Agree. I really prefer capacitive buttons too. You don't get your full 5 inches with on screen buttons.
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Agree. I really prefer capacitive buttons too. You don't get your full 5 inches with on screen buttons.
Why are you using desktop GAF on mobile?Firefox for Android is rubbish.
Why the hell does it do that? why can't all the text be the same size? Also, pin-zoom or bust.
Unknown Soldier
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That might get me to switch from Chrome.
The Faceless Master
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or both.
I like them, feel more responsive to me than hw buttons. I don't know why. I disliked them when i bought my xperia T, but once i got used to them, now nexus5, can't go back. Plus they disappear when needed, and when present, like when browsing, they aren't an issue at all.
However one plus one solution is the best of both worlds.
brotkasten
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A product and name inspired by the Android community. I like it.
You can just use Opera, its Chrome with a better bookmark system.
tried flashing factory image? look for it on xda.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Just did it. It works. Baller, thanks. I think franco kernel is the culprit, but that's weird because the kernel is still the same as it was last week. No issues until I woke up this morning. Huh.
I'm still going to RMA the phone.
shinshoryuken
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But they aren't more responsive and they don't dissappear when needed, it only sometime disappear when viewing videos...
Seriously there's no advantage having on screen buttons...
hgarrett54
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So I just checked my GS5's battery graph and it shows that the stock dialer app "Phone" used up 35% of my battery! I never saw anything like this on any of my previous android phones. Does anyone know what could be causing this?
Edit: I haven't made a single call yet too :\
Edit: I haven't made a single call yet too :\
Jazzy Network
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Android purist bro.
It is subjective, probably, but i also use daily a Samsung galaxy note 8, an s4+, and an optimus G. My experience is better with my nexus5. And they disappear for full screen content like pics and videos or reading books. Elsewhere ain't an issue at all unless losing a line of text in a web page is an issue.
Plus unless screen is fucked, they are more reliable than hw ones. And can be changed or modified by software,, like lg that allow different layouts.
I also find them easier to reach since they are slightly above the bezel.
But as i said, one plus one is the way to go, capacitive buttons with the option to disable them and use on screen ones.
ComputerMKII
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Why does it take so long of CyanogenMod to come up with Android Kit Kat? It's been six months since it came out and CM 11 still isn't out
Well, you aren't really meant to wait for a stable version. Just use the monthlies.
I've been running nightlies of CM11 on both my Nexus 10 and Galaxy Note 2, and they've been stable for the past few months of my using them.
I'm going to assume you meant when they're not needed... but yes, they do disappear when they're not needed. They get automatically hidden in video apps, reading apps, games, etc. It's great.
Another advantage is that when the screen is off, the front of the phone is completely black which looks awesome.
Owlowiscious
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Parents are getting interested in tablets and I don't know what to suggest to them between an ipad and an android device.
Right now with android I can see the advantage of price and possibly a storage card slot. Any suggestions on tablets cheaper than $330 that I can compare and make my choice on?
Right now with android I can see the advantage of price and possibly a storage card slot. Any suggestions on tablets cheaper than $330 that I can compare and make my choice on?
Unknown Soldier
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Just tell them to get an iPad
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Just get an iPad.
shinshoryuken
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Its not great at all..I'm browsing GAF right now, the buttons are still there and wasting space....majority of the apps don't make them disappear and wasting space...so overral they are just wasting space while I'm using the device.
Um..the front of the phone looks awesome when its off? So? Am I suppose to stare and use my phone while its off?
BTW I just got a 2nd gen 32 gig nexus 7 for 160 sealed and brand new, is that a good deal?
Owlowiscious
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The android equivalent isn't cheaper? I thought the storage card slot would be a big advantage, and for my parents I think the only apple advantage is the status of it being an apple device.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
What do they need storage for? Android is cheaper but iPad is better for most. Easier to use.
Are your parents good with computers and such? or are they completely new to this whole thing? iPad is better suited in this case. They won't need that extra storage.
This was my experience observing my mom using a samsung tab and ipad. They will like the ipad better because it's more simple.
Also, don't get them something small, not ipad mini or nexus 7 and the like. Go full size. You can get brand new 4th gen ipad for 400 bucks now or even cheaper at times. Good choice.
Owlowiscious
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Ok I'll consider apple. Ya caught me, I'm paying for it, hence my hopes for a cheaper alternative~ Thank you everyone, for your advice.
Wait, why would you expect/want them to disappear in the browser? They disappear when it's logical for them to disappear (i.e., watching video, reading a book, playing a game). I don't see what the issue is here.
Not sure if serious. It looks cool. Not seeing how this is a bad thing...
Yeah, that's a very good deal.
Damn, where'd you get it?
shinshoryuken
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The thing is 5 inch screen is not really 5 inch then if it's only 5 inch during videos/picture and some apps. Most apps don't make the screen buttons dissappear like documents and pdf apps. When I got the Z2 I downloaded a dead pixel tester app, and the menu wouldnt go away.
Baroquemantic
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I think software buttons are superior. I can't stand hardware/capacitive buttons because they are always too far down on a device, and I can't customize nor add functionality to them like with software buttons. Plus idiots like Samsung put the back button on the wrong side.
Now I can maybe understand someone making a case against software buttons on the stock firmware that ships with most phones, but once you use a custom ROM, and see all the customization options available, it's easy to see why software buttons are better. Though I still think they're better even without running a custom ROM. The tiny amount of space they take up is a non-issue.
All this shit's subjective anyway though. I think hardware buttons are shit. Others love them. Opinions.
Now I can maybe understand someone making a case against software buttons on the stock firmware that ships with most phones, but once you use a custom ROM, and see all the customization options available, it's easy to see why software buttons are better. Though I still think they're better even without running a custom ROM. The tiny amount of space they take up is a non-issue.
All this shit's subjective anyway though. I think hardware buttons are shit. Others love them. Opinions.
The Faceless Master
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#1 thing to do in a browser is read web pages. wasted space is wasted space.
they shouldn't have any issues with Android tablets really. what phones do they have?
yeah, can't customize hardware buttons in custom roms... oh wait...
Those are poorly designed apps then. From my experience most apps do hide the buttons when appropriate. It's never been an issue for me. As for the screen size, you're losing 48px to the nav bar. Is it really that big of a deal?
Come on, you don't seriously think this is valid logic, do you? So all apps should just run in fullscreen at all times?
The Faceless Master
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that's how things work on my phone. #TeamHardButt
feel free to make concessions on an inadequate device.
shinshoryuken
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Um...all app do run full screen when a device doesn't have on screen buttons.
Majority the top popular apps on playstore doesn't make the on screen button dissappear...so that's wasted space
Not quite. On the Nexus 5 the navigation bar takes up 155520 pixels.
But honestly the extra portrait height isn't that important for most uses. With CM I can force immersive mode at any time so it's never really a problem. I do wish manufacturers would take the opportunity to reduce bottom bezel though.
Software keys solve one very important thing: one (three, rather) less thing that can break. It's better for manufacturers because they don't have to make inane parts and bits and it's way better for consumers because they won't have to spend money and time on sending their device in because the menu button broke/gave up.
It's not only better for usability, but also economically.
Therefore #teamsoftbutt until the day I die.
It's not only better for usability, but also economically.
Therefore #teamsoftbutt until the day I die.
Unknown Soldier
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Samsung puts the back button on the right because that's where it was on Gingerbread and before. Google moved the back button to the left after Ice Cream Sandwich removed the hard menu button. Samsung is simply doing it the way it used to be, but people who actually used Android before ICS know that Samsung aren't idiots.
Not quite. The height of the nav bar on the Nexus 5 is 72px due to the way Android scales. The screen is 1080px wide.
72 * 1080 = 77,760 pixels used by the nav bar.
The Nexus 5 has 2,073,600 total pixels (1080 * 1920).
77,760 / 2,073,600 = 3.75% of the screen is used by the nav bar
Well you either "waste" screen real estate or you "waste" space below the screen. Either way you need to put the buttons somewhere.
ComputerMKII
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http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
Well, that pretty much answers my question.
Baroquemantic
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Not even close to the same extent as with software buttons. The little you can do is usually not worthwhile. I'd even guess most ROMs don't even include much, if any hardware button customization.
I've used Android since Gingerbread. Thought the back button on the right side was stupid back then as well. Google and everyone else corrected a wrong. Samsung still chooses to live in the past. The way it used to be is not always the best, nor the way it should and needs to be.
hgarrett54
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The way I see it is that since most people use their phone with their right hand, having the back button on the right would make it easier to reach when using the phone with one hand.
With software buttons you can let the user decide, like LG does.
You should have downloaded my pixel checker app and then the nav bar would have been hidden!
hgarrett54
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True. But stock android doesn't let you do that :\
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