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[jokkir]

Wow pretty impressed that LG nailed the look and all metal to boot?

If the iPhone 6 doesn't work out, this just might be my next.

Hopefully I could get rid of LG's skin altogether though.

All plastic you mean

 

[snacknuts]

The G3 looks incredible, but I'll have to hold it in my hand to see if I could use it as a daily driver. I never got used to the size of the Note 3. G2 was perfect. Still curious to see if there will be a Nexus 6 and how it compares.

 

[solarus]

I'm still worried about how the 801 will perform with an even higher res screen. The galaxy s5 can have hiccups and that's only 1080p, but maybe that's just because of touchwiz bloat. A later release packed with an 805 would have been great.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Still wondering if Samsung has gotten the Exynos worked out yet or if the Note 4 will have Qualcomm too.

 

[VoxPop]

All plastic you mean

Fail. I guess the search continues

 

[OriginalThinking]

I'm still worried about how the 801 will perform with an even higher res screen. The galaxy s5 can have hiccups and that's only 1080p, but maybe that's just because of touchwiz bloat. A later release packed with an 805 would have been great.

It'll perform fine. Performance issues on the S5 are due to the awfulness that is Touchwiz. The Nexus 5 is smooth as butter with a weaker CPU/GPU than the S5. The 805 would be nice, but the 801 is more than sufficient. Motorola have proved that you don't need a beastly CPU/GPU to have smooth performance. It's all about software optimisation. Nobody should be shitting the bed - the G3 uses the highest specc'd SOC currently available in the market.

 

[DrFunk]

Vlad Savov'd

 

[shinshoryuken]

I'm still worried about how the 801 will perform with an even higher res screen. The galaxy s5 can have hiccups and that's only 1080p, but maybe that's just because of touchwiz bloat. A later release packed with an 805 would have been great.

I think that the 801 is fine, but if the 2 primes comes out with the 805 in just a couple of months later then it will be a hard decision..

Dayam timing sucks... LG probably didn't think that Samsung or HTC will be coming out with something else thus year. Actually who knew?

 

[Toki767]

So far both hands on videos with the G3 I've seen seem very smooth. This whole 805/801 CPU thing is getting blown out of proportion.

Reminds me of when Samsung decided to use a Snapdragon CPU on their US Galaxy S3 phones rather than their Exynos.

 

[Groof]

It'll perform fine. Performance issues on the S5 are due to the awfulness that is Touchwiz. The Nexus 5 is smooth as butter with a weaker CPU/GPU than the S5. The 805 would be nice, but the 801 is more than sufficient. Motorola have proved that you don't need a beastly CPU/GPU to have smooth performance. It's all about software optimisation. Nobody should be shitting the bed - the G3 uses the highest specc'd SOC currently available in the market.

Indeed. And if the marketing PR bull that LG said is at least somewhat true about the display being optimised for lower energy and battery drain, then battery life will probably be fine as well.

 

[OriginalThinking]

So far both hands on videos with the G3 I've seen seem very smooth. This whole 805/801 CPU thing is getting blown out of proportion.

Reminds me of when Samsung decided to use a Snapdragon CPU on their US Galaxy S3 phones rather than their Exynos.

If people are genuinely worried that the 801 isn't good enough they've lost all touch with reality. We're definitely at the point of diminishing returns in terms of 2D UI performance. You can get smooth UI performance on way less than an 801, what a more powerful SOC might do is offer a little more speed and improved 3D graphics performance, but there's very few if any games on Android that will really push the GPU in an 801 at this point. The biggest improvement in the 805 would be even better power management, an area which the 801 is hardly a slouch in anyway.

 

[Toki767]

I will laugh at people if the S5 Prime and the M8 Prime with an 805 end up having worse battery life than the G3.

 

[Groof]

G3 is already up for pre-orders here in Sweden, with a release date set for June 27. So far away!

 

[Vanillalite]

b b b b but I love the front facing speakers lol. M8 is garbage. HTC is garbage. Boom Display>>>>>Boom Sound.

Though designed to simulate the look of brushed metal, the LG G3's construction remains plastic. Lightweight, well-rounded, and comfortable in the hand, but not as delightful as the all-aluminum HTC One. - The Verge

b b b but we tried to fake it and make it look like metal lol. G3 is garbage. LG is garbage. Real Metal >>>>> Fake Plastic

 

[Toki767]

The Verge is hilarious in that line. They admit themselves that the device is lightweight, well-rounded, and very comfortable to hold in one hand. But just because it's not metal it's not delightful.

 

[DrFunk]

they all have their strengths and weaknesses, you idiots

 

[OriginalThinking]

Though designed to simulate the look of brushed metal, the LG G3's construction remains plastic. Lightweight, well-rounded, and comfortable in the hand, but not as delightful as the all-aluminum HTC One. - The Verge

b b b but we tried to fake it and make it look like metal lol. G3 is garbage. LG is garbage. Real Metal >>>>> Fake Plastic

Phone fanboyism is weird isn't it? It's not enough for people to enjoy a phone that suits their needs. Instead we must allow our insecurity to shit all over the competition because we're afraid it might be better and we can't allow ourselves to admit that our $800 dollar smartphone might not be the best one.

That said, legitimate constructive critiscm of a handset is no bad thing, but when your criticism is a ludicrous attack on a superior feature than the phone you intend to purchase you sacrifice any credibility. Rather than attack the M8 for having front facing, higher quality speakers than the G3 just accept it and move on. Don't try to downplay it because it makes you feel insecure about your purchase.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Man the g3 looks slick. So jealous that I have to stick with my n4 for another year!

As for the whole plastic/metal debate, to be honest I think it looks great, the metal like skin if fine and I would take the benefits of a removable back.

 

[shinshoryuken]

If people are genuinely worried that the 801 isn't good enough they've lost all touch with reality. We're definitely at the point of diminishing returns in terms of 2D UI performance. You can get smooth UI performance on way less than an 801, what a more powerful SOC might do is offer a little more speed and improved 3D graphics performance, but there's very few if any games on Android that will really push the GPU in an 801 at this point. The biggest improvement in the 805 would be even better power management, an area which the 801 is hardly a slouch in anyway.

That's the thing 800 -> 801 was a huge in improvement in battery life.

The z1 with an 800 vs the Z2 with 801 showed a huge battery improvement, although the baterry is slightly on the bigger 3000 vs 3200, but I doubt the extra 200 made a huge difference...

The G3 do have a removable battery though...

 

[kehs]

they all have their strengths and weaknesses, you idiots

All I see is a single winner and three losers.

 

[Vanillalite]

If people are genuinely worried that the 801 isn't good enough they've lost all touch with reality. We're definitely at the point of diminishing returns in terms of 2D UI performance. You can get smooth UI performance on way less than an 801, what a more powerful SOC might do is offer a little more speed and improved 3D graphics performance, but there's very few if any games on Android that will really push the GPU in an 801 at this point. The biggest improvement in the 805 would be even better power management, an area which the 801 is hardly a slouch in anyway.

How do we know though? I'd wage everyone not named AJ and his reboot every 10 mins N10 is using a device at 1080p or lower.

The idea that pushing an extra million and a half pixels for the screen just isn't gonna change things is ludicrous.

I'm not saying it won't be fine, but there is reason to see to believe you might need extra power. The idea that you can get smooth UI performance on way less than a 801 doesn't really tell you much. I'm sure a a GPU from 5 years ago could easily push a QVGA screen.

 

[liger05]

Can upgrade in July and getting the G3. Phone looks dope.

The UK is getting the 32GB/3GB ram yes?

 

[VoxPop]

they all have their strengths and weaknesses, you idiots

Lol doesn't the M8 have a sd card slot? Why is it omitted from that chart?

 

[Shepard]

No ip67, no fingerprint scanner, no 805, only the 32g version has 3gb (this will probably not be as widely available as the 16, at least here in brazil), 13mp camera, bigger display with the same 3000mAh battery.. I've been following news for this phone for 3-4 months and it managed to disappoint in almost every single aspect. I was hoping it would be as avant-garde as the g2, well, I guess not. This would be a a beast of a phone, if if was announced 2 months ago; specially with the prime versions coming around June too. Damn lg, why?

 

[Bboy AJ]

How do we know though? I'd wage everyone not named AJ and his reboot every 10 mins N10 is using a device at 1080p or lower.

The idea that pushing an extra million and a half pixels for the screen just isn't gonna change things is ludicrous.

I'm not saying it won't be fine, but there is reason to see to believe you might need extra power. The idea that you can get smooth UI performance on way less than a 801 doesn't really tell you much. I'm sure a a GPU from 5 years ago could easily push a QVGA screen.

The G3 is fucked with that processor. My N10 struggles with this res. Well, maybe not struggles but it certainly isn't effortless. G3 is the new iPad 3. It'll struggle sooner than later.

 

[Toki767]

Err...the Nexus 10's resolution is 2560x1600. Not 2560x1440p. Also it doesn't even use the Snapdragon 801 that I know of.

 

[Vanillalite]

Err...the Nexus 10's resolution is 1600p. Not 1440p. Also it doesn't even use the Snapdragon 801 that I know of.

The point is the G3 is roughly 3.6 million pixels. The current high end crop of stuff is 2.1 million pixels.

There is a bigger gap between 1440p and 1080p than there is between 1080p and 720p. Let that sink in for a sec.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Err...the Nexus 10's resolution is 2560x1600. Not 2560x1440p. Also it doesn't even use the Snapdragon 801 that I know of.

The N10 is on some dual-core Exynos IIRC

 

[shinshoryuken]

The point is the G3 is roughly 3.6 million pixels. The current high end crop of stuff is 2.1 million pixels.

There is a bigger gap between 1440p and 1080p than there is between 1080p and 720p. Let that sink in for a sec.

Performance and battery life should be fine.

All we are doing is assuming, LG engineer should know better than us.

 

[Vanillalite]

Performance and battery life should be fine.

All we are doing is assuming, LG engineer should know better than us.

Apple engineers should know better, but it's not like the iPad 3 or OG Retina MacBook Pro didn't happen.

I'm not assuming it'll be bad. I'm just saying don't pass it off like it couldn't be a problem. I'll be eagerly awaiting Andtech to do their review.

Spoiler

Plus it isn't like I took all of those years of STEM classes for nothing.

 

[Pooya]

galaxy note 10.1 2014 ed has s800 at 2560x1600. Haven't used one myself, it could be an indication how well g3 could work though tablet tdp limits are a bit different.

edit: I see Oppo Find 7 is similar too.

 

[OriginalThinking]

The G3 is fucked with that processor. My N10 struggles with this res. Well, maybe not struggles but it certainly isn't effortless. G3 is the new iPad 3. It'll struggle sooner than later.

Let's make it a ban bet. We just need to decide what the definition of "fucked" is.

 

[malyce]

Phone fanboyism is weird isn't it? It's not enough for people to enjoy a phone that suits their needs. Instead we must allow our insecurity to shit all over the competition because we're afraid it might be better and we can't allow ourselves to admit that our $800 dollar smartphone might not be the best one.

That said, legitimate constructive critiscm of a handset is no bad thing, but when your criticism is a ludicrous attack on a superior feature than the phone you intend to purchase you sacrifice any credibility. Rather than attack the M8 for having front facing, higher quality speakers than the G3 just accept it and move on. Don't try to downplay it because it makes you feel insecure about your purchase.

Ok so we're gonna sit here and act like the FF speakers on the M8 isn't a colossal waste of space? I mean no one is denying it's the best sounding phone, but how often do you have your phone on speaker compared to the amount of time you spend interacting with the display? The trade off isn't worth it in my opinion, but that's just me. If it works for you so be it.

I'm really trying to hold on to my N4 till the 20nm SoCs come to market, but If Google/Apple does something I like between now and then, I may bite.

 

[OriginalThinking]

Ok so we're gonna sit here and act like the FF speakers on the M8 isn't a colossal waste of space? I mean no one is denying it's the best sounding phone, but how often do you have your phone on speaker compared to the amount of time you spend interacting with the display? The trade off isn't worth it in my opinion, but that's just me. If it works for you so be it.

Actually I listen to audio on my phone without headphones in a lot. Particularly YouTube.

Hey and guess what, I don't even have an M8. If you've decided that you prefer the extra screen estate and that's more important to you than audio that's perfectly reasonable. I just don't understand why that has to turn into a "shit on the M8, Lol boomsound" post, because it smacks of insecurity.

 

[Zeppu]

MKBHD's impressions

 

[Toki767]

MKBHD's impressions

The software seems to run perfectly fine in that video. Obviously testing the battery life will be the important thing, but I'd imagine LG's battery hacks are probably much better than they were on the G2 which is still pretty great.

 

[Groof]

LG is confident that if the display doesn't get you interested in the G3, the phone's new laser sensor will -- and the feature almost didn't even make it into the final product. A first in the digital camera industry, the new feature was actually developed by Roboking, the makers of LG's robotic vacuums. Originally, it was intended to measure the distance between the vacuum and obstacles that it may have to maneuver around. Roboking dropped it for a number of reasons, but they told the mobile team about it over a coffee break and the rest is now history: Imaging specialists went to work adding the vacuum's laser beams to the G3, which helped the camera snag an even faster focus lock than its closest competitors (both the One M8 and Galaxy S5 boast 300ms focus times, whereas the G3 claims 250ms). Fortunately for our eyes and sanity, this sensor doesn't double as a laser pointer.

Inside LG's G3: How vacuums, focus groups and competitive pressure shaped a smartphone

 

[BoboBrazil]

G3 looks nice, but 801 means I gotta wait for dat Prime.

 

[Toki767]

So I tried out the M8 today. It seems weird that you can tap twice to turn the screen on, but you can't tap twice to turn the screen off unless you're on the lockscreen.

 

[Massa]

So I tried out the M8 today. It seems weird that you can tap twice to turn the screen on, but you can't tap twice to turn the screen off unless you're on the lockscreen.

What if a game or some other app has a different use for double tap? You'd unintentionally lock the screen.

 

[Toki767]

What if a game or some other app has a different use for double tap? You'd unintentionally lock the screen.

Well on the G2 you can double tap the status bar anywhere and it'll turn the screen off. I guess HTC didn't think that one through.

 

[Vanillalite]

What if a game or some other app has a different use for double tap? You'd unintentionally lock the screen.

In theory you could just make it active when you are on the home screen.

Honestly most interested in the laser camera stuff for the LG G3.

 

[overthehill99]

I'm moving back to the US from the UK and need to get a individual plan for my Nexus 5. Anyone have any suggestions? I was looking at T-Mobile and Spring, but those seem to be, a minimum, $50-$80 a month for a capped plan? This is really gonna be tough to swallow after paying $20 a month for a perfect coverage unlimited plan here.

Any suggestions, or am I forced to use one of those two?

 

[Junior Mint]

So I tried out the M8 today. It seems weird that you can tap twice to turn the screen on, but you can't tap twice to turn the screen off unless you're on the lockscreen.

That phone was dead to me the second those idiots made a phone that big AND put the power button on top.

 

[Ambient80]

I love HTC's design, but damn if the G3 isn't nice. It'll be a tough decision between the G3 and One Prime (assuming that actually happens).

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Performance and battery life should be fine.

All we are doing is assuming, LG engineer should know better than us.

At this point if people care that much about GPU performance they should be hoping and praying that Tegra K1 can actually work in a phone and not kill batteries because Tiny Kepler supposedly has 2x the performance at same power use compared to any currently available mobile GPU solution.

That phone was dead to me the second those idiots made a phone that big AND put the power button on top.

That and the dumb 4 MP camera that HTC keeps pretending is better than the 12+ MP shooters on other flagships. And yeah, for such a big phone it sure has a small screen because of the stupid speakers. I guess there's somebody out there who buys HTC devices because you know metal is so inherently superior to plastic or whatever.

 

[Vooduu]

I'm moving back to the US from the UK and need to get a individual plan for my Nexus 5. Anyone have any suggestions? I was looking at T-Mobile and Spring, but those seem to be, a minimum, $50-$80 a month for a capped plan? This is really gonna be tough to swallow after paying $20 a month for a perfect coverage unlimited plan here.

Any suggestions, or am I forced to use one of those two?

Its like $80 unlimited everything for Tmobile individual if I'm not mistaken.

edit:http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/individual.html yup

 

[The Faceless Master]

Okay so G3 looks absolutely stunning, BUT... it's still plastic.
And the biggest mind bender is that the 16gb variant only has 2gb of ram, while the 32gb model has 3gb. What happened there?

Either way, still very excited for this phone and if I wasn't on contract I'd be all over it. If Motorola and Google lets us down by the time I'm free (December), I'll be with this phone.

more flagship for more money.

Wow pretty impressed that LG nailed the look and all metal to boot?

If the iPhone 6 doesn't work out, this just might be my next.

Hopefully I could get rid of LG's skin altogether though.

'the feel of metal'

 

[Talon]

What a hell of a turnaround for LG within 8 months. They went from a joke to a top 3 Android flagship.

 

[Toki767]

I wonder if the 16GB/2GB of RAM variant is a Korean only model and other places will get the 32GB/3GB of RAM variant or vice versa. It seems weird to offer two SKUs worldwide especially with microSD card support. At least LG aren't just charging $100 extra for only double the storage like Apple though.