Gully State
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That thread took turns that I didn't see coming
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That thread took turns that I didn't see coming
Cow Mengde
Banned
I went clubbing in Guangzhou for New years. It's really not that different from regular clubbing.
That said, I had this conversation with my friend.
Friend: I hate it when too many Chinese take over clubs. They always ruin it. They end up switching to music to more Chinese tastes.
Me: I secretly think in my head that all club music sucks, and she was a hypocrite since both of us were Chinese.
Friend: If too many Chinese visit, they play shitty music and K-POP
Me: *shudders* K-Pop.
Can someone sum it up for me? It sounds so ordinary, yet it somehow managed to be 15 pages long.
That said, I had this conversation with my friend.
Friend: I hate it when too many Chinese take over clubs. They always ruin it. They end up switching to music to more Chinese tastes.
Me: I secretly think in my head that all club music sucks, and she was a hypocrite since both of us were Chinese.
Friend: If too many Chinese visit, they play shitty music and K-POP
Me: *shudders* K-Pop.
Can someone sum it up for me? It sounds so ordinary, yet it somehow managed to be 15 pages long.
Asian girls are easy lay. I just skimmed through the thread though.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Edit - Never mind, I thought you were talking about the club scene.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
Cow Mengde
Banned
Actually, I have noticed an inferiority complex with Asian girls. Now is that all Asian girls, of course not. I know at least 2 like that. They'll go for Western guys because they think Asian men are inferior. The girls also try to look more Western, too. I don't know how prevalent this is in China or Hong Kong.
just got confirmation
white sauce and cheese
Was my first guess but I went and found out for you
Chinese women cheat and dgaf
This is second-hand, of course, but Japanese girl I know doesn't like "Japanese guys" because stereotype #1 through #20 apparently applies to "all of them". Despite the fact that, imo, there's probably a larger filter making cliches regarding expats more likely.
I think it's super important to separate culture from ethnicity, though!
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Unimportant question. I'm as Chinese as I am Jamaican (that is to say, 1/8th) but like 0% culturally Asian. Is that not enough to like Avacado or something? Like, I swear the older I get the more I see Avocado in Asian cuisine, and yet I hate it as much as Mayonnaise.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Yup, I get a big list of things they don't like. All of them had dated Asian guys before. Then they just lump them all together. I do tell them you'll find "western" guys that are just as bad. They're like yeah... and then nothing.
I don't care, but I find it really fascinating and funny.
And for the sake of generalizing, far too many Chinese people smoke. It's a nightmare here for me. Almost no safe haven for me.
I've only been in Beijing airport for a few hours, and I don't know if I was experiencing fog or air pollution.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Oh, definitely air pollution. You add in air pollution and everyone and the mom smoking and you're in for a rough time.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Wat, I read like the first 5 pages when it was posted. How did it pivot to talking about Asians!?!?
Zoe
Member
Dude is somewhere in SE Asia and claims he and his girlfriend (in their 40's) have ridiculous libidos.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Has talking about serious relationship issues openly on a forum with complete strangers ever... Paid off? I mean like in a pm with someone you trust yeah but openly in a forum?
It's a sign of not having people to talk and share stuff with ;(
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Nah I get that, I'm not exactly a paragon of social life myself.
I just feel like asking openly what to do about a troubled relationship is like asking "what's this lump?" Everyone is going to tell you it's cancer and you'll end up scaring the shit out of yourself.
...Also I notice GAF has the tendency to casually suggest cutting ties...>_>
... Some of the dedicated relationship threads have been useful, no? The BDSM thread seemed to be a helpful for its participants. GirlGaf, LGBT community threads etc occasionally venture in to relationship chats/advice. Also you're be surprised how many GAF couples/SO reads GAF thus it's not complete strangers.
That said, I personally don't have the courage to do much discussion online. I get the appeal (I spend so much - too much - time on GAF and respect the opinions of many here) but I've never seen creating a specific thread for your specific relationship issue end well :|
People who post on here usually already have an idea of what to do in their head but they want us to give them that final push in a direction. It removes some of your agency and responsibility from the decision since someone convinced you into it so if things go wrong the impact isn't as hard on you.
mmmm I love white sauce but I recently found out that it often comes with cheese so I can't have it anymore
Also, that relationship thread is straight-up embarrassing.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Zoe
Member
Not healthy, ridiculous. Which led to people talking about man-hungry cougars in HK or something like that.
Gully State
Member
In OP's defense it was the other posters that brought up most of the Asian bullshit.. unless I missed something
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
I don't think anyone was blaming the OP, more that the thread in general had those sentiments come out.
Septimus Prime
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To circle back to this, I think for me the appeal of new FF games now is largely just to see the new interpretations of series tropes. I mean, I just happen to usually also quite enjoy the gameplay--as I do with XV--and sometimes the story*, but those aren't even my primary motivation to play these games anymore.
For example, one of my favorite moments in XV, so far, was just seeing this regular, fairly weak enemy from V:
Like, what the hell is that mess of a sprite even supposed to be? I didn't even know until I saw it again in XV, roving around like a spiked armadillo, attacking by rolling into a ball and bumping into you. Moments like that make the series for me.
*Aside: I haven't seen much of the story yet, to be honest, but I suspect that a lot of it is being missed by players just rushing through from objective to objective. I think the lore and world building in this game a trickled to you when you walk around and camp, and the party talks and banters about it. It's kind of like data logs, except in dialogue form.
Gully State
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To circle back to this, I think for me the appeal of new FF games now is largely just to see the new interpretations of series tropes. I mean, I just happen to usually also quite enjoy the gameplay--as I do with XV--and sometimes the story*, but those aren't even my primary motivation to play these games anymore.
For example, one of my favorite moments in XV, so far, was just seeing this regular, fairly weak enemy from V:
Like, what the hell is that mess of a sprite even supposed to be? I didn't even know until I saw it again in XV, roving around like a spiked armadillo, attacking by rolling into a ball and bumping into you. Moments like that make the series for me.
*Aside: I haven't seen much of the story yet, to be honest, but I suspect that a lot of it is being missed by players just rushing through from objective to objective. I think the lore and world building in this game a trickled to you when you walk around and camp, and the party talks and banters about it. It's kind of like data logs, except in dialogue form.
While I can see that being valid, I definitely clicked through all the missing documents, radios, etc.. especially later in the game. I agree with the some of the staunch defenders of the narrative that the overall outline isn't bad but the execution is less than desired. But when you have key plot points being introduced and laid out in loading screens later on...well it gets frustrating...
I have some additional personal criticisms of the game but those are a matter of preference more so than anything else.
I think it's a kind of self selection bias thing going on though. Like, as a white dude in china, I date girls and they say "Chinese guys are (insert stereotype here)" ... and so yea it's easy to start to think Chinese guys are a certain way and that Chinese girls prefer western dudes. But then you take a step back and you see it's a) obviously not even nearly a majority of girls that think that way and b) girls that do think that way seek out western dudes so that is mostly what you'll see when meeting new girls.
When you say you point out western guys do things a certain way to and the girls shrug it off, that's because they prefer western dudes already so it doesn't really matter what you say. I've met plenty of Chinese girls with stereotypes of western guys in china and would never date a laowai. It goes both ways. Hope that all makes sense.
And the air in Yunnan is great. Dudes mostly smoke out of big water pipes too so you don't get much annoying cigarette BS like smoking in elevators. Everyone should come here. PMI like 30-50 on daily basis, thought it was at 87 yesterday
. Scrolled my app over to Beijing and saw it at 500 "beyond index." Glad I'm not out in the East anymore.Gully State
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I think it's a kind of self selection bias thing going on though. Like, as a white dude in china, I date girls and they say "Chinese guys are (insert stereotype here)" ... and so yea it's easy to start to think Chinese guys are a certain way and that Chinese girls prefer western dudes. But then you take a step back and you see it's a) obviously not even nearly a majority of girls that think that way and b) girls that do think that way seek out western dudes so that is mostly what you'll see when meeting new girls.
When you say you point out western guys do things a certain way to and the girls shrug it off, that's because they prefer western dudes already so it doesn't really matter what you say. I've met plenty of Chinese girls with stereotypes of western guys in china and would never date a laowai. It goes both ways. Hope that all makes sense.
And the air in Yunnan is great. Dudes mostly smoke out of big water pipes too so you don't get much annoying cigarette BS like smoking in elevators. Everyone should come here. PMI like 30-50 on daily basis, thought it was at 87 yesterday
Just to piggy back on this...an Asian girl that's only into Asian guys probably doesn't need to advertise it nor would she all of a sudden stand out even if she were to broadcast it. It's another instance of vocal minority I'm guessing.
Buncha experts on asian girls huuh.
Yeah, same.
Then there's all the story / lore / characterization they left out of the game from the movie (except those tacked on cutscenes lol), anime, and cut material from trailers (no, not the Nomura stuff). The game is missing a bestiary too when much of the content is monster hunts. Also at some point
I don't dislike FFXV, but I hope the next game is not.. like this. lol
Yeah, same.
Then there's all the story / lore / characterization they left out of the game from the movie (except those tacked on cutscenes lol), anime, and cut material from trailers (no, not the Nomura stuff). The game is missing a bestiary too when much of the content is monster hunts. Also at some point
a character disappears for a whole chapter and nobody mentions it ever again (cuz DLC).
Yep ✌️
Septimus Prime
Member
Yeah, a bestiary would be really nice. It's also kind of dumb that you have to cast Libra again for every enemy.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
im like septie, i click on everything and take the time to do everything ever and im really, really enjoying ffxv
i love everything about it
except the main story, but ... didn't really expect much on that front so... \o/
but yes, like septie said, parts of it really paid homage to older ff, and i love that feels when i recognize lil things that are a nod to its predecessors. even if it's just the songs for the car :3... and prompto's attempt at singing ff7 level up tune.... :3 :3 :3
granted, im still at ch 3. so i might come to love it less later .___. (i dont look forward to it)
as an actual asian girl, i dont have much to add to the current topic. i think vern has covered it well.
i love everything about it
except the main story, but ... didn't really expect much on that front so... \o/
but yes, like septie said, parts of it really paid homage to older ff, and i love that feels when i recognize lil things that are a nod to its predecessors. even if it's just the songs for the car :3... and prompto's attempt at singing ff7 level up tune.... :3 :3 :3
granted, im still at ch 3. so i might come to love it less later .___. (i dont look forward to it)
as an actual asian girl, i dont have much to add to the current topic. i think vern has covered it well.
Septimus Prime
Member
I'm also at chapter 3 and know jack shit about Asian girls. Hooray!
Cow Mengde
Banned
Oh I know. I am well aware that they stereotype western guys, too. I probably should ask what the stereotype was, because I have no idea what they think about western guys.
What's also funny is that some of them try to look more like western girls, even though those western guys only like them because they're Asian. It's a really strange cycle.
One of the most hilarious compliments I got from my cousin was how white my skin was. As if living in America suddenly changed my skin color or something. We have brutal winters here in NYC, so we're always bundled up most of the time.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
hooray! \o/
Cow Mengde
Banned
Yeah, but are you an Asian girl living in Asia? It's only valid if you live in Asia.
Really though, some of the weirdness is cultural.
Just the other day while crossing the street, 2 European women walked by, and I heard these girls saying: "Wow, they're so beautiful. So tall and thin." Girls there are obsessed with being thin. I know this one girl who actually has a decent body with actual BREASTS (trust me, it's rare) who says she's called fat all her life. Yet to me, body wise, she's the best looking girl I've seen so far.
Septimus Prime
Member
I thought I was all slick cause I could plow through Iron Giants and can barely beat Red Giants, but then last night I foolishly stepped to Yojimbo and Kujata. Nope. The latter literally rolled over me.
It's good to see the old summons still around, though, even if they aren't part of the Six.
Usually the stereotypes are western guys just want to "play." 你们外国人都只有喜欢玩呀
They'll leave after a year or less so they don't really care about girls.
They are English teachers and that they failed back home so girls would be better off with a local guy.
They are poor, why else would they come to china?
They all cheat. Though Chinese girls also tend to say Chinese guys all cheat too. So 🤔 I guess everyone cheats in China.
Probably more but those ones are the most common ones I hear from Chinese girls when saying why they won't date laowai. Can't say they are wrong a lot of the time though lol.
Show them your collection of anime figures.
Or just come to Asia. There are literally billions of Asian girls here.
Quite a bit here in Canada too lol
Haha yea I was in Vancouver again just the other day. Everybody was Asian. Had some awesome ramen. Also first time at Tim Hortons. Good city.
Edit: also got an amazing deal on a new route via Beijing capital airlines. 238$ Vancouver to Kunming via Qingdao. Anyone looking for a trip to China can't really beat that deal.
I'm curious, are there stereotypes of Asian Americans/Canadians/Europeans?
I think cow mengde can probably answer better as an Asian American in China, I'm sure he has experienced things first hand that I have no idea about. But yes there are some, for example in China most people expect an ABC (or equivalent) who is in China to speak the language. And if that person can't speak Chinese then the locals will probably talk shit about him or her, or at the very least kind of look down on him.
On the other hand as a white dude that speaks "ok" Chinese at best, people will praise me non-stop for how fantastic my Chinese is.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
well im half and half. since im first generation so i still go back home frequently. (this is also why im a little backward when it comes to asian representation in hollywood or western mainstream media, cuz i basically consume asian media).
but idk. thanks for trying to dismiss my perspective, i guess :>
and yes, the thin and tall and pale obsession is real in asia. this i can comment on. im a direct
LOL SEPTIE U R ME
I AM U
i ran into the kujata and i was like GRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAWRRRRRRRRR
and then i was "Load Your Most Recent Save Game"
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Chaos2Frozen
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I wish I was an expert at single hot Asian girls like all you sempai.
Ask me about Chinese guys too. Only an expert on women because we are talking about women. 😂 Can't say I know much about dating Chinese men though.