Ant-Man |Spoiler Thread| I Think Our First Move Should Be Calling The Avengers

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Dryk said:
I thought it (the classic body) worked pretty well in his last scene
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Yeah even in a smaller frame it was much more intimidating than the highly-emotive Ultron face.

I didn't hate the human-like face, but I wanted his "ultimate" form to be the classic gaping maw. He had given up on humanity at that point, made little sense for him to still want a human face.
 
Fun movie, fight scenes could have been better. They seriously need to stop killing off the villians. Can't any of them just survive.
 
Pai Pai Master said:
Yeah even in a smaller frame it was much more intimidating than the highly-emotive Ultron face.

I didn't hate the human-like face, but I wanted his "ultimate" form to be the classic gaping maw. He had given up on humanity at that point, made little sense for him to still want a human face.
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I'm still so sad that they had tons of gaping maw designs and they decided to go with the emotive face all the way through the movie.
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Just got back from this. While it continues Marvel's trend of forgettable cookie cutter villains, I absolutely loved the action sequences. The final fight was the highlight of the film for me, and I usually switch off during Marvel fight sequences. Great movie.
 
MrBadger said:
Just got back from this. While it continues Marvel's trend of forgettable cookie cutter villains, I absolutely loved the action sequences. The final fight was the highlight of the film for me, and I usually switch off during Marvel fight sequences. Great movie.
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I don't understand why Marvel is knocking off every villain they have. At this rate, we will have C list characters (such as the Wrecking Crew) filling the ranks.
 
ReplacementPelican said:
I was worried at first because the dialogue at the beginning was so clunky as was the exposition, it just seemed like awful writing. After that though it really did pick up, whilst I think it wasn't as funny as Guardians I definitely think the tone of the film was more that of a comedy film than Guardians.

The audience I was with were great and there were some huge laughs at scenes like the 'back it up' and the Thomas crash (which I had ruined for me by the trailers) so the atmosphere was great. The shrinking stuff was brilliantly done and the microverse was a lot of fun, I loved the 2001 homage when he was initially shrinking, it looked phenomenal.

This film is really suffering from people saying it's stupid without seeing it though. I've mentioned that I saw it several times and either get 'I've heard it's really good' or 'it looks stupid' so the word of mouth is great but people chatting utter bollocks without seeing it could be it's undoing. I was also surprised with the amount of very young children in the theater given the tone the films have taken, I do wonder if many parents were shocked by the bad language and the very grotesque deaths. I did also wonder this for the 'fuck off' in DOFP but who knows. The audiences for the Marvel films that I've seen sans Age of Ultron have all been mostly late teens and twenties but I think the juvenile name of Ant-Man has given it a perception that it doesn't necessarily bear out.

Anyway, in the grand Marvel scheme I will give my placement:

Great:
Guardians of the Galaxy
The Winter Soldier
Avengers
Iron Man

Good:
Ant-Man
Age of Ultron
Iron Man 3

Okay:
Thor
Captain America
The Dark World

Meh:
Iron Man 2
The Incredible Hulk

Although even the 'meh' films I will occasionally watch and enjoy, like I really enjoy the senate scene from Iron Man 2.
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I saw it today and I agree with most of what you said. There was a lot of humor, it generally was in the vein of the Disney Marvel stuff we've gotten- lighthearted moments, with a few poignant moments. Overall it was a good movie. Better than the Avengers: Age of Ultron, which was a massive, sloppy blockbuster which emphasized two dull "heroes" that no one cares about.

Also, I put Hulk (2003) in the "good" tier, maybe even "great" if you disregard the ending.
 
Blues1990 said:
I don't understand why Marvel is knocking off every villain they have. At this rate, we will have C list characters (such as the Wrecking Crew) filling the ranks.
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I'm betting that Feige doesn't have anything concrete planned after Infinity Wars. He knows it all falls down after that which I also believe why that particular plot was chosen as the Avenger's "last outing". He's smart enough to know of franchise fatigue and diminishing returns, so he planned to just blow up the fans' minds with the best and most epic stories. The whole exploring other genres is just a stop gap until we reach Infinity.
 
Saw it last week and it was fun.

A bit predictable, but a great Marvel movie with great action and other Marvel universe tie-ins. For me its up there with Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, The Avengers and the first Iron Man.
 
Saw it yesterday.

It definitely is one of the better Marvel films. Going for a heist angle instead of the usual bombastic spectacle paid off with dividends. It felt fresh and funnier than any other MCU flick, but I feel like many jokes fell incredibly flat, which was detrimental to its luster.

The subatomic realm was definitely one of the coolest things I've recently seen at the movies, btw.
 
Pai Pai Master said:
Love it for Ross and Blomsky, otherwise its just kinda dull.
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I really like Norton in the role, because out of the three of them he sells the idea of Bruce as a wanderer living hand to mouth. Put him next to the other Avengers, and he looks like a little kid - which makes him becoming The Hulk willingly more of a 'HELL YEAH' concept: the weak man becoming pure rage.
 
It was a little irresponsible driving the tank off the building. How many innocents could they have manslaughtered doing that?

I really liked Luis. I hope he shows up in other Marvel movies for no reason. He could be the new Stan Lee.
 
I liked Luis a lot, but he was probably about one joke shy of being overdone. They nailed it in this movie, but any more and I think they'd really be forcing it.
 
Saw it over the weekend. Loved it. Right up there with gotg for me.

Gotg= scifi
Winter soldier = bond/mission impossible clone
Antman = heist theme

What's next for marvel? Rom-com? Horror? Marvel zombies would actually be pretty fun.
 
DeathyBoy said:
I really like Norton in the role, because out of the three of them he sells the idea of Bruce as a wanderer living hand to mouth. Put him next to the other Avengers, and he looks like a little kid - which makes him becoming The Hulk willingly more of a 'HELL YEAH' concept: the weak man becoming pure rage.
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Yeah Norton sold the "pathetic" banner really well. His situation is very different in the more recent movies but Ruffalo's banner kinda has his shit together until things go down in AoU.

Don't dislike Norton in TIH but his scenes with Tyler bore me to death
 
Paul Rudd is great, but I kept feeling like he was scripted as a poor man's Chris Pratt.

The movie feels oddly listless.
 
Apoc29 said:
It was a little irresponsible driving the tank off the building. How many innocents could they have manslaughtered doing that?

I really liked Luis. I hope he shows up in other Marvel movies for no reason. He could be the new Stan Lee.
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Ending a few potential lives for the sake of saving many. For the greater good. I agree with you on Luis. He's that necessary comic relief on the side. When he goes to lower the water pressure and tells the boss that "bossman" sent him in there, I about died.
 
Went to see Antman yesterday and loved it, but I have a question to ask. With how Scott escapes the quantum realm, does this open up the possibility of Giant man in the sequel? If so,that would be pretty awesome.
 
Just saw it yesterday, I really enjoyed it. Humour was great, and loved that final battle. The smaller scale of things, aka not having countless cannon fodder was really, really refreshing. Definitely better than Avengers 2.

Maybe it's because im biased towards paul rudd, but antman has now become one of my favourite MCU superheroes.
 
Apoc29 said:
It was a little irresponsible driving the tank off the building. How many innocents could they have manslaughtered doing that?

I really liked Luis. I hope he shows up in other Marvel movies for no reason. He could be the new Stan Lee.
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Lunar15 said:
I liked Luis a lot, but he was probably about one joke shy of being overdone. They nailed it in this movie, but any more and I think they'd really be forcing it.
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Michael Peña signed a multi-film contract with Marvel for three films according to this interview:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...pea-talks-stealing-scenes-marvel-films-future

I really want him in the MCU.
 
It's strange. I've seen a lot of criticism of Hope's role, and while I understand that on a meta level it sucks that she wasn't given more to do I thought that within the movie itself it was made pretty obvious right from the start that she's right and Hank's just being an overprotective, patronising dick about the whole thing.
 
In Ant Man 2, they should make one of these scenes were a Ant Man enters a body of a hero to cure a disease.

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Man, so many possiblitiys to use this powers in a cool way.
 
Dryk said:
It's strange. I've seen a lot of criticism of Hope's role, and while I understand that on a meta level it sucks that she wasn't given more to do I thought that within the movie itself it was made pretty obvious right from the start that she's right and Hank's just being an overprotective, patronising dick about the whole thing.
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I feel the same, but in the end he gives her the suit anyways. Maybe it would have changed the stakes and pacing of the final battle for the worse, but I wonder how the third act would have played out if Hank gave Hope the suit immediately after their reconciliation scene.
 
I haven't seen Age of Ultron, but Ultron is an easy villain to bring back, even if he's seemingly dead in that film. Yellowjacket wasn't necessarily dead, he may've just gotten sucked into the microverse. Someone can pull him out of there, somehow. Ronan is dead, most likely, but who cares? Loki is still floating around. Red Skull can come back. Which meaningful villains have they absolutely killed without wiggle room?
 
Christian said:
I haven't seen Age of Ultron, but Ultron is an easy villain to bring back, even if he's seemingly dead in that film. Yellowjacket wasn't necessarily dead, he may've just gotten sucked into the microverse. Someone can pull him out of there, somehow. Ronan is dead, most likely, but who cares? Loki is still floating around. Red Skull can come back. Which meaningful villains have they absolutely killed without wiggle room?
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Yellowjacket should come back crazy as shit.
 
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