Ads in exchange for no load times and cheaper games in next gen consoles?

Shangounchained said:
Get an understanding i didnt say ads in every game i said ads if u bought a game for cheap say 15$ for a 70$ game but if u bought fully at 70$ then u wont have ads, watching a 5 second ad for a loadscreen isnt stupid as waiting for a game to be discounted after 6 months.
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You're playing with fire.
A 5 second ad can't make up for a 55$ loss at retail. You need MANY 5-seconds ads, or (more realistically) a LOT of 1-minute ads.
As I said, these people know no bounds, you're assuming good faith but that does not exist in marketing. And it would be a bad idea even then. Imagine how bad it is in the real world.
 
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Shangounchained said:
Get an understanding i didnt say ads in every game i said ads if u bought a game for cheap say 15$ for a 70$ game but if u bought fully at 70$ then u wont have ads, watching a 5 second ad for a loadscreen isnt stupid as waiting for a game to be discounted after 6 months.
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Still fuck, no.

Also, you know they will never keep it that way. Because if the ad idea is a success they will make it the default and increase the price of non-ad games at 80$ or 90$ or even more for the "premium experience with no ads!!!".
 
nkarafo said:
Still fuck, no.

Also, you know they will never keep it that way. Because if the ad idea is a success they will make it the default and increase the price of non-ad games at 80$ or 90$ or even more for the "premium experience with no ads!!!".
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Thats fucked up not what i meant.
 
Shangounchained said:
Thats fucked up not what i meant.
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Just saying. It's how video game publisher greed works. You mean well and you think your idea is beneficial for people who don't have money to buy videogames but publishers NEVER care about benefiting the customers, they will push it and twist it as much as they can to squeeze as much benefit for themselves as they possibly can. If ads become accepted this way it's going to be a shit show for everyone (except the publishers ofc).
 
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nkarafo said:
Just saying. It's how video game publisher greed works. You mean well and you think your idea is beneficial for people who don't have money to buy videogames but publishers NEVER care about benefiting the customers, they will push it and twist it as much as they can to squeeze as much benefit for them as they possibly can. If ads become accepted this way it's going to be a shit show for everyone (except the publishers ofc).
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They arent that stupid. They know very well the idea of ads will bring shares down already so theyll know their boundaries
 
Lol. Yes, because it works so well on mobile gaming where it's quite prevalent, all those amazing AAA quality games you can get for peanuts thanks to them ads, right? You know no publisher would do this, lol. Maybe making their old games adware at best but they'd rather sell the new stuff.
 
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Shangounchained said:
They arent that stupid. They know very well the idea of ads will bring shares down already so theyll know their boundaries
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They are that stupid. I think it's been clear now for many years that shareholders have no understanding of what gamers want, if they did, the industry wouldnt be the mess it is right now. And sorry, i meant what gamers that actually think how certain practices might hurt gaming, you are not one of those, sorry.

About your idea, it's dumb, we already have something for people that want to pay less for games, it's called getting them on sales or waiting a few months for a price drop. No need to add more BS on top of all other BS we already have. In the long term, it wouldnt benefit anyone besides publishers, and gaming would become more like mobile gaming, wich is a plague that already hurt pc/console gaming too much.
 
Shangounchained said:
I did make a rational argument the thread is my opinion n its people like u who dont understand what an opinion is, im not trying to bend u over n plug my ideology into ur bum hole im simply making an opinion whether u like it or not is not anybodies business.
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what? so you only want praise and agreement?
Your opinion is not up for scrutiny because is an opinion?
Isn't this a discussion board?
You've been given lots of opinions about it already, but you keep claiming to know better and that this idea is what people want....well, people is telling you that it isn't so.

"I think i'm right and you are not" is no argument.
 
Shangounchained said:
Im a man n i stand with my idea whether u hate it or love it n it didnt backfire ur just forcing it to.... So move along.
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Nope!
It backfired big time, your delusional OP and in total denial that nobody agrees with this obviously brain dead idea.
Show me one post that agrees with you?
 
I make every effort to minimize/eliminate marketing from all my entertainment experiences. Some stuff is subtle placement in-game (or film) and there's nothing you can do about that. But I would NEVER...EVER willingly opt in for more, lol. Why anyone would want that, I do not understand.
 
Given inflation and the number of sales there are I would argue the opposite, that games are cheaper than they have ever been.

I remember buying games in the early to mid nineties for 59.99 to 79.99 which is exactly what I am paying now.
 
Some ads can be amazing, and it's looking like OP's thread is going in that direction anyway. Ads designed in load screens will stink.
 
If ads ever became ingrained in consoles that would only solidify my PC gaming and drop consoles totally. Exclusives would not even be enough to get me onboard.

I hate ads period.
 
No.

Why? Because it may sound like a good idea right now but it won't take long before it gets abused to hell and back. Like dlc sounded like a great idea at first and now we have dlc and season passes announced before the game is even out, and it's becoming common to talk about dlc when a game is fucking announced. Microtransactions at first were a good idea to supplement free games cost, now we have them invading games that cost 60 dollars and games where you buy it and pay a monthly fee. And so on.

I just pray some corporate asshole doesnt see this thread and makes it a reality.
 
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OP, just save your money like a regular person or wait for the game to go on sale. We don't need nor want traditional games to be more like mobile gaming even if you keep arguing it's optional, the fact is, no one likes it.
 
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Rhaknam said:
OP, just save your money like a regular person or wait for the game to go on sale. We don't need nor want traditional games to be more like mobile gaming even if you keep arguing it's optional, the fact is, no one likes it.
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Well..."no one" it's kinda unfair, there is at least one person who likes it...The OP.
 
Shangounchained said:
Its mob psychology they dont hate it they just follow the mob and hate it, its like that girl in high school who tells everyone how she hates u only to find out she cant sleep without seeing u.
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This is deflecting. You're making up a narrative because the thread is overwhelmingly against this particular idea.


Shangounchained said:
Get an understanding i didnt say ads in every game i said ads if u bought a game for cheap say 15$ for a 70$ game but if u bought fully at 70$ then u wont have ads, watching a 5 second ad for a loadscreen isnt stupid as waiting for a game to be discounted after 6 months.
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Plenty of people wait for GOTY editions or rereleases with the rest of the content. Those same people might wait for a sale instead of paying to watch ads. That said options are good. I think you're not estimating the value of ads correctly. I think it might be more like take 20 minutes of surveys and provide all of your electronic devices usage data to get some of a discount

Shangounchained said:
Ur the first creature ive ever heard who pays a youtube premium to avoid ads goodluck
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Again; this shows a lack of perspective. Okay great, now in the future when someone else mentions they don't want to see ads and pays to opt out you won't have this excuse.

you cite Facebook and YouTube as examples of how this is successful. The difference is that those two places rely almost solely on the audience supplying the content. Facebook especially just hosts a forum and slices up attention to pay for hosting costs for html and some video/sound/images.

imagine trying to pay content creators enough to get that done for a game on the scale of GTA6. Won't happen at your particular ratio. Maybe $60 for watching 5min of ads every 15min of gameplay versus $70 for not.
 
I would be ok if real brands were used instead of fake brands in games but outside of that.....no ads ever.


I would also not mind if sports games had real ads during the have time show and such.
 
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Shangounchained said:
Ok so i got an idea what if you can play most next gen games for less than half the price say 15-20$ for a 70$ game but the catch is youd have to watch ads as load screens or in game menus or checkpoints!

Im saying this because games are too expensive now dont know much about europe but growing up in africa everybody loved the ps2 because it could easily be moded and play pirated discs and this is really what pushed the sales of the ps2 and pcs, not going to lie gamepass is a hero going forward aswell fact of the matter expensive entertainment doesnt sell.
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No
 
bruh, I pay so I never get ads, I have adblock and ublock. I despise ads with a passion. I will never accept them in my videogames even if they made all the games free. I will quit gaming.
 
I don't watch TV so I guess I am out of the loop but today I went out to eat and the restaurant had football on the TV. For the first time I saw split screen ads, that's right...ads that play WHILE the content is still on (the ad had a bigger window than the football game). Marketers will put ads anywhere if you let them, don't let them.
 
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Shangounchained said:
They arent that stupid. They know very well the idea of ads will bring shares down already so theyll know their boundaries
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Know that Publishers have been this stupid. Educate yourself. We're on the internet for fuck sake.
Look at Bethesda for one of the more recent examples of conjoined stupidity and greed.
 
I don't understand why this thread still going? I think 99% of us can agree this is very, very stupid idea, what else to discuss?
 
I'm pretty okay if the ad placement in the form of in-game item like nissin cup noodle in ff xv or joint & items like in yakuza games, but interstitial, banner and other, hell no
 
Controversial opinion incoming I guess. I don't entirely hate this idea, it could be a cheap option for those that want to save money and get games at launch and I don't think mainstream audience will care that much, they don't seem to care about micro transactions so I think this would be a minor inconvenience to them especially if they get games at a cheaper price point.

Gamers like the ones on forums like this would be pissed, which is understandable since you don't want slippery slopes were it could leak into other areas, but if devs were to abide by the idea of an easy entry purchase and premium purchase model I wouldn't dislike it.

However, like others, I do not entirely trust devs to follow through in that way, escpecially 2k considering they already have ads. The idea itself in my opinion is good but we can't trust devs to not take it overboard and implement into full priced games as well.
 
10000 said:
I'm pretty okay if the ad placement in the form of in-game item like nissin cup noodle in ff xv or joint & items like in yakuza games, but interstitial, banner and other, hell no
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Until you get Coca Cola in your medieval RPG? How about Mercedes cars in your kart racer? Oh wait....
 
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Zog said:
Until you get Coca Cola in your medieval RPG? How about Mercedes cars in your kart racer? Oh wait....
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well they could be creative and named it coca leaves concotion

galaxy s10 on the witcher 3 would be super dope too
 
10000 said:
well they could be creative and named it coca leaves concotion

galaxy s10 on the witcher 3 would be super dope too
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That wouldn't be proper product placement. They want that Coca Cola branding to be in your face.
 
Zog said:
Until you get Coca Cola in your medieval RPG? How about Mercedes cars in your kart racer? Oh wait....
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I mean to be fair, I don't think anybody was mad that Mercedes cars were in Mario Kart 8 rather we all thought it was funny (and still do). Admittedly they still seem a little out of place but they're fun to use.
 
no fucking way, we all got phones, just go on your phone if u need to load. keep those ads out of my games. I want to be immersed ffs
 
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