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Android |OT5| The Sonic Cycle

Not sure if this was posted but some confirmation that OnePlus is releasing 2 phones this year. From Bloomberg who visited their HQ:

The report states that OnePlus will launch two phones in 2015. The OnePlus Two is set to launch in the third quarter, while a another cheaper model will follow later this year. What started as a company with just 6 employees has now ballooned to over 1,000 employees. Hopefully the extra employees will ensure a smoother rollout for this year. OnePlus can not have a repeat of what happened with the OnePlus One.
Also (probably) confirms to me that the main model will in fact be more premium in quality and price though it will probably still be cheaper than most phones.
 

NotBacon

Member
Stock Android to me isn't worth giving up the battery and camera.

You can have all that, but the Nexus 6 is just too big for some, and that's fine. Hopefully they cater to more people with the next one.


And not sure why you're clinging on to this, but i'll bite because I'm bored:

It was pretty obvious Moto X 2014 was shaping up to be phone of the year, a larger more premium Moto X 2013, with an S801, and a focus on battery and camera (literally what Moto claimed).
Fuck yes. People got excited, I got excited, just like anybody for any phone release, and for good reason.

Fast forward to release and Moto fucked up big time. Nobody was expecting that. Oh well, everybody has moved on now.

WRT Project Volta, same thing. Just less of a fuck up and more of not really what we were expecting. They knocked it out of the park with Lolly so there was good reason to believe Volta would deliver more than we received.
 

Toki767

Member
You can have all that, but the Nexus 6 is just too big for some, and that's fine. Hopefully they cater to more people with the next one.


And not sure why you're clinging on to this, but i'll bite because I'm bored:

It was pretty obvious Moto X 2014 was shaping up to be phone of the year, a larger more premium Moto X 2013, with an S801, and a focus on battery and camera (literally what Moto claimed).
Fuck yes. People got excited, I got excited, just like anybody for any phone release, and for good reason.

Fast forward to release and Moto fucked up big time. Nobody was expecting that. Oh well, everybody has moved on now.

WRT Project Volta, same thing. Just less of a fuck up and more of not really what we were expecting. They knocked it out of the park with Lolly so there was good reason to believe Volta would deliver more than we received.

Most of us expected that. :p
 
it was Note very hard to pick a winner last year.
Touchwiz and big though. One of the best for sure but the market is too versitale to pick the best for 14. 15 looks like a home run for sammy.

Oh and regarding Volta, whatever it is, it is doing the exact opposite on my Z3. It had better juice optimisations (thanks to sony and def. not google) with kitkat for sure.
 
Why do people not understand that a large part of project volta was new code to do more efficient scheduling of background processes for DEVELOPERS?

We are not going to see all of the improvements immediately.
 

Saiyan-Rox

Member
stock NEEDS multiwindow and S Beam. yesteryear. seriously.



their odd numbered notes haven't been as good as the evens

Tbh the main thing stock needs is the pull down from the right/left function from pretty much every custom ROM built, its surprising Google haven't made this change yet. Maybe they don't want to be seen as copying other people idk but it should be in there.

with the N6 a feature for the keyboard to minimize to one side of the screen would be good too but I doubt that'll happen anytime soon.

Overall I like stock more than any other skinned Android but if I had to pick a skin from all of them I'd go for HTC's if i'm honest.
 
My girlfriend has a new s6 and just sent me word that she is losing 70% of the battery charge in less than 5 hours. I'm in another state right now and can't look at the phone in person. Any good ideas as to what might be causing such severe battery drain?
 

Toki767

Member
Do you work for Moto? How did you know they were going to stuff a tiny-ass battery in there and barely improve the camera?

Motorola is basically like HTC in that they don't tend to make vast improvements on certain things within a year. It's been that way for a while.
 
My girlfriend has a new s6 and just sent me word that she is losing 70% of the battery charge in less than 5 hours. I'm in another state right now and can't look at the phone in person. Any good ideas as to what might be causing such severe battery drain?

Have her check the battery setting to see what's draining it?

edit: I have 2h 14m SOT with 51% left.
 
stock NEEDS multiwindow and S Beam. yesteryear. seriously.

Even if Googy were to add them to stock, they would be half-assed and more complicated for no reason like their implementations of notification shade controls and lockscreen widgets. I still think stock is just a playground for Googy to experiment with features and they figure 99% of Android owners will never see stock anyways so they just do whatever they want. Actual daily usability for stock isn't even a concern to them.

their odd numbered notes haven't been as good as the evens

This year though it's going to be 64-bit Exynos 7420, the new TW as seen in S6, and (possibly) a 4K screen. I think it's the first legitimately significant new under-the-hood tech improvements since the Note II. Plus going back to Exynos means Dat Wolfson DAC, first North American Note since Note II to have it instead of Qualcomm. The S6 seems to be really good, I expect Note 5 to be amazing. I've waited 3 years now, this isn't a skip year for me.
 

NotBacon

Member
Motorola is basically like HTC in that they don't tend to make vast improvements on certain things within a year. It's been that way for a while.

They're disappointing but not HTC levels of disappointing lol.

Yeah I don't know how I feel anymore. They're still awesome for their phone designs and software, but after the Moto Fuckup 2014 I lost a lot of faith in them. But then most of it was restored with the N6...
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's in store for this year.
 
Motorola has good ideas but they never go ALL THE WAY with a device. The current one is the best example considering you need to go Moto Maxx/Turbo to get a good battery.

I'm hoping this year is different because it was literally the one criticism on every single damn review. The battery. There's no way they straight up don't address it. I refuse to believe it! I don't expect a 3900mah battery like the moto maxx but a 3000mah with the same 5.2 inch screen or slightly smaller would be GG.
 
Have her check the battery setting to see what's draining it?

edit: I have 2h 14m SOT with 51% left.

Here ya go. I've always been an IOS guy (my S6 arrived tomorrow) so I am at a bit of a loss

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Even if Googy were to add them to stock, they would be half-assed and more complicated for no reason like their implementations of notification shade controls and lockscreen widgets. I still think stock is just a playground for Googy to experiment with features and they figure 99% of Android owners will never see stock anyways so they just do whatever they want. Actual daily usability for stock isn't even a concern to them.
How exactly is one extra tap (or swipe down) to get to quick settings half-assed? Sure it's an extra step compared to OEM quick settings implementations, but hardly a bad implementation. Besides, it's a tradeoff. You either have a chunk of your notification shade taken up by quick toggles (OEMs) or you have the full thing available for notifications. Lock screen widgets wasn't more complicated either. Most OEMs did it the same way as stock.

On multi window, the leak Android Police had last year showed how Google implemented it. Nothing looked half assed or complicated there either. Of course, the feature isn't finished yet, so you could be right if/when it gets released, but I doubt it.

Edit: Wait, you're right. I forgot about how Google did quick toggles before. Where a tap would open up the settings instead of performing an action, and long press performed an action, but only for a couple of toggles. Thankfully it's not like that anymore.

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Motorola has good ideas but they never go ALL THE WAY with a device. The current one is the best example considering you need to go Moto Maxx/Turbo to get a good battery.

I'm hoping this year is different because it was literally the one criticism on every single damn review. The battery. There's no way they straight up don't address it. I refuse to believe it! I don't expect a 3900mah battery like the moto maxx but a 3000mah with the same 5.2 inch screen or slightly smaller would be GG.
The bolded sums up Motorola perfectly. I'm hoping they can deliver with the X this year. I don't care about the camera, but I need good battery life. And at least 32GB of storage. 16GB I'd not enough anymore.
 
This year though it's going to be 64-bit Exynos 7420, the new TW as seen in S6, and (possibly) a 4K screen. I think it's the first legitimately significant new under-the-hood tech improvements since the Note II. Plus going back to Exynos means Dat Wolfson DAC, first North American Note since Note II to have it instead of Qualcomm. The S6 seems to be really good, I expect Note 5 to be amazing. I've waited 3 years now, this isn't a skip year for me.
I don't care what people say, a 4K screen on a phone is completely overkill right now (at least until we get a battery tech revolution). Even with a 14mn Exynos chip, I'm betting the note 5 will still end up having lower battery life than its predessesor.
 
I don't care what people say, a 4K screen on a phone is completely overkill right now (at least until we get a battery tech revolution). Even with a 14mn Exynos chip, I'm betting the note 5 will still end up having lower battery life than its predessesor.

if the battery is the same size and their phone design keeps strong signals, unlike the weak antenna design of the GS6, they should have the same or better battery life.
 

Cheebo

Banned
Every teen I encounter in my and my wifes family use Facetime and iMessage 24/7 with their friends.

If you are teen and not using those you are basically completely removed from modern social networking in the US in that age group.
 

MercuryLS

Banned
Every teen I encounter in my and my wifes family use Facetime and iMessage 24/7 with their friends.

If you are teen and not using those you are basically completely removed from modern social networking in the US in that age group.

Pretty much, used to be all about BBM for teens. Now iMessage took over.
 

Cheebo

Banned
Even at my work all the directors and up seem to be using iphones for the most part and a lot of them like to communicate through imessage.
Biggest thing was it was integrated in the text app from get go. Automatically picks iMessage over SMS when texting a iPhone. You don't have to pick to do anything, it is automatic.

That was the key to the lock-in there.

Never got why Google didn't do that for Android. Automatically switching to hangouts when texting someone with a google account regardless if you selected the person by phone number rather than email ala iMessage. Seems like a no brainier.
 
Biggest thing was it was integrated in the text app from get go. Automatically picks iMessage over SMS when texting a iPhone. You don't have to pick to do anything, it is automatic.

That was the key to the lock-in there.

Never got why Google didn't do that for Android. Automatically switching to hangouts when texting someone with a google account regardless if you selected the person by phone number rather than email ala iMessage. Seems like a no brainier.
I don't understand why google doesn't ____________________ is a consistent theme. Love em and hate em sometimes. In b4 people complain about the iphone doing that.
 
Biggest thing was it was integrated in the text app from get go. Automatically picks iMessage over SMS when texting a iPhone. You don't have to pick to do anything, it is automatic.

That was the key to the lock-in there.

Never got why Google didn't do that for Android. Automatically switching to hangouts when texting someone with a google account regardless if you selected the person by phone number rather than email ala iMessage. Seems like a no brainier.

Its completely different and the implementation would be much more complex. Many people use hangouts that do not use android devices very often.

If you use iMessage you are most likely using an iPhone so there is no issue prioritizing iMessages over text messages.


On another subject otas are rolling out for the 2013 n7 wifi as well. All eyes are on you nexus 9.
 
That bad? Been waiting for the OTA to show up for me for a while now :/

I'm just not a fan of a bunch of the changes they made in lollipop. The biggest being notifications are horrible in it and now you don't even get the led light to let you know you have one. Music controls from the lock screen are also fucked and so is volume control. I don't see any noticeable improvements in system speed or in gaming or running apps(benchmarks are actually coming in lower compared to 11S) and now they just have additional animations to try and make it look pretty. Network signal is much worse and I'm getting weaker signals and not holding signal as much compared to the previous update. I'm going to have to flash the previous ROM and do a clean install to get rid of this.
 
I'm just not a fan of a bunch of the changes they made in lollipop. The biggest being notifications are horrible in it and now you don't even get the led light to let you know you have one. Music controls from the lock screen are also fucked and so is volume control. I don't see any noticeable improvements in system speed or in gaming or running apps(benchmarks are actually coming in lower compared to 11S) and now they just have additional animations to try and make it look pretty. Network signal is much worse and I'm getting weaker signals and not holding signal as much compared to the previous update. I'm going to have to flash the previous ROM and do a clean install to get rid of this.
Wow... yeah reading about this and the bugs over on the OP forums... I'll wait. At least then I can finish TWEWY and not worry about it breaking in Lollipop.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Took Hearthstone to drop on phones for BoyAJ to realize his N10 indeed sucks.

To quote BoyAJ
I've only been trying to tell him that for fucking forever now. SMH
It's still a great device that keeps on trucking. N7 users only just got 5.1. I've been had it. Also, it's the only Nexus tablet out there. Not a big phone like the N7.
 
Lollipop battery interface is terrible if you want to figure out what exactly is draining the battery. Battery montiors dont help either.

Its basically, when you have drain

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mrklaw

MrArseFace
AT&T next or two year contract for the S6? What's the better option?

just do the maths based on how soon you plan to upgrade.

Bear in mind that NEXT 24 requires you to pay 30 installments before you can keep the phone. You can only upgrade by handing the phone back after 24, so you don't keep it and can't sell it on to help cover costs. If you want to upgrade after eg 12 months you'd still need to hand the phone back and pay the balance of monthly payments up to 24 months.
 

kmfdmpig

Member
Yesterday, for the first time, I had strange gradiated grey bars pop up on my home screen at the top and bottom (they go all the way across from left to right) of the screen.

At first I worried it was a hardware issue, but it appears not to be as they go away when I try to add a widget or when I open an app or look at my app drawer.

Next I thought it was just a Nova Launcher setting that went haywire, but I've been through all of those and don't see what it could be. Also, the same thing happens in Touchwiz.

Changing the wallpaper does not fix it, although I can see it starts true black and then quickly adds the weird gradiation of gray at the top. Online there's nothing I can find about it although some say it's a photo effect filter or something.

It appears to only happen (or at least is only visible) with black backgrounds.

Any thoughts. It's not a huge problem as it doesn't happen in app, but it's annoying and something I'd like to fix if possible.

The device is a Galaxy Tab S 10.5. It recently updated to Lollipop (it did not start doing that for a week or so after the update).
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
I'm just not a fan of a bunch of the changes they made in lollipop. The biggest being notifications are horrible in it and now you don't even get the led light to let you know you have one. Music controls from the lock screen are also fucked and so is volume control. I don't see any noticeable improvements in system speed or in gaming or running apps(benchmarks are actually coming in lower compared to 11S) and now they just have additional animations to try and make it look pretty. Network signal is much worse and I'm getting weaker signals and not holding signal as much compared to the previous update. I'm going to have to flash the previous ROM and do a clean install to get rid of this.

I don't know who at Google thought that un-hidable notification banners that cover a good part of the top of your screen was a good idea. If you swipe it then it deletes, it's quite possibly the stupidest thing Google has done with Android so far. The old way of showing notifications was so much better.
 

Mindwipe

Member
stock NEEDS multiwindow and S Beam. yesteryear. seriously.

The weird thing is stock has wifi direct and bluetooth. It just needs a UI writing. It's like the easiest thing in the world. The bluetooth team on Android does not have a good record.

I don't know who at Google thought that un-hidable notification banners that cover a good part of the top of your screen was a good idea. If you swipe it then it deletes, it's quite possibly the stupidest thing Google has done with Android so far. The old way of showing notifications was so much better.

Yup. I still have no idea how heads up notifications went through a public beta process and still shipped as is. They're terrible.
 
Updated to 5.0.2 seems fast. Haven't seen the dreaded memory leak issue so far. First downside, Vanilla Browser has stopped working. Had to switch back to Chrome. Any recommendations for a non-root AOSP based browser?
 

Groof

Junior Member
I don't know who at Google thought that un-hidable notification banners that cover a good part of the top of your screen was a good idea. If you swipe it then it deletes, it's quite possibly the stupidest thing Google has done with Android so far. The old way of showing notifications was so much better.
While I agree, in 5.1 they added the ability of swiping up on it to dismiss it but keep the notification. Still a poor implementation but it's somewhat better now
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Updated to 5.0.2 seems fast. Haven't seen the dreaded memory leak issue so far. First downside, Vanilla Browser has stopped working. Had to switch back to Chrome. Any recommendations for a non-root AOSP based browser?

Just use chrome. You'll learn to love after hating so long.
 
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