This was the case in the PS3 era, but not on PS4 and PS5 when similar GPU was able to match console results. Only the most recent PS4 ports (Uncharted 4, God Of War, RDR2, Horizon, Detroit Become Human) required much faster GPUs on PC, but I guess developers stopped optimizing their ports at that point because modern GPUs were so fast compared to the PS4 that they could brute force everything.
It's also dumb to tell people to get a PRO when they don't want a PRO, but I see it all over the place.
Uhm are people doing that?
Source is Alex from DF, hard to believe they would blatantly lie like this.
Yeah.. wouldn't count on that.
Fake 8k then.
Opposite to most people in here that hate DF I actually trust them, but is this based on rumours or he had acces to raw footage? I find hard to believe that the game is running at so low resolution on Ps5 pro, or regular Ps5 for that matter.
The persecution complex is strong with this one
They have access to a 60+GB version of the video, used as source for their analysis.
Not that hard to believe. The game is very demanding and not just for its RT use. I find ridiculous how much it is demanding in spite of how awful it could look at times even maxed out:
Yep, and it's strange because there are lots of PlayStation guys among them. It continues the trend of the hateboner many have for this console (or mid-gen refreshes in general). There's so much negativity surrounding this console.
Nah, not true. A lot of PS fans hate it too and hated it since it was rumored. "We don't need a Pro!" "Sony isn't even releasing games, why release a Pro?" "What a useless console." and so on.
lead up to ps5 was like this too i remember, ''insiders'' like dusk gole mspreading fake news about re village performance, then the rumours of delayed ps5 production due to overheating and loads of other bs all around for xbox too
Are you part of the Positivity around this console?
You're right, it really does remind me of that period.
Paying $700 to run games at 840p and some at 30fps
U need to stop treat pc players as one entity, most of them(actually 90% according to steamsurvey) have weaker gpu than ps5pr0 and we talking in raster, if we include rt and upscaling its even bigger difference coz all amd cards dont count anymore for obvious reason.
Lol, I think it's more because, for a few years, many haven't liked the direction PlayStation has been taking. The PC ports, the focus on GAAS, and the supposed lack of first-party exclusives. The introduction of a Pro console when some feel cheated by the regular one isn't being taken well. Seen fans literally wish for Sony to fail so they can be taught a lesson and go back to the old ways of single-player games, no GAAS, and no PC ports.
Yes. The one thing I hated (and still do hate) was the price. Otherwise, I was quite optimistic about it.
Hard to argue about some of those points.
He's been fairly neutral and objective in my experience, which is the most sensibile stand imo at this point. Positive mostly even at times.
How is 45% pathetic? How exactly would this work if the PS5 base nvidia equivalent is considered to be a 2070 and a PS5 Pro near 4070?
It's only 45% GPU increase, no change to the CPU. so 30fps games will still be CPU limited and will remain at 30fps.
On snap, did you tell Mark Cerny your profound insight? Maybe if you get hold of him, they can still change the console. Oh no, what will playstation do...
Yeah yeah, I know, was joking.. mostly.
I agree. We posted at the same time. lol
Wait and see because Dragon's Dogma 2 is running at 60 on the Pro.
I'm not in any "camp". Those are tools of entertainment. I call things as I see them. I like consoles and always have. Not interested whatsoever in platforming warring and find it idiotic.
Don't think it's fair to blame DF. That's what their internal analyses reveal and fanboys are now running with it to shit on the console. If they saw 840p, they saw 840p, not much else they can do. As
Mr.Phoenix
mentioned, however, this just sounds like Remedy swapped FSR with PSSR. If that's the case, it means there's quite a bit of headroom for higher resolution or better graphics. The base console did well enough keeping 60fps if I remember. I expect them to either increase the resolution or add ray-traced shadows which are desperately needed on consoles in that game. The patch isn't out to the public, so attempting to dance on the Pro's grave seems premature.There are like five 30fps-only games and even fewer that are CPU-bound because of real hardware limitations. I also like how the better ray tracing performance is glossed over. The 45% is misleading because of PSSR. If 1440 --> 4K ends up looking relatively similar to DLSS, then you're getting twice the quality for similar performance (which lines up with Cerny saying people won't have to choose between quality and performance). That 45% figure is ultimately meaningless because what matters is the final result. If you get to play games at the same image quality but at double the frame rate, you've effectively increased the GPU power by 100%. If that's the case, then who cares about 45%? Ask anyone on PC, virtually everyone uses DLSS.
The CPU is clocked higher, you can turn a lot of 30fps games into 60fps. Most games have 60fps anyway with lowered settings. Going from 30CUs in base PS5 to 60CUs in PS5 Pro will take them to higher settings and resolution at 60fps. This is the equivalent of going from a 2070 or more precisely an AMD 6700 to a 4070. Trying to downplay this by saying its a meager bump is just not genuine.
They pixel counted the ProRes footage Sony sent them.
PS5 Ultra
Nah, sorry it doesn't seem like that to me my friend.
