Barrowman should have his own show. I hate saying it but he's wasted in Arrow as it currently stands.
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Arrow Season 4 |OT| A Tale of Salt and Fire
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Barrowman should have his own show. I hate saying it but he's wasted in Arrow as it currently stands.
Short answer: No.
Long answer: No.
In the land of dreams and fairy tales: Takes a slot on Legends of Tomorrow
tounge-in-cheek answer: Go to Hell
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Don't you mean what Earth-2 Felicity is doing because she's such a strong and important character?
My head canon until proven otherwise is that he runs a Frogurt shop.
The Outsider
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I just figured they can pivot to making Malcolm the "big bad" for the second half of the season by having him kill whoever is in the grave, then Oliver kills him in retaliation.
Bonus points if he kills Felicity.
Man, don't get me started on that. I read the last 10 pages of this thread and I don't have the energy anymore.
Uno Venova
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Yeah a shameless shot of EBR in abra and lines meant to pander. Not much different from what we have now.
Discotheque
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Lmao this was the footnote in a terrible episode. That scene would be played for laughs in many other things. Felt like a YouTube edit cut as a joke
Barrowman has been carrying this show on his back for a while now tbh. Even though it often makes no sense that merlyn lives he's needed imo.
Jorok Goldblade
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Wouldn't be the first time we've seen Ollie talking to a ghost...
The Outsider
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Return of Punisher Ollie. I want it.
Come on if anyone's going to kill Malcolm it would have to be Thea. They gotta mine that tragedy for all it's worth.
The Outsider
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I'm okay with this too. Maybe it will magically cure her bloodlust too!
Nah it'll be Felicity who kills Malcom. The person in the grave is her relationship with Ollie, killed be Merlyn. She's the main character after all.
Edit: oh god this is upsetting me as much as The Flash stuff upset Zero
MHWilliams
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Wipe his soul and his memories. Merlyn gets a new lease on life and they can't kill a reform Malcolm, can they?
Discotheque
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They really need to fish around for somebody charismatic to bolster this supporting crew if he bites it then
As nonsensical as it is that merlyn yet lives he is now the only consistently entertaining thing about this show every episode. In its up swings and downs he never loses it
As nonsensical as it is that merlyn yet lives he is now the only consistently entertaining thing about this show every episode. In its up swings and downs he never loses it
Garrett 2U
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why that gif :,(
the_firewithin
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Lol oh you
Septimus Prime
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Oh, great. Then when he comes back from the dead, we'll never know how.
Not even close, I'm still too angry to even complain about.
Septimus Prime
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What if we get speed clones of Felicity?
Jorok Goldblade
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Given the makeup of the cast, Arrow needs someone who can actually write women in more than one dimension.
Team Filler
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Sorry for the late reply, busy day at work! Felicity is a hypocrite because in the very previous episode she admonished her mother breaking up with Chesthair for doing the same as Olliver and keeping a secret under distressing circumstances. So Felicity is all fine with lies and secrets as long as she's in on it?
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I think there can be a pretty big difference between a lie "to keep you safe" and a lie of "you're basically the last person to know for no great reason."
Beyond that, Felicity knew the truth behind Lance's lie, a perspective she used to help her mother. Felicity knowing the truth behind Oliver's lie doesn't really help her in the moment (though I imagine it will help her get over it when they eventually get back together). She's just in the dark, especially at that moment, again, for no reason that makes sense to her.
And beyond that, it still really wouldn't make her a hypocrite. She doesn't hate all lying. She hates it, with good reason, in her relationship. She'd have to be keeping a secret from Oliver to be a hypocrite here.
Team Filler
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She even states to Oliver that she understands why he did it AND gets that Oliver was placed in an impossible situation. It seemed to make sense to her right before her ridiculous exit.
If the writers were to actually write Felicity as someone with actual character, with hang-ups/flaws that are acknowledged as such within the show, then I wouldn't mind the many shitty moments of Olicity drama (shit, I feel like I've been defending her as a character for a long time before now). The writers and showrunners have not done this (or if they tried then have failed spectacularly), which only makes moments like that last one look dumber than Laurel's canary cry.
I disagree in general with this sentiment. The advice she imparts to her own mother about the same scenario is to have a little faith in Lance and try to be understanding that he might have a good reason for not telling her the truth at the time. This is thinking that runs directly counter to her actions when faced with what is an extremely similar scenario between her and Oliver.
And here's the real kicker: even then I'd be somewhat okay with that, hell people are hypocritical all the time in life, nothing new there. But the show runners really dial up the shit by then making Oliver just sit there and take it. Like, what the hell happened to the character growth he had in Season 2 about deciding to stop letting himself be Laurel's excuse for her problems and stop letting himself take all the blame in these ridiculous contrivances?
Hydrogen Bluebird
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This soap opera BS shouldn't be the main source of drama in a superhero tv show.
Claude Augario
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"You need to stop carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders, Oliver."
"This is all your fault, Oliver!"
"This is all your fault, Oliver!"
Discotheque
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No that's perfectly fine. These writers aren't very good at it though and need to switch things up. It feels like a large portion of the plots are just based on a secret that will tear relationships apart, and then they lecture the person about how it was a mistake. And then another secret comes into play and repeat
I´m at the point that i wish they just kill Felicity off soon, so this show can maybe start becoming interesting again. After this last episode, she just completely (or the writers rather) threw away any shred of respect i had for the character. I mean...yeah let´s celebrate me walking again by walking out on Oliver, even though he had complete legitimate reasons to keep a secret.
The Silver
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Man I'm starting to miss the season 1(and 2) status quo. Ollie trying to juggle his normal life and being The Punisher, mama Queen and that english guy I can't remember but liked, everyone having their own characters arcs even if I lol'd hard at some of them(drugged out Thea) Roy's first flip, Tommy doing everything not to get cucked and failing, Felicity being a fun character, and the flashbacks weren't shit.
Everyone now just seems a lot more boring, they hang out in the cave, take orders from Ollie, fight random mooks, do it over again next episode.
I'm sure my opinion of season 1 is different than most since I very quickly binged it, if I had watched week to week the formulaic nature would've bothered me a lot more.
Everyone now just seems a lot more boring, they hang out in the cave, take orders from Ollie, fight random mooks, do it over again next episode.
I'm sure my opinion of season 1 is different than most since I very quickly binged it, if I had watched week to week the formulaic nature would've bothered me a lot more.
Why are people badmouthing Malcolm sama? He is the goat. Aside from that I still like the Theory that Malcolm is the one that kills the person in the grave.
I wondered why that counter stayed at 998.
You're giving me performance anxiety
Then the writers should make up their minds in that regard.
And everybody is mad they aren't the ones that got to kill him?
So my strategy is working. Perfect.
Team Filler
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That would certainly explain why Malcolm keeps cheating death.Malcolm is the one in the grave. At least most of him is.
When it transfers over into making the heroes looking stupid, it's an issue.
A villain to hate, fine. Keeping him around for 4 seasons despite that he's murdered friends and family members, for little reason, isn't. Malcolm is a fun character, but he brings down everyone else when they act stupid or indifferent to his atrocities.
It made sense a little bit at times with the various plot protections they gave him, like knowing certain things, or leading the League. At this point though they're letting him live or be free just so he can act spitefully toward them. Thea should not be reacting to him kidnapping a kid and nearly getting him killed with "I don't want to see you anymore." She should be reacting with, at the very least, locking his ass up.
Stallion Dan
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That is not how it works. There is no legal responsibility that falls onto her, married or not, she has to legally adopt the kid which would also require his mother give up legal responsibility.
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