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[Shangounchained]

Ok so i got an idea what if you can play most next gen games for less than half the price say 15-20$ for a 70$ game but the catch is youd have to watch ads as load screens or in game menus or checkpoints!

Im saying this because games are too expensive now dont know much about europe but growing up in africa everybody loved the ps2 because it could easily be moded and play pirated discs and this is really what pushed the sales of the ps2 and pcs, not going to lie gamepass is a hero going forward aswell fact of the matter expensive entertainment doesnt sell.

 

[Orta]

Not a chance in hell do I want fucking ads in my games.

 

[sn0man]

No

 

[Z O N E]

HELL NO.

 

[nowhat]

Short answer: no.

Long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[DrNeroCF]

Watching a thousand ads is worth 20 cents to $10 if the stars absolutely align (depending on the country you're in and if companies are running big ad campaigns), so no there's no way that's ever going to happen.

Google also has a stranglehold on the ad market, and they don't have a way to monetize games that aren't on mobile. It's against Adsense policy to run ads on a site before even an html5 game, and admob can only be run on mobile games.

The problem with charging for a game AND running ads is that charging absolutely anything creates a huge barrier to entry, and you need 100's of millions of impressions for the ad model to make any sense.

Though, even at the height of the Flash game popularity, I never made that much from ads.

If running ads was viable, I'd imagine most free to play games would be running them on PC and consoles, and we'd see less gross MTX games ruining their gameplay to hook whales.

 

[Shangounchained]

Not a chance in hell do I want fucking ads in my games.

U only get them if u paid less than half the price say 15$ for a 70$ game

 

[DeepEnigma]

U only get them if u paid less than half the price say 15$ for a 70$ game

Nope, cause it never ends with just this. Slippery slopes are very real with gaming.

 

[Birdo]

I'd be done with gaming forever if that happened.

 

[Shangounchained]

Watching a thousand ads is worth 20 cents to $10 if the stars absolutely align (depending on the country you're in and if companies are running big ad campaigns), so no there's no way that's ever going to happen.

Google also has a stranglehold on the ad market, and they don't have a way to monetize games that aren't on mobile. It's against Adsense policy to run ads on a site before even an html5 game, and admob can only be run on mobile games.

The problem with charging for a game AND running ads is that charging absolutely anything creates a huge barrier to entry, and you need 100's of millions of impressions for the ad model to make any sense.

Though, even at the height of the Flash game popularity, I never made that much from ads.

If running ads was viable, I'd imagine most free to play games would be running them on PC and consoles, and we'd see less gross MTX games ruining their gameplay to hook whales.

You already wait minutes in load screens today so paying 15$ for a next gen uncharted 5 or gta 6 that costs 70-100$ for the low price of watching ads is nothing

 

[Shangounchained]

Nope, cause it never ends with just this. Slippery slopes are very real with gaming.

Nope no ads if u pay full price, nextgen consoles wont have loadscreens but ur used to them current gen and last gen u could wait minutes for a game to load so having ads on a 15$ gta6 for a loadscreen isnt an issue

 

[ManaByte]

Not a chance in hell do I want fucking ads in my games.

Did you play Death Stranding?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nope no ads if u pay full price, nextgen consoles wont have loadscreens but ur used to them current gen and last gen u could wait minutes for a game to load so having ads on a 15$ gta6 for a loadscreen isnt an issue

 

[nowhat]

U only get them if u paid less than half the price say 15$ for a 70$ game

So... wait half a year, or a year tops, check out the sales? Unless you're dead set on getting an AAA game at launch, they do come down in price quite quickly, even on consoles. Hell, many of the current gen hard hitters of Sony's first-party are a part of the "Playstation Hits"-collection, meaning they'll be 20€ tops. If that's something you can't afford, I'm not sure ads would change anything.

 

[Keihart]

Stadia was probably a way to run ads targeting people and extracting new metadata previously not available through normal browsing in the future...but since that seems to be directly going to crash and burn, idk, hopefully ads don't touch games any more...product placement is alright though.
Give me those monster energy drinks and Sony Walkmans.

Also, ads on mobile suck ass, it's not even a worthy endeavor for developers unless the ads are pretty in your face and constant.

Edit: also, Free is always the best price, you can beat Free with cheap. Even a dollar is too much compared to Free. I don't see how cheap games would make people that don't want to pay to pay cheap.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Get the fuck outta here. Fuck no do I want ads in my life, let alone in my games

 

[Shangounchained]

So... wait half a year, or a year tops, check out the sales? Unless you're dead set on getting an AAA game at launch, they do come down in price quite quickly, even on consoles. Hell, many of the current gen hard hitters of Sony's first-party are a part of the "Playstation Hits"-collection, meaning they'll be 20€ tops. If that's something you can't afford, I'm not sure ads would change anything.

Why wait a year when u can pay 15$ for a triple a game at launch and only watch ads on loadscreens, weve been looking at empty loadscreens for decades it doesnt cost an arm and a leg.

 

[Shangounchained]

Id rather watch ads for loadscreens at 15$ triple a games other than pay 70$ for a game its optional anyway nobody is forcing anybody! Weve watched empty 2 minute loadscreens for decades why not 5 second ads like in youtube for loadscreens

 

[Virex]

This is the dumbest idea I've heard in a really long long time. And being from Africa myself, games aren't too expensive here either. Don't know about the regions that aren't officially supported by Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Steam etc. But games are not too expensive where I live. And seriously this is a really really dumb idea. It actually borders on retarded.

 

[Keihart]

Why wait a year when u can pay 15$ for a triple a game at launch and only watch ads on loadscreens, weve been looking at empty loadscreens for decades it doesnt cost an arm and a leg.

10 second ads on a load screen are clearly not enough if mobile and flash games are any metric.
If a game can attract such a huge player base dedicated to play enough time, microtransactions are way more profitable.

 

[nowhat]

Get the fuck outta here. Fuck no do I want ads in my life, let alone in my games

I bought my daughter a laptop (a very cheap one - she basically only needs a browser for school stuff, which makes me sad, kids these days couldn't program their way out of a paper bag - but I digress) for an xmas present, and I set it up beforehand. I haven't touched consumer Windows 10 in like... well, ever. I had heard the horror stories though.

I was still appalled by what I saw. Like, instead of giving me an option for "more targeted ads" or "more generic ads", where's the checkbox for "I don't want my OS to serve me ads, thankyouverymuch". System updates bringing shit like Candy Crush to the start menu. Generally I felt more like a consumer than an user of an OS.

Several Powershell commands and clicks later it was tolerable. But the whole experience was appalling still. I don't understand why people put up with that.

 

[Virex]

Did you play Death Stranding?

It's called to options button and choose skip.

 

[SLB1904]

Nice try phill jim bowser

 

[Musky_Cheese]

 

[TLZ]

Only if you make them free.

 

[CatLady]

Oh Hell no!!!

I get 1st party day and date and 300+ indie to AAA games for $14.99 total per month. No need for ads. Plus I'm really looking forward to no loading screen. The BC 360 and OG games on the X without load screens are awesome, can't wait until it's like that for every game.

 

[DeepEnigma]

We need less Black Mirror in this world, not more.

Regardless of "an option".

 

[Spaceman292]

Ok so i got an idea what if you can play most next gen games for less than half the price say 15-20$ for a 70$ game but the catch is youd have to watch ads as load screens or in game menus or checkpoints!

Im saying this because games are too expensive now dont know much about europe but growing up in africa everybody loved the ps2 because it could easily be moded and play pirated discs and this is really what pushed the sales of the ps2 and pcs, not going to lie gamepass is a hero going forward aswell fact of the matter expensive entertainment doesnt sell.

That's the worst idea I've ever heard. Please refrain from having ideas in the future. Let other people do that. Thank you.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

No disrespect, but this idea was attempted early in the PS3/X360 generation after in-game ads failed to lure sponsors in any meaningful way. The problem? Players hated it, marketers found it ineffective, and the cost outpaced the demand.

Ads will make their way into everything, eventually. Such is the way of things in the digital age.

 

[SLB1904]

Only if you make them free.

Not even for free. We already have mobile games with intrusive ads. And you are bound to get your information shared accross the board.
God fuck no.

 

[DESTROYA]

Are you insane OP?

So... wait half a year, or a year tops, check out the sales? Unless you're dead set on getting an AAA game at launch, they do come down in price quite quickly, even on consoles. Hell, many of the current gen hard hitters of Sony's first-party are a part of the "Playstation Hits"-collection, meaning they'll be 20€ tops. If that's something you can't afford, I'm not sure ads would change anything.

This, if you can't afford games just wait until they are on sale, hell most of the games I get are half price because I just do that.

Id rather watch ads for loadscreens at 15$ triple a games other than pay 70$ for a game its optional anyway nobody is forcing anybody! Weve watched empty 2 minute loadscreens for decades why not 5 second ads like in youtube for loadscreens

Ads suck, they wouldn't be 5 second ads either more like minutes long to offset your proposed savings.
I got to say this is one of the worst ideas I've heard in a long time.

 

[TLZ]

Not even for free. We already have mobile games with intrusive ads. And you are bound to get your information shared accross the board.
God fuck no.

Psst, you can change the DNS and the ads are gone

 

[FranXico]

 

[Spukc]

OP should be fucking banned for making this thread.

The amount of suck is astronomical.

 

[Grand Theft Scratchy]

I would rather see something unique to the game like the Raven Sword PMC ad from MGS4.

 

[Kdad]

There are so many BAD threads today...can I pay NEOGAF money to replace them with ADS instead?

 

[iNvid02]

A game will eventually drop in price, whilst your games will remain being ad-infested pieces of shit for eternity

no thanks

 

[The Pleasure]

Fight night 3 did this. Brought to you by burger king!

 

[BadBurger]

Oh god no.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Ok so i got an idea what if you can play most next gen games for less than half the price say 15-20$ for a 70$ game but the catch is youd have to watch ads as load screens or in game menus or checkpoints!

Im saying this because games are too expensive now dont know much about europe but growing up in africa everybody loved the ps2 because it could easily be moded and play pirated discs and this is really what pushed the sales of the ps2 and pcs, not going to lie gamepass is a hero going forward aswell fact of the matter expensive entertainment doesnt sell.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

You are dreaming.

1 - Games already have ads, Wipeout made its loading screens stay longer to give you more time to see them (on pa3, I think they patched it out), there is also tons of product placement... So that would not xur on loading time.

2 - if they can get more revenue streams they will add them, not switch one for the other.

 

[Shantae]

I hate ads enough as it is, so I'm gonna say

 

[SLB1904]

Psst, you can change the DNS and the ads are gone

They will put that shit straight on the disc

 

[Shangounchained]

Thid is the best idea for cheaper games ever everybody like this idea but like porn everybody denies it

 

[Virex]

Thid is the best idea for cheaper games ever everybody like this idea but like porn everybody denies it

You are talking out of your ass mate. You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[DESTROYA]

Thid is the best idea for cheaper games ever everybody like this idea but like porn everybody denies it

Are you drunk OP? Either that or you work for a AD agency.

 

[nowhat]

Thid is the best idea for cheaper games ever everybody like this idea but like porn everybody denies it

So... pretty much everyone on this thread thus far (and I doubt if you'd run a poll elsewhere the results would be different) is in the "hell no"-camp. Yet you maintain everyone is onboard, but can't admit it because of... porn?

Have you considered a career in politics? You seem to have a knack for making wildly inaccurate statements, but standing behind them because of very dubious reasons, I think you're a natural.

 

[Strife In a Teacup]

 

[DrNeroCF]

You already wait minutes in load screens today so paying 15$ for a next gen uncharted 5 or gta 6 that costs 70-100$ for the low price of watching ads is nothing

Not really sure what you're replying to. A developer would make maybe 2 bucks extra for putting ads in the game, they're not going to discount you 65-95 bucks for a 2 dollar return at most. And that's only in a country with good ad rates. Then they would have to deal with the bad reviews and PR that would come from that.

I'm not complaining that I don't want ads in my games, I'm saying it makes absolutely no financial sense for publishers.

The only version of this that does make sense is putting ads for newer games in a series in older games, which I've seen a few times. That's about as targeted of advertising as it gets. And if you're still playing the older game, you've probably already gotten your money's worth out of it, so you're not going to get a discount at that point. Offering a customer loyalty discount would be interesting, though.