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Ar nosurge |OT| Class__EXPAJA;
- Thread starter kiryogi
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You're acting like the naughty hasn't been there all along. Go back to classics like Lunar or Phantasy Star 4 which had just as much sexual innuendos thrown around then as today does, the only difference was they weren't quite as upfront about it in the marketing.
Even Dragon quest, the grand daddy of Jrpgs has the infamous puff puff.
I would have to disagree, it has become much more of a "go to" for many low budget RPGs, same for anime for that matter. (beach episodes etc... "What is this shit it has nothing to do with the plot")
Well thing is, that was often text or hinted at, this series is upfront with visuals to illustrate it clearly. There's things I will and won't defend that they do. Anything that occurs internally (Genometrics/Cosmosphere), for example, I'm OK with.
As Jinko mentions, there's some stuff that occurs during the main storyline that is unnecessary and also more likely market pandering. Which I don't think was all in Tsuchiya's intentions, could be the Banpresto half of things after all I've read in developer diaries.
The typical beach episode is crucial to any and all anime, if only for that critical "plot" development.
And by "plot", I mean:
Here's an example of the transition into RPG or bigger market even from their life sim.
Renall in Ciel nosurge and Ar nosurge respectively:
Zill
TBH, the most surprising thing to me was there was a severe lack of fanservice, at least in the main scenario portion of Ciel. Given the life sim parts, there's stuff like dates and dressing up whatnot, but it's nowhere as pervy. It doesn't make any sense why they're so properly clothed formerly, unless society really changed inbetween the two somehow. But even then.
Renall in Ciel nosurge and Ar nosurge respectively:
Zill
TBH, the most surprising thing to me was there was a severe lack of fanservice, at least in the main scenario portion of Ciel. Given the life sim parts, there's stuff like dates and dressing up whatnot, but it's nowhere as pervy. It doesn't make any sense why they're so properly clothed formerly, unless society really changed inbetween the two somehow. But even then.
It's a mix of both, most of the time it is filler pandering. But it does at times serve to further character development.
distantmantra
Member
The innuendo/fanservicey moments in DQ or PS or even more recent titles like Tales, Atelier and Sen no Kiseki don't feel anywhere close to the pandering like some other modern titles.
Maybe I'm crazy and blocking it out or maybe as I've gotten older (ie. my 30s) my tastes have changed and even though I still want to play JRPGs I'm no longer the target demographic. Who knows.
I think the comparison between outfits in Ciel and Ar is a great example.
Actually I totally forgot, Lunar did get pretty pandering. Hot springs and bromides XD Puff wasn't so bad until it finally hit 3D, in which case we got treated to well endowed bunny girls giving us ze puff puff. I think the worst of the list tho is Tales, Tales definitely panders on some levels, be it with outfits or the hot spring scenes.
distantmantra
Member
And seeing how I've purchased the game, I'm willing to give it a chance.
I only hope you read up on Ciel D:
I don't have time to read that!
What other modern titles are you talking about that actually get localized on counsel that are so pandering? Hyperdimension Neptunia?
Honestly I'd say most rpgs these days are fairly tame, what's the worst pandering you'll see in Tales games for example? Optional fanservice bathing suit costume you'd have to pay extra for. Pretty easy to ignore since you have to really go out of your way to acquire them.
I don't know what to tell you friend, I'm turning 30 myself this year and I don't see much of a difference between the Ciel and Ar outfits. I'm certainly not having a hard time finding Jprgs to play, quite the opposite actually since I can't afford them all anymore and am starting to fall behind on releases.
That said I wouldn't depend on consoles alone these days for my Jrpg fix. If anything I game more on my handhelds since that's where a lot of these type of games are being made now.
I think if I made a topic about this on the forum with those comparison images, many folks could see the difference. There's a clear showing of more skin in the Ar outfits. Even I admit to that, it's just really jarring coming from Ciel and demonstrates how they need to market it more due to the genre transition.
Sure it's a bit more skin, but the outfits are still fairly tasteful and nowhere near offensive. Not sure what the problem is, as it's not really enough to qualify as fanservicy.
At worst Renall looks like she switched from a fall/winter setup to a something more suited for spring/summer when it's warmer out.
No idea, there's some reports of folks having gotten their LEs though. Maybe it is due to the fact it's a KT release?
Any chance you'll be doing an unboxing video for us once you get your copy in Kiryogi?
lol, I've never ever done an unboxing video, but I can provide pictures and compare contrast to the JP LE. XD
D: Checked my email, still nothing!
Freezasaurus
Member
I pre-ordered my copy from Gamestop. They usually don't carry obscure JRPGs unless someone actually puts down a reserve.
I'm sort of wishing I did preorder a copy from them now, being how I need a 2nd copy anyway. . . Probably too late now.
Freezasaurus
Member
It's worth checking anyway. Sometimes they'll get one or two copies just because it's new.
Looks like they are still taking preorders on their website if you still want to go that route
http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/games/ar-nosurge-ode-to-an-unborn-star/115774
I'm kind of glad Fairy Fencer got bumped up by a week, I know it's not much but too niece rpgs going up against each other on the same day would have been a blood bath
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Should be getting my copy tomorrow. Hopefully it lives up to kiryogi's hype!
Mission complete.
I will not be held responsible if you didn't read it up on Ciel XD
It's funny you mention that, I actually just got the last piece of JP DLC and finished it last night.
It's pretty neat. But I'll list off what's available. SO if you preorder with GameStop you get:
Dynamic Custom theme for PS3
Kanon and Nay Purification scenes
Ability to remove glasses on Sarly
The Kanon and Nay DLC will be available later and adds extra character development, so it's nice.
Sarly never available separately in JP I think.
The last piece of DLC adds new genometrics for both Ion and Casty that when completed will give you new songs to use with them.
Here's what you get for one of them, so hilarious. (Note Sirotaka is a MAJOR otaku)
http://youtu.be/8xeyzncohFU?t=8m32s
So, it's pretty neat DLC overall minus the comestic stuff on Sarly.
Community Forum
Member
Amazon copy shipped.
By this time tomorrow night, I will be totally lost, it sounds like in more ways than one.
By this time tomorrow night, I will be totally lost, it sounds like in more ways than one.
Customer Message Your order is currently being processed in our warehouse.
D: Well if my Gamestop does have enough copies for me, I'll at least have the regular to play around tomorrow morning. XD
Not bad, good to see that they didn't go too crazy with the dlc for this.
Just how many copies of this game are you planning on getting anyhow? 0_o Maybe it's time your tag got updated to "EXA_PICO's Bard" or something
Just how many copies of this game are you planning on getting anyhow? 0_o Maybe it's time your tag got updated to "EXA_PICO's Bard" or something
Just 2! The LE and a regular to giveaway. Honestly if I could afford it, I'd give out more copies.
And that'd be a lovely tag but, this tag I have has a special meaning.
Freezasaurus
Member
I don't know if Jeremy would appreciate you plastering his employee # on the internets.
Haha fixed, that was uploaded prior while on the go. Had no means to edit it then D:
Freezasaurus
Member
I was kidding, I just thought it was amusing.
Heh I know what you mean. I've tried to get the word out on some niece series several times in my day and it's never easy getting people to listen even if you hand out flyers about them at places like Fan Expo or Anime north. But it's worth it in the long run just to have more people to talk about these things with.
At one point back when they where ignoring the series I was even considering buying shares in Namco just so that I could force them to localize more Tales games but realized that even my entire life savings wouldn't be enough to make a real dent so I stuck to more grass roots stuff like Project Rainfall.
New interview with Tsuchiya on Ar nosurge!
http://www.otakustudy.com/video-gam...kira-tsuchiya-director-surge-concerto-series/
http://www.otakustudy.com/video-gam...kira-tsuchiya-director-surge-concerto-series/
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm really excited about the game getting released even if I still need to finish reading Ciel(which is really interesting so far), I wonder if I'll wait till I play Ar Tonelico or just forget about it and dive into Ar nosurge.