NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Agreed there, the amount of hate Switch gets is funny and interesting to read at times
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8 years ago, Nintendo unveiled the Switch concept. Does this console deserve all the honors and recognition it has received?
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Agreed there, the amount of hate Switch gets is funny and interesting to read at times
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Those OPTIONAL docks may be based on the Switch idea. Still, the handhelds, nothing to do with Switch, gladly.They all have docks and can be hooked up to a Monitor / TV and can be played with a controller. So.. your straight up fucking wrong.
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Need a drawing? Handheld PCs are not handheld consoles. Period. Otherwise they would suck with all the console limitations.
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ResilientBanana
Member
the nintendo switch dock is also optional. You don't need to use it, gladly, but they pack it in, gladly. So you're saying the switch is not a hybrid, gladly?
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
The original Switch has it obligatory on the pack. So not an option to not BUY it.
Impotaku
Member
It got so embarassing that the mods locked the thread so it could quietly sink away without anyone been able to bump it but it was basically.....You can see that wall of shame from the moon
ResilientBanana
Member
No, but I can buy more of them. But just because you're a hardcore Nintendo fanboy doesn't suddenly make the other hybrid systems, suddenly not hybrid.
Banjo64
cumsessed
So ASUS, Valve, ROG are all copying the PSP Go and other small consoles and not the Switch, which has sold 143m units in 7 years?
RodriGames40
Member
Conceptually fantastic system and a great idea going forward, but that underclocked TX1 wasn't ever gonna cut it. With this new, infinitely more powerful chip I might even make it my primary system.
ssringo
Member
Yes. In that everyone that loves it, loves it for good reason and my personal feelings on the system don't discount what their fans think/feel or how much they've opened their wallets.
My personal view is no. Simply because I want Nintendo to put a bit more power in their system so that massive compromises or straight up miracles aren't needed to have even a mediocre framerate. The huge success of the Switch (and for so long) probably means their next system will be more of the same.
My personal view is no. Simply because I want Nintendo to put a bit more power in their system so that massive compromises or straight up miracles aren't needed to have even a mediocre framerate. The huge success of the Switch (and for so long) probably means their next system will be more of the same.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Neither Asus or Valve build consoles, gladly.So ASUS, Valve, ROG are all copying the PSP Go and other small consoles and not the Switch, which has sold 143m units in 7 years?
So no.
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deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
You answered yourself, man
InterMusketeer
Member
For such an affordable device, it offers many great experiences. In that respect it's a huge success, and very much deserved.
But subjectively, the switching feature itself is not important to me. I found myself playing in handheld mode all the time, and eventually traded mine in for a Lite. It's also a very minimalist device with few extra features, so it ended up never really forming its own identity like the 3DS and Wii U did.
As for the games, although in hindsight one can say it's a large and varied library, the Switch had many periods of drought. The system relied heavily on re-releases, and many franchises still lie forgotten on a shelf. Feels like their output should've been increased with only a single platform.
But subjectively, the switching feature itself is not important to me. I found myself playing in handheld mode all the time, and eventually traded mine in for a Lite. It's also a very minimalist device with few extra features, so it ended up never really forming its own identity like the 3DS and Wii U did.
As for the games, although in hindsight one can say it's a large and varied library, the Switch had many periods of drought. The system relied heavily on re-releases, and many franchises still lie forgotten on a shelf. Feels like their output should've been increased with only a single platform.
Digital-Aftertaste
Member
...yep no, blow my ass out cuz I talked out of it apparently. The switch screen is just a tad larger than the win 4. Coulda sworn it was much larger than that
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Still don't get the point of what screen size has anything to do with all....yep no, blow my ass out cuz I talked out of it apparently. The switch screen is just a tad larger than the win 4. Coulda sworn it was much larger than that
Astral Dog
Member
Yes, i think its the best Nintendo system, in overall library not just exclusive
cool hybrid concept,plenty of exciting first party games,collaborations,third party support,strong sales
of course it also has many areas of improvement and i hope the Switch 2 is even better
cool hybrid concept,plenty of exciting first party games,collaborations,third party support,strong sales
of course it also has many areas of improvement and i hope the Switch 2 is even better
Digital-Aftertaste
Member
design similarities
It's a home console that you can use in handheld, so probably the console with the least personality ever to me. It's not a handheld that's carrying a tradition of genres with it, a certain way to play or anything. It's just basically you can run some console games on handheld.
Just like Steam Deck, it's of no use to me.
Beside that, i was not a fan of Nintendo's output during the generation.
Just like Steam Deck, it's of no use to me.
Beside that, i was not a fan of Nintendo's output during the generation.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
It was a very smart concept that clearly made a lot of sense to a lot of people.
That said, I can't ignore the shoddy performance that was there from the very start of the system's life - I realize that making it a portable gives you quite a few limitations, but it really felt like a disappointment as someone who's only interested in playing on a TV. While Nintendo's had some good games on there, I haven't particularly enjoyed their direction of making more and more games open world - they've in many ways lost sight of the more focused, polished experiences that they used to specialize in. Like, something as straightforward as Fire Emblem got bloated to fucking hell with Three Houses. Why? Why do they insist on this now? Hell, the few games that are narrower in scope, like Yoshi's Crafted World - something they should've knocked out of the park - looked like shit and ran at 30fps. There have been some games I've liked, but a lot more that I've either just been bored by or that I'm just waiting for a Switch 2 to play, because I don't want to put up with the performance.
And 3rd party? Man, don't even bother. I regretted it every time I bought something from Square-Enix or Atlus or whomever else, because it always got ported somewhere else down the road and was a massively upgraded experience.
So, it's definitely been one of the weaker Nintendo systems from my perspective both from a technical and creative standpoint. Some bright spots, but not too many.
That said, I can't ignore the shoddy performance that was there from the very start of the system's life - I realize that making it a portable gives you quite a few limitations, but it really felt like a disappointment as someone who's only interested in playing on a TV. While Nintendo's had some good games on there, I haven't particularly enjoyed their direction of making more and more games open world - they've in many ways lost sight of the more focused, polished experiences that they used to specialize in. Like, something as straightforward as Fire Emblem got bloated to fucking hell with Three Houses. Why? Why do they insist on this now? Hell, the few games that are narrower in scope, like Yoshi's Crafted World - something they should've knocked out of the park - looked like shit and ran at 30fps. There have been some games I've liked, but a lot more that I've either just been bored by or that I'm just waiting for a Switch 2 to play, because I don't want to put up with the performance.
And 3rd party? Man, don't even bother. I regretted it every time I bought something from Square-Enix or Atlus or whomever else, because it always got ported somewhere else down the road and was a massively upgraded experience.
So, it's definitely been one of the weaker Nintendo systems from my perspective both from a technical and creative standpoint. Some bright spots, but not too many.
Gambit2483
Member
Switch proved once again that Nintendo innovates and the Industry imitates. So yes.
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RickMasters
Member
It’s been a runaway success with a spectacular library of games. I don’t own a switch but it deserves all the praise it gets.
RickMasters
Member
I’d also say price and game library had a lot to do with it.and they knew their target audience outside of Nintendo die hards.
Trogdor1123
Member
Did it though? What did they actually revolutionize? Motion controls were fundamentally different (even that might be a stretch) and it brought in entirely different folks to gaming that had never played before. My mom, a grandma, owned for wiifit and bowling. Never played any other game in her life.
Not a criticism of the switch, I have one and it’s great. Just don’t us to over sell it.
Fbh
Member
I've enjoyed mine but I'm not as crazy about the library as other people, specially since I did own a WiiU and I think many of the best games are still WiiU titles (like Bayo2, MK8, Tropical Freeze, BOTW, etc).
I did however like the hybrid format and it also finally did what I've wanted Nintendo to do for a long time: Letting me just buy one console that gets all their games instead of needing to get 2 separate systems
I did however like the hybrid format and it also finally did what I've wanted Nintendo to do for a long time: Letting me just buy one console that gets all their games instead of needing to get 2 separate systems
Crayon
Member
Dunno let's ask all these market geniuses in here LOOOL
Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?
I always love to retrospectively read GAF's prediction threads and see how many crows are being served, the thread placing WiiU/XB first and Sony disappearing or failing with the PS4 before this gen started is so much fun! So now that we have enough details about the price, specs, launch line...www.neogaf.com
The switch announcement and the whole week after was perhaps the most insane time I've ever seen on here. Seriously blew ff13 on xbox out of the water. I've never seen doom posts flying so thick and fast.
finalflame
Banned
One and done, pack it up and abandon thread. The discussion has been had, and the answer is clear.
salva
Member
I was LTTP and only got the Switch about 3 years ago. I bought it purely for BOTW and my god was it amazing. I loved botw so much and the console. It isn't my main system but everything I play on it is top tier.
The ergonomics are shit when playing handheld with the stock joycons, but I play it 90% docked.
Can't wait for the switch 2
The ergonomics are shit when playing handheld with the stock joycons, but I play it 90% docked.
Can't wait for the switch 2
Shadowstar39
Member
Hell Yes!!!! My most played system. I just hope the switch 2 has both physical and digital backwards compatibility. Or I will have to buy a backup switch.
LordOcidax
Member
Mods should unlock that thread just for fun.It got so embarassing that the mods locked the thread so it could quietly sink away without anyone been able to bump it but it was basically.....
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Shadowstar39
Member
This!!! And they have rare games or one of games all get physical releases. It's crazy, I have a 1tb sd card full and still have games in my library i could download, plus over 40 cart based games on the shelf. Having physical means 3rd party games can get cheap. I just got a bunch for $20-30 while they were still $60 on the eshop.
Shadowstar39
Member
How are you doing that? I am on my wife's switch light and she doesn't have access to my library. Only thing I seen is if you put your main account on the others switch as primary, which honestly, I don't want to do , it means i would need her switch every time I want to buy a game. Hell no...lol.
Sales for 3rd party games yes but first party they are stingy! Shit I am still waiting to get bayonetta for under $30, its on psn/xbl and steam for $5 all the time. I didn't realize i bought bayo2 used on Amazon and it didn't come with the code. Grrr. They haven't once that I have seen dropped the price.
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ShadyAcshuns
Member
Basically it's my favorite console of all-time. I've always loved the handhelds since my first one, the Gameboy Color, and have always wanted a way to put it on the big screen, even way back then. Being a huge JRPG fan I just love having them in the palm of my hands or on my HTS with the ease of simplicity.
I'm often in the field so it feels like Switch was made for me. I love both PS5 and Series X for their graphical capabilities and smooth online, but given the chance I'll almost always choose Switch when I can.
I'm often in the field so it feels like Switch was made for me. I love both PS5 and Series X for their graphical capabilities and smooth online, but given the chance I'll almost always choose Switch when I can.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
i dont love it, but it was the right product at the right price.
decent library
wish, just one more time, nintendo would put out a powerful console to directly compete with ps/xbox
but seems like that train has sailed
decent library
wish, just one more time, nintendo would put out a powerful console to directly compete with ps/xbox
but seems like that train has sailed
Musashipan
Member
Best console ever with the best game ever
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Napkin for scale....yep no, blow my ass out cuz I talked out of it apparently. The switch screen is just a tad larger than the win 4. Coulda sworn it was much larger than that
Look at how fancy this dudes table is. Napkins in rings like he is some upper crust 1 percenter.
Kabelly
Member
You could barely take your gamepad in a different room with the Wii U. Having FULL console games and being able to seamlessly pull out the console into portable mode without hitches does deserve all the credit. My Switch hardly leaves it's dock anymore but having the option to pull it out with me and take it with me never gets old. Plus having all of Nintendo in one console is still the best decision they ever made.
Pasta la Vista
Member
Hardware wise, it's the 2nd worst console/handheld ever made by Nintendo that I've owned. First place goes to Wii U for obvious reasons.
EDIT: I've owned every console and handheld by Nintendo with the exceptions being the revisions to the NES and Wii.
EDIT2: Never owned a Virtua Boy either.
EDIT: I've owned every console and handheld by Nintendo with the exceptions being the revisions to the NES and Wii.
EDIT2: Never owned a Virtua Boy either.
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Trunx81
Member
Although the Switch didn’t have the wonder that the Wii provided (first time I searched for the sword button in Zelda I accidentally swung the remote and Link started to slash away - amazing moment!), it’s my favorite console of all time. Many, many hours were spend in handheld mode, while wife and kids were using the TV. Real console graphics on the go was a game changer for me. Yes, the ports had their flaws, but I still managed to beat Witcher 3 and its add-ons. Played Skyrim on the mountain over there. Rode a T-Rex with Mario’s mustache. Dwelled into the depths of Hades for hours. And fought the demon hordes, ripping and tearing.
Pic up and play - that’s the Switch for me. Its success is fully deserved.
Pic up and play - that’s the Switch for me. Its success is fully deserved.
Platinumstorm
Member
Have to say yes. I haven't been able to really use it much, but it's a great system with cool games. The biggest downside is that it should have had 4k support docked. The virtual console section is amazing.
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Pasta la Vista
Member
To add, I had to buy more controllers for this system than any other due to faulty sticks in both the joycons and pro controllers. To maintain actually playing games on my Switch (I own a launch model) I've had to pay over $200 just for controllers. I bought a 3rd party wired controller for like $15 with no rumble/haptic or motion control and that has served as my main controller for the past 2 years. The quality of their actual hardware is the lowest since N64.
Moonjt9
No Silksong? = Delivering the pain.
The reveal trailer was genius. The design of the system is genius. It’s no wonder it has sold a ton.
My only complaint is there is no system-wide achievements or trophies. If they could tie your Nintendo ID into the system better with switch 2, it would be the perfect console.
My only complaint is there is no system-wide achievements or trophies. If they could tie your Nintendo ID into the system better with switch 2, it would be the perfect console.
Paltheos
Member
For me personally, yes. Breath of the Wild alone made the whole purchase worth it. Such a fantastic experience.
Super Mario Wonder is a solid #2, probably about as solid as you can make a 2D Mario game (this is not a backhanded compliment; the game's great and wonderfully creative) but not revolutionary. Metroid Dread's a very good title - one that I've come to appreciate how carefully designed after playing on one-hit kill mode - but is hurt in a few areas (unintuitive pathing and weak music). Tears of the Kingdom does not have the same wow factor as Breath of the Wild but is still good - It's hurt by not fixing some of Breath of the Wild's biggest problems which had become very apparent after 100 hours on that game.
Exclusives are downhill from there. Mario Odyssey is tepid almost all the time, and Xenoblade 2 is just... a mess. It's tragic that Takahashi's games seem to get worse with each new series; why is the guy who produced Xenogears shoveling this slop? Gameplay loop for the series overall has just felt like a worse FF12 too, and that's always killed my interest.
Super Mario Wonder is a solid #2, probably about as solid as you can make a 2D Mario game (this is not a backhanded compliment; the game's great and wonderfully creative) but not revolutionary. Metroid Dread's a very good title - one that I've come to appreciate how carefully designed after playing on one-hit kill mode - but is hurt in a few areas (unintuitive pathing and weak music). Tears of the Kingdom does not have the same wow factor as Breath of the Wild but is still good - It's hurt by not fixing some of Breath of the Wild's biggest problems which had become very apparent after 100 hours on that game.
Exclusives are downhill from there. Mario Odyssey is tepid almost all the time, and Xenoblade 2 is just... a mess. It's tragic that Takahashi's games seem to get worse with each new series; why is the guy who produced Xenogears shoveling this slop? Gameplay loop for the series overall has just felt like a worse FF12 too, and that's always killed my interest.