistently terrible on defense, but he's a SG on a team with Bargnani so I'm not sure he can be judged that well.
Tony Allen has Marc Gasol on his team, but none of the other players on the team other than him and Gasol are special defensively and yet they're 1st in defense despite also being first in offensive rebounding rate. Allen's defensive on/off stats have been great even when OJ Mayo was his backup.
Don't like either player that much though so whatever.
Is this how you will talk yourself out of a KG trade?
Tony Allen has Marc Gasol on his team, but none of the other players on the team other than him and Gasol are special defensively and yet they're 1st in defense despite also being first in offensive rebounding rate. Allen's defensive on/off stats have been great even when OJ Mayo was his backup.
Don't like either player that much though so whatever.
Is this how you will talk yourself out of a KG trade?
Iron E Man
Member
He's on team Jordan. Dez was there too.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Turns out MJ had his birthday party in Houston.
Can't find full body pics that show off his faded jeans to go with his black suit and jacket top.
What do these guys have in common?
Both born in the exact same State I was.
Both wear and promote Jordan Brand.
Both highly successful basketball players.
Both failed at marriage while Kobe came through in the clutch.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The Wizards have climbed to 5th in defense, what the fuck.