Jigolo
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lol. Good review that basically falls in line with what other's have said. Weak camera(s), average battery life (will get you through your day) but everything else is A+ stuff.
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lol. Good review that basically falls in line with what other's have said. Weak camera(s), average battery life (will get you through your day) but everything else is A+ stuff.
anywhere from 3-8 megabytes
BertramCooper
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Baroquemantic
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The more I think about it, the more Motorola seems like a startup. They come off as a young company with the way they show off their products and how genuinely excited they seem to be. Google should've kept them around. F'n idiots.
OPO battery = 3100mah
Moto X battery = 2300mah
OPO battery = ass
Moto X battery = acceptable
I think this is a good example of how much of a difference software makes in battery life. People can complain all day how small 2300mah is, including me because I'm still pissed, but you have to admit the engineers over at Moto are wizards. They also have an ace up their sleeve because they designed it with L in mind.
Hopefully OnePlus figures their shit out.
Really? The pictures I've seen so far look great. I mean the low-light ones are underwhelming but that's what flash is for....
BoboBrazil
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When I had a Opo before battery life was awesome. If you are having battery issues you probably have apps creating wake locks. I suggest rooting and installing greenify.
It's a long time since I had an Android phone with THOSE problems. Too bad some One Plus phones still have to deal with that.
I wonder how well these work on a non-touch Chromebook like my C720?
Zombie James
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Chome dev tools has touch event emulation. There might be something similar to that.
MuddyDonut
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I'll be there when it happens.
And what do you guys think about Apple Pay (hopefully) inadvertantly reviving interest in Google Wallet?
HELP!
So far my touch screen smart phone history is...
iPhone 3G
iPhone 4
iPhone 5
It all of a sudden occurred to me that maybe I should re-evaluate if there's any reason being on the Apple camp. I'm looking at the iPhone 6 and there's just some nagging voice in my head saying it's an expensive phone and justifying it is hard when there's obviously better ones for the same price. Here's a short list of pros and cons I did after like 15 minutes of research:
Xperia Z3
+ nicer screen
+ faster guts
+ waterproof
+ PS4 remote play
+ chromecast screen mirroring if I buy a 30 chromecast (instead of 100 AppleTV) (Or is it just in Android L?)
+ current deal is pre-orders get a 120 Sony headset for free
+ Chrome as default browser
- ??? (Most likely tons of annoyances I won't be used to and know nothing about)
iPhone 6
+ I'm used to it
+ Looks a little better (only one port and no flippy floppy port covers)
- Apple stuff I don't like (but at least I have gotten used to these, like lack of customization and some small annoyances)
I'm so afraid. What if I like Android better? What if it's a complete shit show and I don't like it? I don't associate myself with or define myself by any product so any philosophical differences or street creds don't interest me.
So far my touch screen smart phone history is...
iPhone 3G
iPhone 4
iPhone 5
It all of a sudden occurred to me that maybe I should re-evaluate if there's any reason being on the Apple camp. I'm looking at the iPhone 6 and there's just some nagging voice in my head saying it's an expensive phone and justifying it is hard when there's obviously better ones for the same price. Here's a short list of pros and cons I did after like 15 minutes of research:
Xperia Z3
+ nicer screen
+ faster guts
+ waterproof
+ PS4 remote play
+ chromecast screen mirroring if I buy a 30 chromecast (instead of 100 AppleTV) (Or is it just in Android L?)
+ current deal is pre-orders get a 120 Sony headset for free
+ Chrome as default browser
- ??? (Most likely tons of annoyances I won't be used to and know nothing about)
iPhone 6
+ I'm used to it
+ Looks a little better (only one port and no flippy floppy port covers)
- Apple stuff I don't like (but at least I have gotten used to these, like lack of customization and some small annoyances)
I'm so afraid. What if I like Android better? What if it's a complete shit show and I don't like it? I don't associate myself with or define myself by any product so any philosophical differences or street creds don't interest me.
BoboBrazil
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Franco just released a new version of his kernel that fixes some battery issues and updated the touch screen driver. I'd recommend rooting and using it.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Just get the Z3. If you don't like it, oh well. It's only a phone and a new one will eventually come around.
SolidSnakeUS
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If it works on your carrier, I'd definitely go for the Z3. Basically the best all around phone on the market, period. Size, features, quality and so on. Just fucking good.
The Faceless Master
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thats called a PC. they already make them.
RoadHazard
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I'm not sure I like this direction. I want more syncing and communication between my phone and my PC, but running actual Android apps on the latter? Not sure that's the best solution.
Wonder if that's what's killing mine.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
This exists. There are some new models with Intel procs and decent screen rez. They just haven't gotten the price down yet to C720 level aka 200 bones.
My OPO battery life is awesome right now. I did experience the wake lock issue (Android System) causing excessive drain within 24 hours of flashing 33r, but for whatever reason that has went away on its own. I haven't changed anything.
Other negs would be
- you won't have 'it just works' OS with iOS as much with Android
- Compatibility with other Mac devices might be slightly annoying to solve (ecosystem problems)
- slightly less smooth experience (but probably most consumers wont notice)
- Personal (UI and icons looks a bit odd compared to Sense UI)
- Glass could crack easily, although it is tempered
- 16GB for apps only (I'm not sure how app heavy of a user you are) but has SD expansion for consumption needs
Compared to other Android flagships
- Front facing speakers not as good as HTC (but better than all other flagships)
- Updates will be less timely than Nexus or other OEM (especially for the big one Android L)
+ A positive you missed, it has an insane battery life. (very very good)
+ Very simplistic UI which is closest to Stock Android
+ Looks fantastic
+ Dedicated camera button
Why not wait and try it in store?
EDIT: Oh you can;t wait and try it in store, try to look at as much comparison videos of it. Also, look at Z2 reviews since the Z3 is an evolution of the Z2.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Build quality? Trackpad? Screen? From that Verge article, C270P seemed the best but it's still not without fault. It needs a better screen.
The Faceless Master
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you seem to have carefully thought this decision out. get the Z3.
So I just installed a update on my S4, I'm on Cyanogenmod and when the phone rebooted it came up with a few errors: 'Google play store has stopped working' 'Google play services has stopped working' and what not, cleared the cache/data rebooted.
Play Store said it couldn't connect so I Googled around and saw a few people saying remove the Google account and re add it. Did that and now I can't add back my account, when I press add account and then Google it does absolutely nothing. Now all my apps are fucked like Gmail/Play Store etc.
Anyone know how to fix this?
Play Store said it couldn't connect so I Googled around and saw a few people saying remove the Google account and re add it. Did that and now I can't add back my account, when I press add account and then Google it does absolutely nothing. Now all my apps are fucked like Gmail/Play Store etc.
Anyone know how to fix this?
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Unprecedented. Also komplanen, carefully consider if you want to heed advice from someone getting a regular Note over the Edge.
Try clearing Google Play Services app data.
RoadHazard
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Wow, the new Hangouts update is pretty bad. It looks worse (some of the Material-ish changes are fine, but the mix of black and white text and icons looks bad), you can no longer swipe to get to the conversation list (which is much more important than being able to swipe to some general contacts page), etc. Not happy with this at all.
This might have been true at one point, but I don't think it is anymore. 99% of everything any regular user might want to do absolutely "just works", and modern Android is very user-friendly. The view of iOS as easy to use and Android as some complicated mess for nerds is severely outdated.
This might have been true at one point, but I don't think it is anymore. 99% of everything any regular user might want to do absolutely "just works", and modern Android is very user-friendly. The view of iOS as easy to use and Android as some complicated mess for nerds is severely outdated.
BertramCooper
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Uhh, yeah you can.
Eanan
Member
So happy. Just as I bought a samsung Chromebook.
Hopefully android apps can be installed to SD card, and we eventually get stuff like Skype, Viber etc.
The Faceless Master
Member
try inst alling the latest gapps package?
It's very all over the place in terms of design. It feels very unfinished. But a big thing like dark icons + white text is a really strange miss to make.
Uhh, no you can't.
The Faceless Master
Member
does the Edge even have PREMIUM MATERIALS like REAL METAL EDGES? no? oh...
yo, what's up with Sammy and this launch date?
RoadHazard
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No, I cannot. Entering a conversation opens a new screen now, and you have to press Back to get back to the conversion list. This is a regression in usability IMO.
Eanan
Member
Are you on the latest software? Have you rooted and installed Greenify?
This is what im currently on, which I consider to be good battery life.
Im running Greenify with xposed module. Lots of apps greenfield.
BertramCooper
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Okay, gotcha. I didn't realize you meant while in a conversation. My bad.
Jazzy Network
Member
I turned off some keep awake function on my OPO so I'm hoping that will make it better. Won't really find out till tomorrow when I start over. So frustrating.
I agree. Someone who picks a regular Note over the Edge should have their opions taken seriously, as they have fine taste.
You shouldn't have to do all that to achieve the battery life other people are achieving by doing nothing.
Depends, can you live with TouchWiz? If so, that's a pretty good deal.
What's wrong with the C720P?
->
Software, how does it work?
True, but I'm talking relative to iOS, not absolute terms.
The Faceless Master
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Aesius
Member
So...I still have a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) and desperately want a new phone.
The new Moto X looks awesome, and after playing around with my gf's S3 and S5, I don't think I can deal with an Android skin. I love stock way too much.
Should I just go ahead and get the X or wait for something like the Z3?
I mean, I've waited SO damn long because I wanted a phone that would really blow me away, but it seems like the X is still sort of "meh" specs-wise, while the Z3 looks pretty impressive.
What do, GAF?
The new Moto X looks awesome, and after playing around with my gf's S3 and S5, I don't think I can deal with an Android skin. I love stock way too much.
Should I just go ahead and get the X or wait for something like the Z3?
I mean, I've waited SO damn long because I wanted a phone that would really blow me away, but it seems like the X is still sort of "meh" specs-wise, while the Z3 looks pretty impressive.
What do, GAF?
You've waited this long, wait a bit longer and see what Google announces. Shouldn't be further than 1-2 months away, but all signs point to next month at the latest.
Otherwise the Z3 really seems like an incredible offering, can't go wrong with it. Moto X is great if you want an extremely solid phone with some handy features, but you're willing to make a slight sacrifice in battery life compared to the competition.
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