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[ZeroX03]

Simple answer?

CoSA works on Gotham and Agents of Shield. But they don't work on The Flash and Arrow. Read how much visual effects work goes into a single episode of Gotham.

Longer answer?

The people who work in Gotham's art department have worked on major films like The Avengers, Ant Man, Shutter Island, Catch Me if You Can,

Some of the people who work on the visual effects for the show have worked on movies like Guardians of the Galaxy and Mad Max: Fury Road.

In defense of Flash, they've got a fucking gorilla. They have to be very judicious with where they use their visual effects and that usually means prioritizing fight scenes over environments.

But yes, budget and location means Gotham has access to a better pool of talent. Although AoS is no mark of quality.

 

[quesalupa]

Can Felicity please stay gone and get replaced by Mr. Terrific? Stupid flash forward ruining my dreams. Other than that, I really liked the episode and this season do far.

 

[IconGrist]

Can Felicity please stay gone and get replaced by Mr. Terrific?

I support this. He can even be the one constantly hitting on Oliver the way Felicity was in the beginning.

 

[BrokenFiction]

In defense of Flash, they've got a fucking gorilla. They have to be very judicious with where they use their visual effects and that usually means prioritizing fight scenes over environments.

But yes, budget and location means Gotham has access to a better pool of talent. Although AoS is no mark of quality.

And to be fair to Flash, it's the best of the CW three by far and away - the VFX look really good for the most part. I mean, they had a fucking shark! LoT is still rough to me, and Arrow just feels like it's shot on video (I'm being a bit mean here, but...)

 

[Oddduck]

In defense of Flash, they've got a fucking gorilla. They have to be very judicious with where they use their visual effects and that usually means prioritizing fight scenes over environments.

But yes, budget and location means Gotham has access to a better pool of talent. Although AoS is no mark of quality.

I actually think The Flash's visual effects are really impressive for a CW television show.

 

[ZeroX03]

And to be fair to Flash, it's the best of the CW three by far and away - the VFX look really good for the most part. I mean, they had a fucking shark! LoT is still rough to me, and Arrow just feels like it's shot on video (I'm being a bit mean here, but...)

Yes there has been quality drops on Arrow's production quality. It also has two years of budget cuts on the other shows, S3 is when they lost a lot of money.

I actually think The Flash's visual effects are really impressive for a CW television show.

That would be the talented, Emmy award winning folks at Encore Hollywood who have also worked on Gotham looking at their credits.

 

[jon bones]

zero you're making me nervous for Flash S3

that & the incoming hand of WB to whisk it all away from us...

 

[DeathyBoy]

Wow, I cannot agree with this at all. DD is very easy for me to see, whereas Arrow looks like a mess outside of the episode that James Bamford directed.

Parts of it are. Other parts... some of the outside fight scenes were a mess. Other parts were stunning, but it's a mixed bag. And when it's bad, it's really, really bad.

 

[BrokenFiction]

zero you're making me nervous for Flash S3

that & the incoming hand of WB to whisk it all away from us...[/QUOTE]

"WB, you need to back the fuck up."

Also, CW, you leave Flash alone!

 

[ZeroX03]

zero you're making me nervous for Flash S3

that & the incoming hand of WB to whisk it all away from us...

I mean, if it makes you less nervous, Arrow's Ra's al Ghul is an inspiration for Grodd, so we'll be going in that direction too!

 

[jon bones]

"WB, you need to back the fuck up."

Also, CW, you leave Flash alone!

it feels inevitable - when The Flash movie starts to come together, they're gonna mess with the show. no way they let Barry exist in 2 mediums 😰

I mean, if it makes you less nervous, Arrow's Ra's al Ghul is an inspiration for Grodd, so we'll be going in that direction too!

wait wait wait

what?

 

[ZeroX03]

wait wait wait

what?

It's not as gloomy as it sounds, basically they wanted to build up Grodd's profile over the first few seasons before pulling the trigger on him as a bigger threat. Ra's, the League and Nanda Parbat playing a smaller role in S1 and S2 of Arrow was the build up and inspiration.

Does that mean Team Flash will be visiting Gorilla City every second episode almost immediately even though it's currently a universe away? Probably.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

That was an abysmal episode. Absolutely terrible.


I despise Cupid and it felt like Felicity was character assassinated.

 

[jon bones]

It's not as gloomy as it sounds, basically they wanted to build up Grodd's profile over the first few seasons before pulling the trigger on him as a bigger threat. Ra's, the League and Nanda Parbat playing a smaller role in S1 and S2 of Arrow was the build up and inspiration.

Does that mean Team Flash will be visiting Gorilla City every second episode almost immediately even though it's currently a universe away? Probably.

ah, i'm cool with that. i think the flash team does a lot of stuff inspired by arrow (but better.)

if we can get a real S3 where the showrunners can execute on their vision without getting handcuffed by WB, Flash'll go down in history

if the movie crew decides they need Grodd for the 2018 movie or something we are fucked and i'm emotionally prepared for the top as the s3 big bad :/

 

[Joni]

She looks damn good in those jeans.
It is a bit disappointing that Oliver didn't fight Cupid at the wedding.
And damn, he wanted to get caught.

 

[Lashley]

What an awful episode.

Even Felicity in those jeans couldn't save it

 

[Vaenyr]

All in all a bad week for DC. The scenes in court were actually fun, the rest of the episode not so much.
Jay Garrick is in the grave.

 

[Dominican Power]

Episode was so bad that I fell asleep watching it. That was a first. Shipping has ruined Arrow.




And the dark scenes in DD are hard to see what's going.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Awful week? Don't get that comment. Arrow had issues, but I liked it. Esp with court scenes and Cupid.

But regardless of that, Supergirl and The Flash were really good this week.

But opinions I guess.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Yeah, Flash and Supergirl were fine. Nothing terrible.
Supergirl was coming off it's best episode yet, so expectations may have been high.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Katie Cassidy's

Spoiler

hair looks a lot different than that photo posted a while back. I thought her hair was black but recent photos make it look more brunette, like Laurel in the earlier seasons. Not much but might mean more that she won't be in the grave.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Katie Cassidy's

Spoiler

hair looks a lot different than that photo posted a while back. I thought her hair was black but recent photos make it look more brunette, like Laurel in the earlier seasons. Not much but might mean more that she won't be in the grave.

Spoiler

Are they still filming? I know she has been in NYC the past couple days but Amell has been in Cali during the same time period. I'm still betting it's Detective Chief Constable Lance.

 

[Vaenyr]

Awful week? Don't get that comment. Arrow had issues, but I liked it. Esp with court scenes and Cupid.

But regardless of that, Supergirl and The Flash were really good this week.

But opinions I guess.

Supergirl was great, Flash mediocre, Arrow had it's fair share of problems and BvS was almost a disaster. All my personal opinions of course. It's just a little disappointing for me, but for all of you that liked the episodes, it's great that you enjoyed it.
I'm enjoying the seasons of all current series so far (well Felicity can be quite tiring, but oh well), so I know that there will be more things to come that are probably more to my liking, I have no worries on that front.

 

[Sephzilla]

Ugh, this last episode made me despise Felicity even more

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Spoiler

Are they still filming? I know she has been in NYC the past couple days but Amell has been in Cali during the same time period. I'm still betting it's Detective Chief Constable Lance.

Spoiler

I don't recall any 'that's a wrap' tweet, so it's probably still going. My money is still on Lance too, Darhk killing Laurel to get to him sounds lame because of the old villain trick of 'why should I kill you when I kill the ones you love'. Darhk kills Lance, he doesn't have anyone to really testify against him.

 

[Lashley]

Ugh, this last episode made me despise Felicity even more

If they ever have a villain kill her, they'll surpass Slade in popularity.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

So apparently last nights episode was a series low for ratings?

 

[Grizzlyjin]

So apparently last nights episode was a series low for ratings?

I didn't check if it was a series low, but it was down. But so was Flash. I think the break hurt both shows a little.

 

[morningbus]

So apparently last nights episode was a series low for ratings?

Don't read into it too much yet as daylight savings time and a long break generally factor into lower ratings across the board.

This season has generally been tracking behind season 3 in ratings.

 

[Escape Goat]

This show has gone to crap. Team Arrow is hilariously incompetent at taking down bad guys. Ollie cant even take out Cupid without backup. Felicity makes no sense anymore and Ollie is content to let Felicity throw their relationship away without a fight. Clearly they are the finest example of CW relationships.

Captain Lance lost his job by testfying. Thrilling courtroom drama! Equally thrilling was the car chase in the same freight office park weve seen in every outdoor scene on the show. ZzzzzZzzz....

The quick shots of Diggle driving the van in helmet look hilarious.

Im glad I wasnt the only one who laughed.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

I can't get over the fact "Olicity" is a canon term in this universe. Or the fact that Felicity might have saved the day with her speech about love. Also the fact that Cupid can beat up Diggle and Thea with ease and handle her own against Oliver too.

Also yeah, Lance is totally doomed now. He's the reason Darhk got arrested. Darhk killing him means there's no one to testify on the proper trial.

 

[jon bones]

So apparently last nights episode was a series low for ratings?

well deserved

 

[ZeroX03]

The Flash was a series low too. They both came back after awkward breaks, to soon go on break again, with DST and filler episodes.

 

[BrokenFiction]

I nearly fell asleep during this last episode. The show needs a shake up badly. There are so many problems that go just beyond the characters at this point.

 

[ZeroX03]

It's not really a spoiler so I'm just going to say it so people are interested; Green Arrow, Black Canary, Firestorm and The Atom all get a shout out on the Supergirl/Flash crossover. Setting that stage for a full blown crossover next year.

 

[GulAtiCa]

It's not really a spoiler so I'm just going to say it so people are interested; Green Arrow, Black Canary, Firestorm and The Atom all get a shout out on the Supergirl/Flash crossover. Setting that stage for a full blown crossover next year.

Oooh, awesome!

 

[morningbus]

It's not really a spoiler so I'm just going to say it so people are interested; Green Arrow, Black Canary, Firestorm and The Atom all get a shout out on the Supergirl/Flash crossover. Setting that stage for a full blown crossover next year.

Yeah, but it's kind of ruined for me because right after Flash tells her about his friends Supergirl says, "Sounds like you have quite the network," while slowly turning her head towards the camera as if staring directly into my soul.

 

[iosefe]

Diggle had the best scene of the episode:

he's listening in and Cupid asks is Diggle had a plan for C4, and then it cuts to diggle in the van, all frazzled and saying "thats a damn good question". facial acting on point

had me a chuckle

 

[King Gilga]

Glad I watched this straight after the last two episodes or daredevil s2.

It'd good to know that there's always worse, much much worse.

 

[Joni]

I can't get over the fact "Olicity" is a canon term in this universe. Or the fact that Felicity might have saved the day with her speech about love. Also the fact that Cupid can beat up Diggle and Thea with ease and handle her own against Oliver too.

She is a former SWAT agent with a background in gymnastics and ARGUS training.

 

[ZeroX03]

Yooooooo John Barrowman auditioned for Superman in Returns. Had no idea.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Simple answer?

CoSA works on Gotham and Agents of Shield. But they don't work on The Flash and Arrow. Read how much visual effects work goes into a single episode of Gotham.

Longer answer?

The people who work in Gotham's art department have worked on major films like The Avengers, Ant Man, Shutter Island, Catch Me if You Can,

Some of the people who work on the visual effects for the show have worked on movies like Guardians of the Galaxy and Mad Max: Fury Road.

Still find it funny they do all that visual work on a show like Gotham but Marvel's tv series can't drop a single building into the NYC skyline.

 

[Joni]

Yooooooo John Barrowman auditioned for Superman in Returns. Had no idea.

Arrowverse, the place for failed Superman actors. Next up, Nicolas Cage?

 

[Gig]

This week The Flash gave me some 80's "Just Say No To Drugs" nostalgia and next week Arrow will give me some good old fashioned camp.

What a time to be alive.

 

[Plasticine]

Arrowverse, the place for failed Superman actors. Next up, Nicolas Cage?

It's a shame we already had Ra's al Ghul and Vandal Savage cast. Nic would have been transcendent in either role.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Season 2 of DD is what Arrow should have become.

Damn, man. Damn.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Season 2 of DD is what Arrow should have become.

Damn, man. Damn.

Unfocused and poorly paced?

Spoiler

kappa

 

[OdysseusVA]

Unfocused and poorly paced?

Spoiler

kappa

No, Daredevil. Not Gotham.

 

[Escape Goat]

No, Daredevil. Not Gotham.

Punished.

 

[Poodlestrike]

No, Daredevil. Not Gotham.

Okay, see, I'm confused, because I just watched about 13 episodes of something on Netflix, and I'm pretty sure there was a Punisher show and then maybe like half a season of Daredevil stuff in it?

Is that what you're talking about?

Punished.

Dodged.