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[Buggy Loop]

Shit, you found one. I have to say I am shocked the 9070 xt can do that at 1440p Balanced. There is still room there for more fps before frame gen. I just may get a 5th playthrough in pure RT mode this go-round.

Good catch.

See? The leaked bench were nothing to be afraid of and this confirms it.

I can't believe most of them ignored it. I really hate techtubers in general sometimes.

This is playable. Optimization outside overdrive setting to improve further and frame gen and I think plenty of peoples will try it. I absolutely suggest a playthrough of it with overdrive. It's a generational leap in graphics.

I'm gonna check tonight where my 3080 Ti is placed in all this because its been ages I started the game but I'm pretty sure this surpasses my card.

For $599 this is probably the cheapest entry to Cyberpunk 2077 overdrive. Maybe even the lowest cost per fps in overdrive out there.

Haven't had time to find a 7900XTX comparison but I'm pretty sure its a huge leap on AMD side.

 

[iQuasarLV]

See? The leaked bench were nothing to be afraid of and this confirms it.

I can't believe most of them ignored it. I really hate techtubers in general sometimes.

This is playable. Optimization outside overdrive setting to improve further and frame gen and I think plenty of peoples will try it. I absolutely suggest a playthrough of it with overdrive. It's a generational leap in graphics.

I'm gonna check tonight where my 3080 Ti is placed in all this because its been ages I started the game but I'm pretty sure this surpasses my card.

For $599 this is probably the cheapest entry to Cyberpunk 2077 overdrive. Maybe even the lowest cost per fps in overdrive out there.

Haven't had time to find a 7900XTX comparison but I'm pretty sure its a huge leap on AMD side.

I LOL, only beccause of that gif man. I laughed at work and people heard. Yea, RT above medium has been out of my range since launch. Glad to see an affordable card finally get through the gate.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Have not stayed informed on this release, are people expecting the same price hike/availability issues as the 50x cards? The intel battlemage cards are still widely unavailable for purcahse as well.

I need to back fill some office pc's with video cards, 50xx are out of the question due to scarcity, looking at these as an option but don't see why availability will be any different.

 

[TheRedRiders]

The Digital Foundry review is here

 

[Bry0]

I run triple 4K and my 7900xtx draws like 105w idle on the desktop doing absolutely nothing. Smh

 

[TheRedRiders]

The Digital Foundry review is here

So the 9070 XT falls behind the 5070 Ti whilst also consuming more than 80 watts - yikes. I guess AMD won't be riding on their efficiency bandwagon anytime soon.

 

[Buggy Loop]

So the 9070 XT falls behind the 5070 Ti whilst also consuming more than 80 watts - yikes. I guess AMD won't be riding on their efficiency bandwagon anytime soon.

To me if Nvidia is leaving performances on the table to be "efficient" its not a win either. Like Steve from Gamernexus says, AMD found a nice balance here I think. If 5070 Ti could have been more performant than efficient I think everyone agrees they should have went with performances because right now its quite pathetic gen-to-gen especially at those prices.

I don't think anyone looks at efficiency if they come to store and (if) they find a 5070 Ti at $900 they're gonna skip on $600 9070XT, but imho.

Now its a matter of AMD having a lot of stock and a lot of cards at MSRP (don't fuck it up AIBs, don't fuck it up).

This is mainly what matters

We know 5070 Ti and 5070 MSRP is a joke and a fictional one pretty much. So AMD just has flood market with MSRP cards and they should find their way into Steam hardware charts soon enough. I really hope they have AIBs under leash.

 

[Wolzard]

The Digital Foundry review is here

Avg Perf Differential	3840x2160	2560x1440	1920x1080
RTX 5070 Ti	105.33%	102.93%	101.83%
RX 9070 XT	100.00%	100.00%	100.00%
RX 7900 XTX	99.70%	97.07%	93.04%
RTX 3090 Ti	93.95%	90.31%	88.72%
RTX 4070 Ti Super	93.34%	93.07%	93.17%
RX 9070	89.54%	90.14%	91.18%
RX 7900 XT	86.03%	86.86%	87.31%
RTX 4070 Ti	85.89%	86.93%	88.79%
RTX 3090	83.54%	81.39%	81.37%
RTX 3080 Ti	82.96%	81.10%	80.65%
RTX 5070	81.17%	82.92%	84.20%
RTX 3080	80.13%	77.14%	75.50%
RTX 4070 Super	77.56%	79.72%	81.87%

 

[SolidQ]

OC UK

 

[riko]

This surprises me given the relatively low memory bandwidth AMD published for the 9070XT (640GB/s)

 

[CrustyBritches]

I really hope people will be able to actually buy these. There should be systems in place to stop bots and scalpers from buying cards instead of the actual end user.

Not to sound fatalistic, but mid-high-end PC gaming is currently on life support. The 5070 launch today was fucking travesty. People are sick of Nvidia’s shit. Now is the time for AMD to rise like a phoenix from the ashes.

 

[riko]

This surprises me given the relatively low memory bandwidth AMD published for the 9070XT (640GB/s)

Even more confused because there is no ROCm support yet, so are these AMD own numbers?

There Will Not Be Official ROCm Support For The Radeon RX 9070 Series On Launch Day - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

I'd love to be pleasantly surprised, but I would be surprised at pure token generation (as displayed) it would out perform the 800 and 900GB/s cards listed.

 

[salva]

Sold.
Probably not ASAP but a 9070 XT will be my PC component purchase this year. My 3070ti is still managing ok for most things, but it'll be a good upgrade going to the 9070 XT and god it'll feel glorious uninstalling the NVIDIA drivers and control panel etc.

 

[SolidQ]

Even more confused because there is no ROCm support yet, so are these AMD own numbers?

AMD show it's work on 9070, just need time.

 

[YCoCg]

Avg Perf Differential	3840x2160	2560x1440	1920x1080
RTX 5070 Ti	105.33%	102.93%	101.83%
RX 9070 XT	100.00%	100.00%	100.00%
RX 7900 XTX	99.70%	97.07%	93.04%
RTX 3090 Ti	93.95%	90.31%	88.72%
RTX 4070 Ti Super	93.34%	93.07%	93.17%
RX 9070	89.54%	90.14%	91.18%
RX 7900 XT	86.03%	86.86%	87.31%
RTX 4070 Ti	85.89%	86.93%	88.79%
RTX 3090	83.54%	81.39%	81.37%
RTX 3080 Ti	82.96%	81.10%	80.65%
RTX 5070	81.17%	82.92%	84.20%
RTX 3080	80.13%	77.14%	75.50%
RTX 4070 Super	77.56%	79.72%	81.87%

The God damn base 5070 being that low is such a let down, such a trash card.

 

[delishcaek]

Just found out about the prices here in Germany and damn they surprised me. 689€ for the XT, 629€ for the 9070. I was expecting 799€, because the PS5 Pro is also 799€.

You can build a banger upper mid-range rig for 100-200€ more than a PS5 Pro (with disc drive) if you can grab an MSRP model. Hope there's enough stock and I hope that people buy this card over 5070s so NVidia has to change something with their pricing.

 

[Gaiff]

The God damn base 5070 being that low is such a let down, such a trash card.

It's a fake 5070, just like the 4070. The real 4070 was always the 4070S NVIDIA deliberately withheld. There is a 5070 Super somewhere that's around 15% faster than the regular 5070.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

There is a 5070 Super somewhere that's around 15% faster than the regular 5070.

Unless they respin to N4P/N3E that much seems unlikely. But you will get 50% more VRAM.

 

[zeroluck]

RDNA 4 is really good. But AMD is still dragging their feet at adding dedicated ray tracing and ML hardware, if they want to catch up to Nvidia at path tracing they will eventually need to do it. It is fine tho if all they want to make is midrange GPUs for the next 4 years.

 

[SolidQ]

It is fine tho if all they want to make is midrange GPUs for the next 4 years.

RDNA5 have 1k$ sku

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I am hoping I can get one that fits my Fractal Ridge PC. I can't wait.

 

[Buggy Loop]

RDNA 4 is really good. But AMD is still dragging their feet at adding dedicated ray tracing and ML hardware, if they want to catch up to Nvidia at path tracing they will eventually need to do it. It is fine tho if all they want to make is midrange GPUs for the next 4 years.

??

They did add dedicated RT & ML

They had a huge generational gain in path tracing. TechTubers just did a shit job talking about it after they spent 5 mins talking about architectural differences. Honestly biggest WTF for me today.

Path tracing performance is fine

58 fps @ $599 is the, far as I know, cheapest price entry to playable Cyberpunk 2077 path tracing in GPU world, but if anyone has another card in mind don't hesitate to bring it up.

Could even be playable at 4K with FSR4 performance, further tweaks to settings and you can even slap frame gen on that boi with AMD.

You need to find a 5070 Ti under $900 to compare bang for bucks for one of the hardest path tracing game to run in existence. This is a major major leap from RDNA 3.

SolidQ , you are more into AMD news than me, but what is a 7900XTX performance at 1440p FSR balanced overdrive?

 

[ResilientBanana]

9070XT after OC

So why not just OC the 5070 or 5070TI? You can't look at OC as a standard spec.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Found another cyberpunk overdrive



At 4K FSR performance, it almost matches 5070

5070 (38), 9070XT (35), 9070 (32)

1440p FSR balanced it shows roughly same performances as Optimum's 58 fps.

5070 (58), 9070XT (54), 9070 (48)

To me this is a major leap compared to their previous architecture. Never has AMD been this close to Nvidia.

Now I wish there was a 9090XT

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

629€ for the 9070.

 

[SolidQ]

but what is a 7900XTX performance at 1440p FSR balanced overdrive?

Hard to say, i'm really not looking into PT/RT benchmarks. Only pure perf

 

[Boo Who?]

What time do these go on sale tomorrow in the states? No one has anything up on their stores yet. I have $200 in best buy bucks waiting to be spent on a new card.

 

[zeroluck]

??

They did add dedicated RT & ML

They had a huge generational gain in path tracing. TechTubers just did a shit job talking about it after they spent 5 mins talking about architectural differences. Honestly biggest WTF for me today.

Path tracing performance is fine

58 fps @ $599 is the, far as I know, cheapest price entry to playable Cyberpunk 2077 path tracing in GPU world, but if anyone has another card in mind don't hesitate to bring it up.

Could even be playable at 4K with FSR4 performance, further tweaks to settings and you can even slap frame gen on that boi with AMD.

You need to find a 5070 Ti under $900 to compare bang for bucks for one of the hardest path tracing game to run in existence. This is a major major leap from RDNA 3.

SolidQ , you are more into AMD news than me, but what is a 7900XTX performance at 1440p FSR balanced overdrive?

Path tracing only become a transformative experience once you have at least 4090 performance, even then you are playing at ~40-50fps. 1440p internal resolution is the minimum I find the image quality to be ideal, that is with ray reconstruction, without it forget about it.

This is the perf at 4k quality upscaling, AMD is still pretty far behind.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Sold.
Probably not ASAP but a 9070 XT will be my PC component purchase this year.

I have a feeling that it won't be at MSRP for long.

 

[kiphalfton]

The God damn base 5070 being that low is such a let down, such a trash card.

This tells me my RTX 3080 is worth at least $550. With inflated prices of the 5070, maybe as high as like $800-$900.

I joke, but I actually paid $850 or so for my EVGA FTW3 Ultra RTX 3080, which was one of the highest end cards at the time.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Path tracing only become a transformative experience once you have at least 4090 performance, even then you are playing at ~40-50fps. 1440p internal resolution is the minimum I find the image quality to be ideal, that is with ray reconstruction, without it forget about it.

This is the perf at 4k quality upscaling, AMD is still pretty far behind.

Hmm nice site

Radeon RX 9070 XT und 9070 im Test: AMD sprengt die Erwartungen!

Pathtracing-Benchmarks & Leistungsindex

www.pcgameshardware.de

By far the most path tracing benchmarks

I still think it gets to playable framerates with 1440p and I mean, I've dabbled in overdrive too with a 3080 Ti and it was playable even before DLSS 4 performance. I think AMD fans can live without ray reconstruction for a while honestly.

It also shows it leaps 7900XTX gen to gen

The worst offender are Black myth wukong and Indiana Jones. No idea what's going on with that Indiana jones bench as the AMD flatlined, so did 5070. I would say VRAM is a problem for 5070 but not for AMD side. Drivers probably.

Alan wake 2 & Cyberpunk seems to follow Nvidia's curve quite surprisingly well. Considering the price.

As for what is acceptable, that's on an individual basis. I still think some AMD 9070XT owners will now look into path traced games for sure.

As a 3080 Ti owner I don't know what to do. 4090 are gone and expensive otherwise. 5080 is a unicorn, 5090 is too expensive but again, a unicorn. 5070 Ti is a shitshow with MSRP, etc.

I think I might wait to see how this shit stabilizes.

 

[64gigabyteram]

Path tracing only become a transformative experience once you have at least 4090 performance

Then none of the cards below 4090 and 5090 really count in this regard, and expecting a 70 class to surpass a 90 class behemoth like the 4090 in path tracing is crazy work.

AMD's RT is very competitive this gen, and I think their work will eventually make RT become more accepted as the 9070 becomes cheaper and more accessible to people with non RT capable/past AMD gpus who are still coping about RT (myself included)

 

[delishcaek]

These are MSRP for the reference models, Sapphire however has 2 "Pulse" versions they sell for MSRP. Availability is another question, though, hence I am saying "if you can get one"

Verfügbarkeit und Preise: Hier gibt es AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT und RX 9070 zu kaufen

Wir informieren, wo es AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT und Radeon RX 9070 zu welchem Preis ab Lager zu kaufen gibt.

www.computerbase.de

You'll have to wait another 12 hours before you can buy them.

 

[Buggy Loop]

9070XT (not oc) vs 7900XTX for generational leap

Description	Alan Wake 2	Black Myth Wukong	Cyberpunk 2077	Half-Life ray traced	Indiana Jones	Portal RTX	Quake 2 RTX	Star wars outlaws
4k	158%	188%	129%	99%	96%	115%	115%	103%
1440p	151%	163%	130%	91%	92%	108%	110%	111%

9070XT (not oc) vs 5070 Ti

Description	Alan Wake 2	Black Myth Wukong	Cyberpunk 2077	Half-Life ray traced	Indiana Jones	Portal RTX	Quake 2 RTX	Star wars outlaws
4k	73%	40%	68%	64%	35%	66%	71%	79%
1440p	77%	42%	69%	69%	40%	62%	73%	84%

Indiana Jones seems broken for sure, even 5070 here is kneecapped

Black Myth wukong somehow flattens the RDNA 4 under a 5070 by quite a margin so that's... yea.

Cyberpunk 2077 seems to reach the "playable" state with 1440p. FSR4 performance maybe with 4k. Don't getting this is max, so really, optimization to be found.

Pretty big jump architecture wise compared to RDNA 3, considering it has to leap 7900XTX with was flagship and this is mid range.

But like zeroluck says, for some games its border on playable while some it just didn't leap enough. I don't expect the RTX remix games to perform that well. It'll be on AMD users to test.

9070XT vs 5070 Ti for what is playable and not broken is maybe ~70% in some cases but again, if the card is true MSRP $599, means you have to find a 5070 Ti under ~$900 for it to make sense.

 

[Kazdane]

Just found out about the prices here in Germany and damn they surprised me. 689€ for the XT, 629€ for the 9070. I was expecting 799€, because the PS5 Pro is also 799€.

You can build a banger upper mid-range rig for 100-200€ more than a PS5 Pro (with disc drive) if you can grab an MSRP model. Hope there's enough stock and I hope that people buy this card over 5070s so NVidia has to change something with their pricing.

I hope it's the same here in Spain. Because a XT under 700€ for me it's a no brainer considering the alternatives.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

9070xt looks interesting to me because it would be a bigger upgrade for me, but I can't overlook the power efficiency of the 9070

 

[dave_d]

I wonder how effective now in stock will be for finding one of them.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I wonder if this means after half a decade of saying RT doesn't matter and is overrated and useless, AMD fans will suddenly start caring about RT now

 

[cripterion]

Still have no GPU and prices and availability are still shit in 2025 (here in Japan).

I game at 1440p, 165hz monitor so I'm eyeing that 5070TI, just wish it came at a decent price. Anyways, back to the long wait. Good that AMD is coming up with these cards though.

 

[Bojji]

So, looks like it's on par with my GPU (4070ti super) in raster:

And worse in rt:

And AMD lied about performance difference between 7900gre and this one... Again.

Overall I think it's a good launch, rt performance is much better and FINALLY they have good Dlss competitor. FSR4 looks really good.

 

[ArtHands]

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Review - IGN

www.ign.com

Full score on IGN

 

[twilo99]

How are they Nvidia cards so much more efficient across the board? I thought they were both on the same TSMC node..

 

[Unknown Soldier]

How are they Nvidia cards so much more efficient across the board? I thought they were both on the same TSMC node..

Historically, Nvidia was always more efficient than AMD when using equivalent node except once or twice ever

 

[CrustyBritches]

It’s weird Best Buy and Newegg don’t have any cards listed. I talked to the guys at the local Best Buy and they said they don’t see it in the system. Also they said they didn’t have a single 5070 allocated. Weird shit.

 

[demigod]

OC UK

Oh damn, are they themselves jacking up the price after a few hundred are sold or is it the manufacturer?

Ilien did not live(banned) to see an AMD comeback.

 

[twilo99]

Historically, Nvidia was always more efficient than AMD when using equivalent node except once or twice ever

I guess so ..

Those 3000 series Samsung chips were horrible

 

[legacy24]

Do you guys think a 650w psu is enough for the XT paired with a 5800x, 16gb ram

 

[Buggy Loop]

And AMD lied about performance difference between 7900gre and this one... Again.

20% benchmark gain vs (iirc) 42% marketing?

I don't know how AMD marketing works honestly, will always surprise me. But eh, I always wait benchmarks anyway.

Not sure how Nvidia can react now with mid range. No reference cards. Can you really tell your AIBs to lower price when they're selling out either way?

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Was looking to spend 350-400 on an older GPU.. but this price seems in striking distance of that in the end. I'm not fully in understanding, but looks like it could be an option if retail price could be had for me. Using 1080ti right now, goal of 2k gameplay @ 60 fps. I guess the question is this - for whatever I could find at 350-400 - is it worth it to bite the bullet and get this?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Do you guys think a 650w psu is enough for the XT paired with a 5800x, 16gb ram

I mean, technically it should be enough, especially if it's gold rated, but I personally wouldn't do it.