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[Cuburt]

wasn't like 45 minutes cut? the deleted scenes are pretty disappointing.

These Marvel movies in general seem like they hold on to some good scenes that we know for sure were cut and given what they give us as extras, I can't figure out why that is.

The cave scene probably shouldn't have been cut just because that whole sequence is already odd in the final film but otherwise those cuts seem like they make sense.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Tony embarrassed Killian so badly he was going to commit suicide. Instead he had an epiphany and changed everything about himself.

He told Killian he'd meet him on the roof in five minutes, and then didn't show up. There was no-one else up there; it's not like he was majorly embarrassed in front of a crowd or anything. I don't buy that this is enough of an event that Killian would dedicate the next 15 years engineering Tony's death.

The suits are shoddy because they're shoddily made. Tony's staying up all night constantly iterating new ideas instead of focusing on a few and honing them.

Yeah, fair enough. I suppose they do go into that during the early part of the film.

 

[guek]

I don't think Tony has ever gotten over his PTSD from the first Iron Man. That's the whole reason he builds armors in the first place.

I agree that shield should have been there in IM3 but...meh

 

[Linkstrikesback]

He told Killian he'd meet him on the roof in five minutes, and then didn't show up. There was no-one else up there; it's not like he was majorly embarrassed in front of a crowd or anything. I don't buy that this is enough of an event that Killian would dedicate the next 15 years engineering Tony's death.

Wait, you're telling me it's not considered the normal course of action that when you get stood up by someone, you spend years planning that persons demise?

Boy do I look silly now. Better start writing apology cards.

 

[BronsonLee]

He told Killian he'd meet him on the roof in five minutes, and then didn't show up.

Straw that broke the camel's back, really. Years of being treated like dirt despite being a genius probably weighed on Killian. Tony just gave him a personal manifest to hold a grudge on.

Killian's basically a sad little man who modeled his life after Tony's, because he wanted what he had.

 

[razzmahtazz]

He told Killian he'd meet him on the roof in five minutes, and then didn't show up. There was no-one else up there; it's not like he was majorly embarrassed in front of a crowd or anything. I don't buy that this is enough of an event that Killian would dedicate the next 15 years engineering Tony's death..

Killian wasnt engineering Tony's death for 15 years. Tony only gets into Killian's radar when Tony declares war on the Mandarin. Killian preemptively strikes down Iron Man so that he wouldnt interfere. But Maya Hansen has a problem with that action and so seeks out Tony because she believes he is the only one that can solve Extremis' problems.

That moment on the roof wasnt a "I want revenge" moment for Killian, its "a time to change" moment.

 

[Mighty Chin]

Straw that broke the camel's back, really. Years of being treated like dirt despite being a genius probably weighed on Killian. Tony just gave him a personal manifest to hold a grudge on.

Killian's basically a sad little man who modeled his life after Tony's, because he wanted what he had.

That was my exact interpretation. Killian looked like a man making his last ditch attempt and Tony looked right passed him.

 

[BronsonLee]

That was my exact interpretation. Killian looked like a man making his last ditch attempt and Tony looked right passed him.

Pretty much. Tony didn't remember Killian at all, but Killian remembered him for sure. Grudges are hard to bust.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

I don't think Tony has ever gotten over his PTSD from the first Iron Man. That's the whole reason he builds armors in the first place.

I agree that shield should have been there in IM3 but...meh

Yeah, and the Battle of New York must have made his metal state even worse

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Straw that broke the camel's back, really. Years of being treated like dirt despite being a genius probably weighed on Killian. Tony just gave him a personal manifest to hold a grudge on.

Killian's basically a sad little man who modeled his life after Tony's, because he wanted what he had.

Killian wasnt engineering Tony's death for 15 years. Tony only gets into Killian's radar when Tony declares war on the Mandarin. Killian preemptively strikes down Iron Man so that he wouldnt interfere. But Maya Hansen has a problem with that action and so seeks out Tony because she believes he is the only one that can solve Extremis' problems.

That moment on the roof wasnt a "I want revenge" moment for Killian, its "a time to change" moment.

That was my exact interpretation. Killian looked like a man making his last ditch attempt and Tony looked right passed him.

I mean sure, but that's based on assumption. The storytelling is weak and does a very poor job of mapping out Killian's motivations.

 

[guek]

Killian needs to be resurrected as the Machine Organism Designed Only to Kill(ian)

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

• Why didn't he enact his 'house party protocol' when his house was being destroyed? Or why wasn't there a fail-safe for the protocol to enable when the house came under attack? Or when hostile forces entered nearby airspace?

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  You see him developing the remote-controlled armour earlier in the film, he'd barely finished the prototype of if by the time his house is attacked and it takes the rest of the film for Jarvis to apply that tech to the rest of his suits in that vault under the house.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Killian needs to be resurrected as the Machine Organism Designed Only to Kill(ian)

Oh yes!

 

[guek]

You see him developing the remote-controlled armour earlier in the film, he'd barely finished the prototype of if by the time his house is attacked and it takes the rest of the film for Jarvis to apply that tech to the rest of his suits in that vault under the house.

Nah, Jarvis was flying all the armors at the end. You're thinking of the piecemeal armor tech seen in the prototype.

Biggest thing that bugs me about IM3, which I also enjoy, are the paper armors (plot reasons don't make it less underwhelming) and how it never explained wtf happened with Jarvis glitching.

 

[Ronin Ray]

• Tony gets over his PTSD of the alien wormhole way too quickly. Like the alcoholism, if they're not going to do it properly then I'd rather they don't do it at all.
  
• Killian is an awful bad guy; a total cliche of a science geek at the beginning who later wants to exact vengeance because Tony vaguely humiliated him one time.
  
• Why are the Iron Man suits made of balsa wood in this film? He takes a tank shell in the first film, and duels with Thor in The Avengers. Why is the build of his suits significantly worse, dozens of iterations later?!
  
• What are the extremis abilities and why are they so inconsistent across the film?
  
• Why didn't he enact his 'house party protocol' when his house was being destroyed? Or why wasn't there a fail-safe for the protocol to enable when the house came under attack? Or when hostile forces entered nearby airspace?
  
• I know the MCU films are largely standalone outside of the Avengers or similar event movies, but in this a terrorist kidnaps the president and enacts multiple attacks all over the US. Where were Cap or Shield while this was happening?!
  
• The plot is a re-run of The Incredibles, and yet that film is far better, with a far more convincing villain and better action scenes.

To be fair, I don't think it's a bad film and I quite enjoyed parts of it (generally good dialogue, Downey & Cheadle are great together) and I actually quite liked the twist with Trevor Slattery, but considering how great the first film was and how poor IM2 was, I don't think this is a return to form at all.

I have the opposite opinion on most of this.

I don't think Tony is over his PTSD . That is why he

Spoiler

built Utron

and wants to walk away. They have also never said Tony has a problem with alcoholism. He parties a lot and got drunk at that party in Iron Man 2 and that's it.

The iron man suits seemed weaker because extremis was there perfect foil (his kryptonite if you will). Extreme heat that can melt his suites. Tony didn't have time to create a suit to deal with heat of that level.

I thought the extremis powers were consist throughout the movie. You are basically a walking reactor that creates heat at an unprecedented high level and will blow at some point. The more you use it the stronger it is but your closer to exploding. Some people had better control over it then others.

I would think shield and cap were busy hunting down hydra and whose to say they weren't looking for the president and helping at the same time. One thing is for sure, with Stark's ego he would not call any of the avengers for help.

I agree with the house protocol, I am a sucker for Guy Pearce so I liked Killian and I don't get The Incredibles comparison.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Here's the thing about Ultron after multiple viewings. Everyone went in thinking he was going to be your typical destroy all humans AI. He wasn't really that at all though. In the comics, he's an insane program but in the film, he's an insane person. The mind stone straight up creates consciousnesses. Whedon practically beat the audience over the head with the Pinocchio analogy but most people still didn't get it. Ultron doesn't view himself as a killbot, he thinks he's the next step in humanity. Vision is meant to be the next step in human evolution. The last step. "The end of the line."

It's very different from what we've come to expect from AI and from the Ultron character but it's not bad just because it's different. I think it's absolutely fascinating.

Yeah Whedon did a lot to make Ultron more than Skynet with a body (which isn't comics Ultron either) and I do appreciate it. I love his fixation with God and his ability to be menacing and violent one moment and apologetic the next. My biggest problem with him was not enough screen time and maybe his final form should have been a bit more of a power house. I wanted to see some Encephalo-Ray action.

From the first viewing of the film, the editing and pacing were always the major fault, I've read a lot of other criticisms of the movie but aside from a couple of scenes (the Norn cave and the stupid Nexus thing) I think it's a really good movie that I guess just didn't catch fire, which is understandable because they will never replicate the excitement of seeing the team come together for the first time.

 

[Mighty Chin]

I mean sure, but that's based on assumption. The storytelling is weak and does a very poor job of mapping out Killian's motivations.

It's not really an assumption. I'd say it was conveyed quite well through Killians performance.

 

[kirblar]

AoU has a lot of issues- Ultron isn't really one of them, it's structural plot/narrative/pacing stuff for the most part.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Eeeeeh, I think Ultron is definitely one of its issues. Maybe not the character, so much as the lack of screentime/development.

 

[Shaanyboi]

My only issue with Ultron is that we never got to see him really win. He gets Wanda to fuck up Hulk and the rest of the team though he himself doesn't do a lot beyond fight Iron Man, we next see him escape with Widow as a prisoner but having lost the Vision casket, and then it's the finale.

But we needed to see him as a force really decimate. Destroy a resisting army (which happens off-screen), really beat the living shit out of an Avenger (he fights Thor until Vision saves him, but all come out of it okay).

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I guess it really would have been too dark to portray on screen, but that imagery of Ultron standing among of a pile of civilian bodies in the shape of his face really would have cemented him as a major threat and could have been really striking on film.

 

[Shaanyboi]

I guess it really would have been too dark to portray on screen, but that imagery of Ultron standing among of a pile of civilian bodies in the shape of his face really would have cemented him as a major threat and could have been really striking on film.

I wonder if they actively avoided that stuff for fear that it would make Tony look 1000x worse or at fault.

 

[anaron]

one of the worst edited scenes I've notice seeing the film again is after BW is mowing down the ultrons with the truck it then it cuts to her already standing in the church with the group.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

I think I'm going to wait longer until I buy the BD. Around November or something. Don't really feel an urge to revisit the film anytime soon.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Blu ray is out on the 14th >.< screw you worldwide release date.

 

[Extra Sauce]

I guess it really would have been too dark to portray on screen, but that imagery of Ultron standing among of a pile of civilian bodies in the shape of his face really would have cemented him as a major threat and could have been really striking on film.

That sounds about as silly as the hand-shaped zombie crowd that was cut out of World War Z tbh.

 

[Thebeardofknowledge]

Blu ray is out on the 14th >.< screw you worldwide release date.

It's okay Europe gets it a little early

 

[Pai Pai Master]

That sounds about as silly as the hand-shaped zombie crowd that was cut out of World War Z tbh.

It was cool in the book

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Deleted scenes first

 

[GAMEPROFF]

10 Days -,-

 

[shinobi602]

Just watched this over the weekend. Man, good stuff good stuff.

Ultron was awesome. And hilarious lol.

Bring it Thanos.

 

[cripterion]

This movie was awful. I kinda like the first one but it' way too cheesy for me. Action scenes in 2nd Captain America movie were so much better than this.

I dunno what I was expecting but hard to get excited at all about this, especially after seeing Mad Max.

 

[The Technomancer]

Tony gets over his PTSD of the alien wormhole way too quickly. Like the alcoholism, if they're not going to do it properly then I'd rather they don't do it at all.

What? I don't get this complaint. Not only is it throughout Iron Man 3 but its also clearly informing his entire character in Age of Ultron. He may not go into panic attacks anymore but the entire reason he creates Ultron is paranoia about space invaders

 

[Pai Pai Master]

What? I don't get this complaint. Not only is it throughout Iron Man 3 but its also clearly informing his entire character in Age of Ultron. He may not go into panic attacks anymore but the entire reason he creates Ultron is paranoia about space invaders

Yeah. He definitely doesn't just "get over" his PTSD. It informs his decisions in 2 entire movies. Everything Tony does now is to create a world where he and his friends don't have to sacrifice themselves to keep the world safe.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Yeah. He definitely doesn't just "get over" his PTSD. It informs his decisions in 2 entire movies. Everything Tony does now is to create a world where he and his friends don't have to sacrifice themselves to keep the world safe.

Seems like people need this straight in the face with Tony getting panic attacks...

 

[Shaanyboi]

Seems like people need this straight in the face with Tony getting panic attacks...

Goes along with people thinking Iron Man 3 is about him giving up being Iron Man. Some people are extremely surface-level.

 

[Dai101]

Goes along with people thinking Iron Man 3 is about him giving up being Iron Man. Some people are extremely surface-level.

I blame smartphones.

 

[Mighty Chin]

Mad Max comparisons are a joke. Two completely different movies entirely. Mad Max is the definition of a surface level movie. While wildly successful it could have as easily been titled Mad Max: There and Back Again.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Mad Max comparisons are a joke. Two completely different movies entirely. Mad Max is the definition of a surface level movie. While wildly successful it could have as easily been titled Mad Max: There and Back Again.

Doesn't make it a bad movie, but yeah they're nothing alike. Mad Max and AoU were definitely my favs this year.

 

[guek]

Mad Max comparisons are a joke. Two completely different movies entirely. Mad Max is the definition of a surface level movie. While wildly successful it could have as easily been titled Mad Max: There and Back Again.

Mad Max deserves most of the praise it gets but a lot of people don't seem to get how thin it is on narrative. Miller stripped down the movie to a few core principles and polished them until they gleamed. Most movies don't have the benefits Max gets from its setting and basic plot.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Mad Max comparisons are a joke. Two completely different movies entirely. Mad Max is the definition of a surface level movie. While wildly successful it could have as easily been titled Mad Max: There and Back Again.

Sure, but the movie was also designed that way. The movie intentionally tries to establish as much as it can about its world with as little explanation as possible. Not every movie can do that.

 

[Mighty Chin]

I enjoyed Mad Max immensely make no mistake. But it's as thin a movie as I've ever seen. Check your brain at the start and enjoy the ride, don't dig too deep because there is nothing there.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Man, as great as Mad Max was, we definitly reached the point where its absurded how big the praises are. People treat it like aüthe second coming of christ.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Man theres some of the deleted stuff in this, feels like it shoulda been in the movie. Missed opportunity for a directors cut.


I liked Mad Max for sure, but its not that good.

 

[Anton Sugar]

He's probably talking about action, where AoU pales compared to Mad Max.

I don't even really get the "check your brain" commentary. Age of Ultron has a lot more plot but I wouldn't call it any smarter. Might even be dumber.

 

[N7Commander95]

I enjoyed Mad Max immensely make no mistake. But it's as thin a movie as I've ever seen. Check your brain at the start and enjoy the ride, don't dig too deep because there is nothing there.

There is plenty there. More than most modern action movies. While you can argue about the quality of the contents, Mad Max is not a surface level movie in the slightest

 

[Mighty Chin]

Man, as great as Mad Max was, we definitly reached the point where its absurded how big the praises are. People treat it like aüthe second coming of christ.

Honestly the Character of Nux was my Favourite part of the movie. His little moments were fantastic. He had a complete disconnect with his behaviour. I loved how he thought Max was his Blood Brother.

I'm still trying to understand the Timeline in this movie. I guess I just have to accept that the human race devolved that quick.

 

[Alienous]

I'm trying to get through the Blu-Ray and I bowed out after the Hulk fight.

I think watching this movie once is enough.

 

[rexor0717]

I'll be picking up this on blu-ray day one. Been looking forward to watching this again.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

So, dumb question. I've never really bought a digital version of a movie from Google Play or anything like that. If I do, does that have special features like deleted scenes in it? Or is it just the movie and that's it?