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[NotBacon]

Thanks!

I'll see if I can get a good deal on a Nexus. If not, I might just go Moto G for a test run of a few weeks. The big decision will probably come next September. If Apple tries to pull an Apple and there's no RAM upgrade, I'll move over to Android. Hopefully I'll try it out before then though.

Gotta keep things fresh.

N6 is too crazy for me though. No way I could use a 6" phone. 4.5-5.2" is the best range imo.

I really wish I could tell you there is a phone as perfect as the Nexus 6 in your size range, but I can't :/ they each have flaws like smallish battery, sub-par camera, etc.

But if you're upgrading next fall, you might be in luck with the next Moto X or Nexus.

Anyways, have fun playing around with a new OS!

 

[Bboy AJ]

N6 is too crazy for me though. No way I could use a 6" phone. 4.5-5.2" is the best range imo.

Since you've never used anything but 3.5" or 4", how would you know?

 

[GtwoK]

Alright, I've been dying to get a new phone for months now. I'm stuck between 2 models, hoping to purchase withing the next few days.

32GB Nexus 5
32GB OnePlus One

• I'm buying off contract, so needs to be cheapish
• Need not shit battery life. Enough to get through at least a day of moderate - heavy use.
• Need at LEAST a somewhat decent camera. Obviously can't really expect iPhone-quality, just something nice.
• Want as close to vanilla android as possible. After Samsung and HTC, I'm tired of these bullshit-looking skins and forced garbage like Sense.

Considered the Moto X 2014, but it's very difficult to get in Canada for whatever reason.

Anyone have any final advice for me? I think the OPO is supposed to have a better camera than the N5, and looks nicer, but I've heard bad things about the company / shipping / invite stuff.

 

[kharma45]

Alright, I've been dying to get a new phone for months now. I'm stuck between 2 models, hoping to purchase withing the next few days.

32GB Nexus 5
32GB OnePlus One

• I'm buying off contract, so needs to be cheapish
• Need not shit battery life. Enough to get through at least a day of moderate - heavy use.
• Need at LEAST a somewhat decent camera. Obviously can't really expect iPhone-quality, just something nice.
• Want as close to vanilla android as possible. After Samsung and HTC, I'm tired of these bullshit-looking skins and forced garbage like Sense.

Considered the Moto X 2014, but it's very difficult to get in Canada for whatever reason.

Anyone have any final advice for me? I think the OPO is supposed to have a better camera than the N5, and looks nicer, but I've heard bad things about the company / shipping / invite stuff.

If battery is a concern then OnePlus One.

 

[Jazzy Network]

If you need a decent camera don't get a Moto X 2014. It's pretty bad. OPO might be your best option.

 

[Rizific]

Any way to roll back my lollipop update? This update fucked my moto x and I'm getting tired of it. The voice activation/recognition is fucked and the messaging app is fucked. It worked great pre lollipop and worked how it was supposed to. i like the lollipop update and don't want to resort to a 3rd party launcher. Can I retain the voice activation stuff with a 3rd party launcher and SMS app?

 

[Jazzy Network]

Moto X 2014? Just curious. I don't use the voice stuff at all so if that is the case it doesn't affect me.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/12/03/download-android-5-0-1-ota-zip-nexus-7-9-10-4-5-6/

Even with shit like that, my Nexus 7 2012 Wi-Fi still does not find any updates from Google (using Wi-Fi). Am I missing something?

 

[GtwoK]

If you need a decent camera don't get a Moto X 2014. It's pretty bad. OPO might be your best option.

How is the camera on the OPO? I keep hearing "it's better than the one on the _____", but I haven't heard what it's comparable to.

 

[Jazzy Network]

How is the camera on the OPO? I keep hearing "it's better than the one on the _____", but I haven't heard what it's comparable to.

I'd say it might be slightly below the G3. It's a good camera. It lacks OIS though.

 

[Rizific]

Moto X 2014? Just curious. I don't use the voice stuff at all so if that is the case it doesn't affect me.

Yes 2014 moto x. I like it when I'm home and I can listen to and respond to texts with my voice. But %80 of the time it doesn't work.

 

[GtwoK]

I'd say it might be slightly below the G3. It's a good camera. It lacks OIS though.

Bah, shame. I suppose since that's optical its mechanical and couldn't be added in a firmware update, right?

 

[Jazzy Network]

Bah, shame. I suppose since that's optical its mechanical and couldn't be added in a firmware update, right?

Yea OIS is not software. It does have digital stabilazation though.

 

[ito007]

I'm sorry if this has been discussed but I can't seem to find an answer.

And news on when we can expect android 5 on the first gen moto x?

 

[NotBacon]

Any way to roll back my lollipop update? This update fucked my moto x and I'm getting tired of it. The voice activation/recognition is fucked and the messaging app is fucked. It worked great pre lollipop and worked how it was supposed to. i like the lollipop update and don't want to resort to a 3rd party launcher. Can I retain the voice activation stuff with a 3rd party launcher and SMS app?

Have you tried Google Messenger or Google Now Launcher? Both tried and true for texting and voice actions.

 

[Jazzy Network]

Have you tried Google Messenger or Google Now Launcher? Both tried and true for texting and voice actions.

Um Google Now is the stock launcher.

 

[Gwanatu T]

I'd say it might be slightly below the G3. It's a good camera. It lacks OIS though.

I think it depends on the situation. Both LG and Samsung tend to bias a little too high on the denoise filters, although LG is much less offensive on that front. The camera on the OPO was better before Cyanogen added the denoise filter, as it tended to bias toward higher iso in lower light instead of a slower shutter. After one of the updates in September or October they changed the bias of the software and now it's more muddy than I would like. I usually try to use RAW on it to avoid the shiesty denoise filter in general and for this reason I'd prefer the OPOs camera.

 

[The Faceless Master]

I don't believe most have an issue with 2K screens, but rather the prioritisation of 2K over other facets of the phone. Most I know would rather take 1080p with a superior battery life than 2K and the hit it has. In the future, that hit will be mitigated, or batteries will be able to absorb it with ease, but right now, the bump in res simply isn't worth it.

but battery life went up. just like the last time resolution got bumped. and the time before. and the time before that. and people complained about 720p and 1080p too.

 

[jesalr]

but battery life went up. just like the last time resolution got bumped. and the time before. and the time before that. and people complained about 720p and 1080p too.

Right, but again, it's about compromise. At this point in time, I'd still rather the battery go up even more before the res goes up. Battery is still a major issue with most smartphones. I don't think very many people would say the same about resolution.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Right, but again, it's about compromise. At this point in time, I'd still rather the battery go up even more before the res goes up. Battery is still a major issue with most smartphones. I don't think very many people would say the same about resolution.

and people said that about qHD, 720p and 1080p too.

people will say it about 4K soon too, even as battery life continues to rise.

 

[NotBacon]

Um Google Now is the stock launcher.

You're right, I was thinking he had the 2013 model.

 

[NotBacon]

and people said that about qHD, 720p and 1080p too.

people will say it about 4K soon too, even as battery life continues to rise.

There is a real argument to be had here though, diminishing returns is a real thing. Just because we can doesn't mean we should.

 

[Rewrite]

Haven't gotten more than 2.5 SoT on the Note 4 in the week I've used it. Dropped 5% in an hour this morning. Sammy bringing that hot garbage as usual.

It's funny reading this to me, when I got like almost 8 hours of on screen time the other day. I consistently get six to seven hours per charge.

 

[jesalr]

and people said that about qHD, 720p and 1080p too.

people will say it about 4K soon too, even as battery life continues to rise.

And yet people in this thread and most others will lambast the N5 for its appalling battery life and camera well before the resolution.

 

[Wreav]

It's funny reading this to me, when I got like almost 8 hours of on screen time the other day. I consistently get six to seven hours per charge.

Sounds like you have every feature turned off.

 

[Spiritreaver]

MHL definitely works on the Tab S

what about Miracast? or you could always get a Chromecast and use screen mirroring.

Too much delay. I was mostly thinking of using it as a way to play emus on a TV while traveling.

How is the Tab S? I don't hear much about it. I was considering going that route, but I really don't like Samsung's designs.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Too much delay. I was mostly thinking of using it as a way to play emus on a TV while traveling.

How is the Tab S? I don't hear much about it. I was considering going that route, but I really don't like Samsung's designs.

if you haven't, try to hold/see it in person.

 

[Gwanatu T]

And yet people in this thread and most others will lambast the N5 for its appalling battery life and camera well before the resolution.

Except that most people are/were horribly misinformed about the n5 camera. The screen and battery life can't be defended much though.

 

[Jazzy Network]

What's wrong with the N5 screen?

 

[Sch1sm]

What's wrong with the N5 screen?

He didn't say anything was wrong with it.

 

[octave one]

haha I guess I just have low standards, because I think the pictures my N5 take are pretty good. I mean low light photos are blah, but im ok with that.

 

[Rewrite]

Sounds like you have every feature turned off.

Nope. Mostly everything is turned on.

 

[bob page]

I'd say it might be slightly below the G3. It's a good camera. It lacks OIS though.

Pretty much this. It's a pretty good camera that would be great if it had OIS.

 

[Bboy AJ]

haha I guess I just have low standards, because I think the pictures my N5 take are pretty good. I mean low light photos are blah, but im ok with that.

No, you are right. The N5 camera is great.

 

[brotkasten]

No, you are right. The N5 camera is great.

Maybe if you had a Nexus 4 before. The N5 camera is garbage. My Lumia 920 took much better pictures.

 

[kehs]

No, you are right. The N5 camera is great.

Stop using aj's account kingroin.

 

[Enco]

Since you've never used anything but 3.5" or 4", how would you know?

I've played around with a lot of friends models.

5.5" felt pretty damn huge but I might be able to get used to it.

4.7" was really nice.

I enjoy using my phone one handed and if I went 5.2"+, I would have to sacrifice that.

I really wish I could tell you there is a phone as perfect as the Nexus 6 in your size range, but I can't :/ they each have flaws like smallish battery, sub-par camera, etc.

But if you're upgrading next fall, you might be in luck with the next Moto X or Nexus.

Anyways, have fun playing around with a new OS!

Yea I'm hoping next year we see some great well rounded phones. I agree that no phone right now is perfect. One can dream.

 

[Majine]

I think Android could need a standardised sharing sheet. Some apps show it as a grid of apps, some show a list. Some are alphabetical and some are not. It's all confusing.

 

[BoboBrazil]

One Plus is giving away Flow Launcher free


1. Download the app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.larvalabs.flow&hl=en

2. Enjoy an unlimited access to the FlowHome launcher using the code ONEPLS

 

[Bboy AJ]

I've played around with a lot of friends models.

That doesn't count, though. But I think you have the right attitude with the 5.5" comment. I say just give it a shot. Don't let what you think is your maximum screen size deter you. Lots of us former "small" screen users were once there.

 

[demon]

I have kinda small hands and just jumped from the S3 to the Droid Turbo (4.7" to 5.2"?). The difference felt more substantial at first than I thought it would. For the first day or so I was seriously considering returning it because it just felt so cumbersome to use, but I think I'm already getting used to it and it's starting to feel more natural. Just 4 days after getting it I picked up my old S3 and it felt so small (and light) in comparison. I really cannot imagine going any larger than this, though. It would simply be impractical for a one-handed device.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Alright, I've been dying to get a new phone for months now. I'm stuck between 2 models, hoping to purchase withing the next few days.

32GB Nexus 5
32GB OnePlus One

• I'm buying off contract, so needs to be cheapish
• Need not shit battery life. Enough to get through at least a day of moderate - heavy use.
• Need at LEAST a somewhat decent camera. Obviously can't really expect iPhone-quality, just something nice.
• Want as close to vanilla android as possible. After Samsung and HTC, I'm tired of these bullshit-looking skins and forced garbage like Sense.

Considered the Moto X 2014, but it's very difficult to get in Canada for whatever reason.

Anyone have any final advice for me? I think the OPO is supposed to have a better camera than the N5, and looks nicer, but I've heard bad things about the company / shipping / invite stuff.

Needs not shitty battery life? Don't get a nexus 5. I loved mine but frealz lol it's bad

 

[NotBacon]

I have kinda small hands and just jumped from the S3 to the Droid Turbo (4.7" to 5.2"?). The difference felt more substantial at first than I thought it would. For the first day or so I was seriously considering returning it because it just felt so cumbersome to use, but I think I'm already getting used to it and it's starting to feel more natural. Just 4 days after getting it I picked up my old S3 and it felt so small (and light) in comparison. I really cannot imagine going any larger than this, though. It would simply be impractical for a one-handed device.

Currently browsing(and typing responses) GAF and reddit one handed on a 5.9" screen with ease, and my hands aren't even big.

I feel like a lot of people just look at a giant phone and an alarm goes off in their head telling them 'NO'. Same thing happened to me. Then I bought it anyways (because Nexus duh). I thought about returning it for a few days because my hands just weren't accustomed. Now I can't imagine going to a smaller phone again. It would suck so much.

 

[Wreav]

Nothing about using the Note one handed has been "easy" for this 6'3" man with big hands. Possible, yes, but not easy or convenient at all. For many, 4.7-5.2 is the one hand sweet spot.

 

[demon]

Currently browsing(and typing responses) GAF and reddit one handed on a 5.9" screen with ease, and my hands aren't even big.

I feel like a lot of people just look at a giant phone and an alarm goes off in their head telling them 'NO'. Same thing happened to me. Then I bought it anyways (because Nexus duh). I thought about returning it for a few days because my hands just weren't accustomed. Now I can't imagine going to a smaller phone again. It would suck so much.

How long are you fingers? I have short fingers. I like being able to wrap my fingers all the way around the phone and still being able to reach every point of the screen with my thumb so that I'm actually holding it and it's not just resting in my hand, which I could do on the S3 but cannot on the Turbo. I can manage on it but anything bigger would just be too unwieldy and I'd be worried about dropping it. Plus I only have limited space in my pockets...

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

I'm 5" 8' and I can use the Note 4 one-handed. I don't wrap my entire hand around it though, I'll let gravity do the work lol I keep my fingers around the centre, closer to the right and from there I can reach anywhere on screen with my thumb.

 

[Wreav]

I'm 5" 8' and I can use the Note 4 one-handed. I don't wrap my entire hand around it though, I'll let gravity do the work lol I keep my fingers around the centre, closer to the right and from there I can reach anywhere on screen with my thumb.

My eye twitched while reading this.

 

[jesalr]

Yeah, I'm definitely a 'gripper.' I don't feel safe balancing it on my fingers.

 

[Unicorn]

So, for christmas I got a secondhand Moto X (2013) from a site. It's a dev or press edition of the Moto X and when I plugged it into to charge it popped up that it has an unlocked bootloader.

I'm on Verizon and unlocked my Galaxy S3 a year or so ago, but I'm so rusty on the whole shebang, I'm curious where to go from here.

I haven't fully booted the phone yet to transfer/activate yet, but is there anything I need to do beforehand? What's the custom booting "scene" look like now. Should I bother, or is (what I hope is) stock Moto X experience good enough?

 

[NotBacon]

How long are you fingers? I have short fingers. I like being able to wrap my fingers all the way around the phone and still being able to reach every point of the screen with my thumb so that I'm actually holding it and it's not just resting in my hand, which I could do on the S3 but cannot on the Turbo. I can manage on it but anything bigger would just be too unwieldy and I'd be worried about dropping it. Plus I only have limited space in my pockets...

Yeah I don't grip, I kinda rest it and use my pinky underneath.
I have a Bear Motion case (think OPO sandstone feel), and the N6 has the trademark Moto dimple that kinda locks it into your hand, so resting is fine for me.