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49 percent of Americans agree with Trump's travel ban
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Dirtyshubb
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"Strongly or somewhat agree"
I can see it 'Well i mean i UNDERSTAND why they are doing it, we do need to protect our borders from terrorists (who can only be Muslims didnt you know)'
metalslimer
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Not surprising at all, not that it matters on the morality or constitutionality
Netherscourge
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And that's why all these protests and delays are ultimately meaningless.
He'll get his way and he'll be reelected.
People are drawn together through fear and hysteria.
He'll get his way and he'll be reelected.
People are drawn together through fear and hysteria.
cpp_is_king
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Rasmussen has it at 57%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...porary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...porary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens
Then I'm sure all of thedonald and /pol/ had a hand in this.
Mysterious
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Oh, that changes things. Only ~1000 people polled too. And people who would even find and participate in such a poll already have some interest in the topic.
Bitch Pudding
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You make that sound like this is a good thing. It is not. It's embarrassing low for a country who tought of themselves for decades as the "leader of fhe free world" and whose constitution includes the following:
”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Obliterator
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Doesn't surprise me at all. Like I was saying in a thread last night my entire Facebook feed is loving it
cereal_killerxx
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Agreed. There are far more liberals on GAF than conservatives.
As a Trump voter, I've supported a lot of his decisions but not all.
No we're not, we have good beer.
That was a phone poll conducted before the EO was issued.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
My entire FB feed is against it.
Don't trust FB feeds. Everyone sees a completely different reality.
In this case you're right though ;(
They are more important now than ever.
Argue them and show them why they're dumb.
Argue it disappassionately though. People start entrenching themselves when the other party starts to get mad at them and start to see the argument as a struggle for dominance rather than thinking it out.
It's not a self-sampling poll, is it?
UberTag
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And it's the aim of every Republican to keep them stupid.
Hence why Betsy DeVos is their champion of education.
Zepp Twofist
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Are we believing in polls again now? That worked out great in November.
TestOfTide
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This is the important take-away for me. 53% of Democrats are in full support of the Resistance. 51% of Republicans are a lost cause.
Somewhat agree/disagree is such a stupid term in my opinion. It could mean so many things:
- It could refer to people who agree some of the bullshit about "security", but take at least SOME issue with the detaining of Green Card holders.
- It could refer to people who tend to always "hope for the best" with whoever is POTUS and are sticking their heads in the sand rather than read up on how this is illegal
The focus for democrats should be maximizing turnout of that 53% of Democrats, winning over anyone who isn't that 51% of Republicans, and suppressing the votes of those 51% of Republicans.
Bitch Pudding
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Terrorist Havens? No futher questions.
Obliterator
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Of course they do. You live around / know liberals. I live around / know conservatives
That's my point I'm not surprised and I'm 100% willing to belive around half the country is down with it.
Dirtyshubb
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This is what worries me about how the world is currently going.
You have a lot of good people out there but you also have a bunch of indoctrinated, ignorant or straight up shit people who are going to vote in whoever appeals to their fears and prejudices.
Sadly those people and the way the voting systems are set up in the US and UK are enough to drown out the good peoples objections and so no matter how much we fight they can just continue to do what they want under the guise of 'for the good of OUR people'
CountAntonius
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You don't give up on something when things get bad. America has been in MUCH worse situations than now. Look at the people fighting back, the protests, the progress made in social issues over the last decade. There are a ton of good people out there still fighting the good fight. I think this country will get through this. People on the left didn't believe Trump would win. I think many of them took that for granted. GAF was laughing all the way to the bank till reality hit. Now we know they can can lose and what's at stake and I think the next time around those terrible voter numbers will climb and it will be in favor of the democrats. Trump was a wake up call.
skullmuffins
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oh my god stop with this. the polls were not drastically wrong. they were off by a couple of percentage points.
the 538, etc. "percent chance to win" models are not polls.
TestOfTide
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Does anyone know where I can find the actual breakdown between all 5 catregories?
How many of those 49% "strongly agree" and how many only "somewhat agree"?
Because honestly I would say that the only people that take ZERO issue with the EO are the ones who "strongly agree".
How many of those 49% "strongly agree" and how many only "somewhat agree"?
Because honestly I would say that the only people that take ZERO issue with the EO are the ones who "strongly agree".
FinalStageBoss
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Garbage. They're all garbage.
Lightning_Roller
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49% of Americans are ignorant, selfish pieces of shit.
Quell surprise.
Quell surprise.
excelsiorlef
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Lots of people are irrationally terrified racists
In other news water is wet
In other news water is wet
The problem is quite simple and demonstrated by how you frame it: They're dumb.
We shouldn't have to explain to people that these bans won't make them safer, and that there are other things far more likely to kill them than any terrorist. We shouldn't have to explain to people that anthropogenic climate change is not bullshit. We shouldn't have to explain to people that vaccines don't contribute to autism. We shouldn't have to explain to people the Earth is over 4 billion years old.
Yet we're still there.
Atom Heart Mother
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i imagine those who are undecided don't really care since it doesn't affect them
UberTag
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You're right about one thing. It's been a fallacy around here of late to simply assume that the non-voters who didn't turn out in November are predominantly rational Democrats who simply have grown complacent about the political process... and that the Republicans always go out and vote.
Realistically, it's probably an even split. In fact, it may even skew more right than left given that the folks that aren't educated but at least are self-aware about it might feel they shouldn't influence a decision for others that they're not informed about.
Thank god.
I mean, its a poll that would almost certainly attract people interested in the topic, so in some ways it is definitely self-sampling (unless they randomly emailed 1000 people, which of course they didn't) but given that there's very little said of it and that it samples such a small number of people, its hard to say how actually viable this poll is or was.
It could vary by tens of percents on the hour you poll it with how vague its basis of selection is and no word on how its questions were even phrased.
I generally hate these types of statistical polls because they're incredibly flawed and generally vapid in terms of any real worth and far too easy to eschew one way or another.
rokkerkory
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Polls again? Great stuff that did for HRC
Astral Dog
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TestOfTide
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Something seems off about this poll. Not calling it biased, but does anyone have a link to the actual data from the survey?
Shit like this:
Makes think that it's not "49% of the population like Trump's Travel Ban" like the article and many people in this thread seem to suggest, but more like 31%.
Shit like this:
Makes think that it's not "49% of the population like Trump's Travel Ban" like the article and many people in this thread seem to suggest, but more like 31%.
killdatninja
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While most of my FB feed is against stuff like this, the few that do get called "Racist" or racist by association. Their response? "We're not racist, we just want to keep our family safe, keep the terrorists out". Yeah, it's pretty racist when you associate a whole group of people by their region as possible terrorists. I'm pretty sure that's what Xenophobia is... but people hate getting called racists, I guess the new definition of racism only applies when the word "hate" is used in conjunction with derogatory terms.
Rebel Leader
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It's an online poll
"The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English in all 50 states. It gathered poll responses from 1,201 people including 453 Democrats and 478 Republicans. It has a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 3 percentage points for the entire sample and 5 percentage points for the Democrats and the Republicans."
ehhh. dont see how these results are alarming. sounds like the polled republicans agree and that's not surprising.
ehhh. dont see how these results are alarming. sounds like the polled republicans agree and that's not surprising.
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