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[<+)O Robido O(+>]

Its a plot hole but you I guess you have to turn your brain off and just accept that 1000's of people were ready to go fight Thanos at the drop of a hat even though no one knew he was going to show up with an army.

Outside of the Asgardians and The Wasp I think everyone was mid-battle or very recently battling when the snap occurred. Its not too hard to imagine the wizards around the world monitoring the situation.

 

[cryptoadam]

Outside of the Asgardians and The Wasp I think everyone was mid-battle or very recently battling when the snap occurred. Its not too hard to imagine the wizards around the world monitoring the situation.

There needed to be a scene of someone sending out a call or something just to establish why everyone knows to come fight a giant battle.

I guess we just have to accept that either someone made a call or Wakadians/Wizards were all watching (even though they know Thanos is dead???). Comic book logic I guess.

 

[kunonabi]

Here's what I think:

Loki is alive. Gamora is alive. Black Widow is alive.
When Thanos destroyed all the stones, it also freed all the souls from the soul world. Guardians 3 will be about finding Gamora in a different body, or finding a new body for her soul. Same with Black Widow.
Loki fleeing with the Tesseract completely changed the timeline so he wasn't even in the events of Ragnarok and he was never killed by Thanos.

Loki fleeing with the tesseract in theory shouldn't change the future according to the film's rules. It should just create an additional reality.

 

[<+)O Robido O(+>]

There needed to be a scene of someone sending out a call or something just to establish why everyone knows to come fight a giant battle.

They needed a bunch of additional scenes. Captain Marvel just coming across Tony and Nebula and Pepper being at the headquarters wasn't explained at all. Unless you saw and sat around to the end of Captain Marvel you wouldn't have even known that she was already back on Earth. It was already 3hrs long another 12 or 20 minutes extra wouldn't have killed us.

 

[Joe T.]

There's no way for me to talk about Endgame without sounding like some internet edgelord. I liked Infinity War and I was expecting a halfway decent sequel with some cringe-worthy moments strewn about (par for the course at this point), instead I got a major disappointment that felt like it was dragging on too long at multiple points. There was only one dramatic moment in the whole movie that worked for me and I can't even remember it, just that it came in the first half. The comedy wasn't doing much for me either, maybe because most of it seems so routine and I'm expecting it in almost every scene. The big battle had set itself up to be something truly impressive, but wound up being mostly forgettable, Captain Marvel's overpowered status, that woman power scene and Thanos' ability to easily handle the Avengers without the Infinity Gauntlet standing out for me - Avengers seemed to give him a tougher time in Infinity War when he was wearing the gauntlet, but maybe I'm not remembering it correctly.

MCU entries like Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok were entertaining because I went in knowing what to expect, a superhero movie prioritizing laughs over all else - going into either expecting weighty subject matter or a grounded story would have been ridiculous. The first Iron Man might still be my favorite in the MCU series of movies exactly because it was the most grounded in reality, but Endgame seemed to be all over the place, a jack of all trades type of affair that made it difficult to ever take seriously. Thor with a large belly, Captain America wielding Mjolnir, Thanos having been easily cornered, captured and killed, time travel... just too many "whatever" moments for it to ever gel into a respectable story for me. After three hours of that I simply couldn't be bothered to care as to why no time was set aside to address the fact that half of earth's population just reappeared onto a planet that was different from the one they left. A missed opportunity to cement the Avengers' standing in the world and deliver some jokes in the process.

I was looking forward to an unexpected outcome that defied expectations and kept me interested in the universe. In some ways I got the former without getting the latter. I'm so turned off by the way they handled Endgame that I've lost all confidence in the studio's ability to drive this super hero train any longer. Couple that with my intense dislike for the way Disney has handled Star Wars and I guess my issues all stem from the same source, but that's another story altogether. Here's to hoping I can still rely on James Cameron not to disappoint when it comes to blockbuster sequels.

 

[cryptoadam]

They needed a bunch of additional scenes. Captain Marvel just coming across Tony and Nebula and Pepper being at the headquarters wasn't explained at all. Unless you saw and sat around to the end of Captain Marvel you wouldn't have even known that she was already back on Earth. It was already 3hrs long another 12 or 20 minutes extra wouldn't have killed us.

Good point. I also wondered how did CM know who Tony was or to bring him back to earth? I saw Captain Marvel but maybe I missed a scene in that movie that set it up???

IW seemed like it was really well thought out and each scene had a purpose, Endgame felt like they had some ideas and then shoehorned the entire movie around those ideas plot holes be damned.

Like the 5 year time jump. Makes no sense, screws up a ton of stuff like Parkers friend Ned or his schooling, but Tony NEEDED a child and it can't be a baby so 5 year time jump it is.

 

[Kadayi]

Good point. I also wondered how did CM know who Tony was or to bring him back to earth? I saw Captain Marvel but maybe I missed a scene in that movie that set it up???

IW seemed like it was really well thought out and each scene had a purpose, Endgame felt like they had some ideas and then shoehorned the entire movie around those ideas plot holes be damned.

Like the 5 year time jump. Makes no sense, screws up a ton of stuff like Parkers friend Ned or his schooling, but Tony NEEDED a child and it can't be a baby so 5 year time jump it is.

Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous the more I think about it. I get the idea behind it. Everyone else like Capt & Black Widow are stuck mourning the past, ala The Leftovers, whereas Tony & Pepper elect to make a new future out of the ashes, but it would have made for a much more profound payoff if Tony realised that he had to essentially kill his present in order to rectify things fully at the very end for the greater good versus the illogical BS they went with.

 

[Caffeine]

Scarlet witch going ballistic was pretty cool If it could have gone differently I don't even think they needed captain marvel, she had no emotional attachment to any of this. Scarlet witch has lost vision she has reason to decimate thanos and if written differently she could have continued her little dark phoenixesque assault and continued to go super saiyan god mode on everything.
Personally I liked infinity war more.

 

[HoodWinked]

They needed a bunch of additional scenes. Captain Marvel just coming across Tony and Nebula and Pepper being at the headquarters wasn't explained at all. Unless you saw and sat around to the end of Captain Marvel you wouldn't have even known that she was already back on Earth. It was already 3hrs long another 12 or 20 minutes extra wouldn't have killed us.

My assumption is because IW she got the distress call and how at the end of captain marvel she also is shown to fly at light speed it's not unreasonable that she would be able to find them nearby Titan. I'd assume they would know since thats where half the avengers went to fight thanos.

There needed to be a scene of someone sending out a call or something just to establish why everyone knows to come fight a giant battle.

I guess we just have to accept that either someone made a call or Wakadians/Wizards were all watching (even though they know Thanos is dead???). Comic book logic I guess.

Basically Dr strange. Peter Parker even says strange said while they were in the soul dimension that they need to be ready to fight.

 

[kunonabi]

Thinking on it again and the Loki thing ends up being more confusing. If he did create a new reality that would mean the previous one would be without a stone and thus it would end up destroyed. This means one of three things happens. A new reality is created and that one is screwed even if Cap brings the stone back, it has no major effect on the events of that reality and things somehow continue like normal anyway, or it does change the timeline of that reality counter to what the rest of the movie was talking about.

Of course this also gets me thinking. The Ancient One says her reality can't survive if a stone goes missing. Makes enough sense but Thanos destroyed all six stones in the main reality so shouldn't that have been a pretty cataclysmic event? Shouldn't that reality be on the way to destruction anyway?

Also did Cap have that shield when he went back in time? I remember he had the hammer and the stones. If he didn't, that brings up a whole other batch questions in addition to the ones his jump already has.

 

[manfestival]

There's no way for me to talk about Endgame without sounding like some internet edgelord. I liked Infinity War and I was expecting a halfway decent sequel with some cringe-worthy moments strewn about (par for the course at this point), instead I got a major disappointment that felt like it was dragging on too long at multiple points. There was only one dramatic moment in the whole movie that worked for me and I can't even remember it, just that it came in the first half. The comedy wasn't doing much for me either, maybe because most of it seems so routine and I'm expecting it in almost every scene. The big battle had set itself up to be something truly impressive, but wound up being mostly forgettable, Captain Marvel's overpowered status, that woman power scene and Thanos' ability to easily handle the Avengers without the Infinity Gauntlet standing out for me - Avengers seemed to give him a tougher time in Infinity War when he was wearing the gauntlet, but maybe I'm not remembering it correctly.

MCU entries like Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok were entertaining because I went in knowing what to expect, a superhero movie prioritizing laughs over all else - going into either expecting weighty subject matter or a grounded story would have been ridiculous. The first Iron Man might still be my favorite in the MCU series of movies exactly because it was the most grounded in reality, but Endgame seemed to be all over the place, a jack of all trades type of affair that made it difficult to ever take seriously. Thor with a large belly, Captain America wielding Mjolnir, Thanos having been easily cornered, captured and killed, time travel... just too many "whatever" moments for it to ever gel into a respectable story for me. After three hours of that I simply couldn't be bothered to care as to why no time was set aside to address the fact that half of earth's population just reappeared onto a planet that was different from the one they left. A missed opportunity to cement the Avengers' standing in the world and deliver some jokes in the process.

I was looking forward to an unexpected outcome that defied expectations and kept me interested in the universe. In some ways I got the former without getting the latter. I'm so turned off by the way they handled Endgame that I've lost all confidence in the studio's ability to drive this super hero train any longer. Couple that with my intense dislike for the way Disney has handled Star Wars and I guess my issues all stem from the same source, but that's another story altogether. Here's to hoping I can still rely on James Cameron not to disappoint when it comes to blockbuster sequels.

Yep, you definitely come across like a total edgelord

 

[HoodWinked]

Here's what I think:

Loki is alive. Gamora is alive. Black Widow is alive.
When Thanos destroyed all the stones, it also freed all the souls from the soul world. Guardians 3 will be about finding Gamora in a different body, or finding a new body for her soul. Same with Black Widow.
Loki fleeing with the Tesseract completely changed the timeline so he wasn't even in the events of Ragnarok and he was never killed by Thanos.

Loki is alive at that moment post avengers 1 in all the timelines so it doesn't matter. Loki escapes pre Ragnarok eventually in the current timeline so it makes almost no difference. Black widow is dead in the same way gamora is dead. They aren't in the soul dimension they were a sacrifice to make the stone. Otherwise Gamora should be alive when thanos destroyed the stones. Also captain America returned all the stones to their timelines

 

[bitbydeath]

Good point. I also wondered how did CM know who Tony was or to bring him back to earth? I saw Captain Marvel but maybe I missed a scene in that movie that set it up???

IW seemed like it was really well thought out and each scene had a purpose, Endgame felt like they had some ideas and then shoehorned the entire movie around those ideas plot holes be damned.

Like the 5 year time jump. Makes no sense, screws up a ton of stuff like Parkers friend Ned or his schooling, but Tony NEEDED a child and it can't be a baby so 5 year time jump it is.

They skipped over it but in the Captain Marvel end credits scene they show her go to Earth first as she's called by the beeper thing, they likely told her and she flew off I'm guessing.

 

[HoodWinked]

Thinking on it again and the Loki thing ends up being more confusing. If he did create a new reality that would mean the previous one would be without a stone and thus it would end up destroyed. This means one of three things happens. A new reality is created and that one is screwed even if Cap brings the stone back, it has no major effect on the events of that reality and things somehow continue like normal anyway, or it does change the timeline of that reality counter to what the rest of the movie was talking about.

Of course this also gets me thinking. The Ancient One says her reality can't survive if a stone goes missing. Makes enough sense but Thanos destroyed all six stones in the main reality so shouldn't that have been a pretty cataclysmic event? Shouldn't that reality be on the way to destruction anyway?

Also did Cap have that shield when he went back in time? I remember he had the hammer and the stones. If he didn't, that brings up a whole other batch questions in addition to the ones his jump already has.

Captian would bring the tesseract back to the military base timeline not the post avengers 1 timeline.

As for the ancient one they needed the time stone because of the events of the dr strange movie. The time stone was necessary in defeating dormamou.

Ya I dont remember him taking the shield which is half destroyed. But Steve Roger's is pretty good friends with black panther so it would be easy for him to get it repaired. Though the logistics of time would be a bit convoluted. Since he would have had to goto wakanda before going back in time to get it repaired assuming there was alot of time that passed between defeating thanos and returning the stones. Then captain america would have to leave the shield somewhere for old captian to bring to falcon.

 

[kunonabi]

Loki is alive at that moment post avengers 1 in all the timelines so it doesn't matter. Loki escapes pre Ragnarok eventually in the current timeline so it makes almost no difference. Black widow is dead in the same way gamora is dead. They aren't in the soul dimension they were a sacrifice to make the stone. Otherwise Gamora should be alive when thanos destroyed the stones. Also captain America returned all the stones to their timelines

Problem is Loki is needed for The Dark World to work. I suppose he could get captured again before that but it just seems sort of pointless for him to escape at all then. The director's confimed that Gamora's spirit is in the soul stone when Thanos talks to her post snap. What happened to her after he blew them to hell is the question. Black Widow is in the soul stone from the other timeline/reality.

Yeah, Ancient One's conversation was different than I remembered so removing a stone isn't an instant death to reality like I was thinking.

 

[HoodWinked]

Problem is Loki is needed for The Dark World to work. I suppose he could get captured again before that but it just seems sort of pointless for him to escape at all then. The director's confimed that Gamora's spirit is in the soul stone when Thanos talks to her post snap. What happened to her after he blew them to hell is the question. Black Widow is in the soul stone from the other timeline/reality.

Because of the conversation they had among the avengers mourning Black Widow with Hawkeye and Bruce Banner specifically mentioning what transpired kind of makes it much more permanent. Ya I did see the quote from the Russos but I'm sure they were still figuring out what they wanted to do.

Also a Gamora already existing in the current reality and them killing the other nebula conveniently makes it more unlikely they would bring the old gamora back.

 

[SidViscous]

Thinking on it again and the Loki thing ends up being more confusing. If he did create a new reality that would mean the previous one would be without a stone and thus it would end up destroyed. This means one of three things happens. A new reality is created and that one is screwed even if Cap brings the stone back, it has no major effect on the events of that reality and things somehow continue like normal anyway, or it does change the timeline of that reality counter to what the rest of the movie was talking about.

Of course this also gets me thinking. The Ancient One says her reality can't survive if a stone goes missing. Makes enough sense but Thanos destroyed all six stones in the main reality so shouldn't that have been a pretty cataclysmic event? Shouldn't that reality be on the way to destruction anyway?

Also did Cap have that shield when he went back in time? I remember he had the hammer and the stones. If he didn't, that brings up a whole other batch questions in addition to the ones his jump already has.

My take is that Loki didn't use the stone to jump into another timeline, as it doesn't and never did have that power, he just used it to escape in that timeline. So it still has all the stones, but also just has Loki on the loose for his Disney+ show shenanigans.

As the stones combined keep the universe in balance, he had to return the stones they borrowed so the other timelines wouldn't suffer long-term problems, like without the time-stone, Dormammu would come and win. But for the hammer this doesn't really make sense, I guess they are returning it as the Dark Elves are coming to attack that day, but knowing what the outcome is for the Asguardians, even with the hammer, just returning it to that reality, not helping them to change their outcome seems like a shitty gesture.

The shield sort of implies that the time-travelling Steve rodgers took on the role of Cap even in the other timeline, which begs the question of what happened to their timelines steve rodgers, did they just leave him in the ice or something? maybe they just made two of them. I dunno.

Thankfully this was the last film in the phase, as the moment you introduce the ability to take things from one reality into another you just open a massive can of worms. It doesn't even make sense how Thanos got back in time. They had nebula's wrist thingy and some pym particals, and used those to shrink down an entire army and send it across in one go? yet the avengers were using one per hero despite them going ot the same location and having a limited supply.

But it gets worse, as why the fuck was Thanos even stopping them in the first place? think about it - that Thanos was from another timeline, even if the avengers borrow one of the stones from his (the space stone ) to undo the click in their own timeline, 1.) they are going to return it, and b.) so fucking what, the thanos is dead in that timeline anyway, why send your entire army to another timeline rather than keeping the time travel device from the future and using it in your own timeline.

 

[pramod]

Also now looking back, it doesn't make any sense why Thanos would have left any of the original Avengers alive after IW. When he did the snap he could have easily at the same time willed ALL the Avengers dead. I thought the reason he didn't was because he kept them alive for some reason, maybe to humiliate them again. If he felt there was ANY chance they could undo the snap, or be a pain in the ass in the future, why would he keep any of them alive?

I mean, in the comics, they actually explicitly explained this. Thanos had a psychological weakness in that he felt unworthy to be so powerful, so he subconsciously allowed the heroes a chance to defeat him.

 

[cryptoadam]

Thanks to bitbydeath and HoodWinked for explaining the captain marvel thing.

It was a good movie and a nice send off for the cornerstones of the MCU. Just wasn't as good as IW and a bit of a letdown after such a great movie.

I think I would have to go as my top 10

Avengers1
IronMan1
IW
Civil War
Winter Soldier
GOG
Ragnorok
CA:First Avenger
GOG2
Endgame

 

[ResilientBanana]

I'm fine with female superheroes. In fact, I'd love to see more of them in the future.

The problem with Captain Marvel is that she doesn't bring anything at all to the story. I'm all in for a female superhero in a group of male superheroes, but her presence has to advance the story.

In her case, she clearly didn't. And that just sad considering the potential she had.

I really like Valkyrie, I hope she starts headlining some movies.

 

[FireFly]

But it gets worse, as why the fuck was Thanos even stopping them in the first place? think about it - that Thanos was from another timeline, even if the avengers borrow one of the stones from his (the space stone ) to undo the click in their own timeline, 1.) they are going to return it, and b.) so fucking what, the thanos is dead in that timeline anyway, why send your entire army to another timeline rather than keeping the time travel device from the future and using it in your own timeline.

Well, presumably Thanos identifies with the sacrifice made by his "future" version, and doesn't want it to be in vain. Also, it's an easy way for him to get all the stones, and I guess he could have plans to return back to his original reality and wipe that out, too.

Thinking about it, despite fighting all of the Avengers at once in Endgame (without any stones himself), he still "wins" at the end; only to lose presumably due to some mechanism built into the Stark gauntlet. So, I guess all the Thanos victories Dr Strange saw were like this, and his eventual loss in Endgame is something of a fluke.

Also now looking back, it doesn't make any sense why Thanos would have left any of the original Avengers alive after IW. When he did the snap he could have easily at the same time willed ALL the Avengers dead. I thought the reason he didn't was because he kept them alive for some reason, maybe to humiliate them again. If he felt there was ANY chance they could undo the snap, or be a pain in the ass in the future, why would he keep any of them alive?
I mean, in the comics, they actually explicitly explained this. Thanos had a psychological weakness in that he felt unworthy to be so powerful, so he subconsciously allowed the heroes a chance to defeat him.

The gauntlet doesn't make him omniscient, so he might not have knowledge of the quantum realm. Or at least sufficient knowledge to believe time travel was a feasible option for the Avengers.

Edit: though I guess he did fail to use the time stone to investigate possible futures in which he might lose.

 

[Frank Spencer]

Spoiler

Shame we never saw Stark's reaction when he met Rocket. They had little banter. I was always looking forward to that.

 

[MetalAlien]

There's no way for me to talk about Endgame without sounding like some internet edgelord.

Embrace it... never give them an inch. Better to rule in hell that to serve in heaven.

 

[Frank Spencer]

Embrace it... never give them an inch. Better to rule in hell that to serve in heaven.

Yes be an internet alt-lord. Never leave the basement again.

 

[Majukun]

watched the movie

inferior to the last one by a mile imho, but was definitely a movie for the fans with a lot of fanservice and callbacks to past movies and comic books, so not a movie for me.

wasn't terrible though.

also..did they forgot that at the end of the movie they had a magical wish granting gauntlet?

Stark could have been easily brought back to life...sure i understand that they wanted to write off the character, but they didn't even try to fill that plothole.

 

[MetalAlien]

also..did they forgot that at the end of the movie they had a magical wish granting gauntlet?

Stark could have been easily brought back to life...sure i understand that they wanted to write off the character, but they didn't even try to fill that plothole.

Stop now, you start thinking and it only gets worse.

 

[kunonabi]

I really like Valkyrie, I hope she starts headlining some movies.

Valkrie is probably the only mcu character I hate more than their shitty version of Carol so that was actually the last thing I wanted coming out of this.

 

[MrHeisenbird]

If time works differently in the Quantum Realm (5 years on Earth was 5 hours for Scott Lang/ Ant-Man), then how come Janet van Dyne aged as much as she did in Ant-Man and the Wasp?

 

[Vicetrailia]

The third act was fun, but I thought that the movie was mostly boring and forgettable.

 

[LaughingStock]

I liked it. I prefer infinity war though.

We needed more scarlett witch and less captain marvel.

I hated every scene captain marvel was in. OP boring character.

 

[thequestion]

Thought it was a well crafted 'send-off', for characters we've been following for a decade. Avengers IW is way more re-watchable, though. If a person over analyzes the plot - time travel -the film probably falls apart, but if one can look past that, and just allow the film experience to wash over them, it's really great. I was suprised how emotional it was to me - I was definitely feeling it in parts. Most people probably would say the film was slow, but I thought the pacing was fine as this film is more of a tip of the cap to all that came before, and a farewell to characters we've spent so much time with. Ironman, Cap America, and Thor steal the show, as they should, with Thor cementing himself as one of my all time favourite movie characters. Can't wait for GOG 3!!!

Captain Marvel was horrible and her scenes were cringe. As far as I'm concerned, every scene she appears in, could of been replaced with an already established character. Except maybe the first part where she saves Tony and Nebula in space - but even that could of been reworked. She was completely pointless to be introduced so late in the franchise, and could of easily been brought in after this film.
When Thanos 'one-punched' Capt. Marvel, out of the final battle, I clapped in the theatre.

For a comic book film, I give it a 9/10.

There was was a lot of cheers and applause, throughout the film, in the theatre I was in. Here are the loudest crowd applause/cheer moments:

-Captain Marvel first appearance saving tony
- captain Marvel's new haircut
- GOG return via Magic portal
- scarlet Witch vs Thanos
- wakanda army appears from portal

Loudest of loudest moments from the crowd:

- Cap America getting Thor's Hammer
-Spider-Man returns
-Spider-Man hugging Ironman
- "I am.... Ironman!"

 

[pramod]

I think I was rooting for Thanos when he was fighting Captain Marvel. I probably wasnt the only one.

 

[MrHeisenbird]

I think I was rooting for Thanos when he was fighting Captain Marvel. I probably wasnt the only one.

Thanos punching her with the power stone was one of the best parts of the last hour.

 

[Vicetrailia]

The movie just sucks now that I think about it. I see what they tried to do, but it was a borefest until the final battle, and it had to much shit comedy in it.

Scarlett as a lot of fun though. IW was a far better movie.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Definitely not as good as Infinity War, but not bad at all.

Captain Marvel is just fucking terrible though, Brie Larson has the charisma of a block of wood and zero chemistry with the rest of the cast, garbage Mary Sue character, the movie was saved by her being barely in it.

The feminist scene was like a wet fart too, why are feminist women so full of themselves these days? Where is it coming from? Nobody was bothering women in the present day, modern feminism is a revolution without anything to be revolting against, it just comes off as self centered nonsense.

But rant aside I had a great time, now for some spoiler thoughts.

Spoiler

I always assumed they were gonna kill Tony Stark off when there was never any talk of an Iron Man 4, but it's still shocking that they would really kill off the lynching of the MCU.

It's also a huge bummer, RDJ just nailed the character so perfectly and was always so much fun to watch, it's a shame to think we wont see him again.

 

[Majukun]

Also now looking back, it doesn't make any sense why Thanos would have left any of the original Avengers alive after IW. When he did the snap he could have easily at the same time willed ALL the Avengers dead. I thought the reason he didn't was because he kept them alive for some reason, maybe to humiliate them again. If he felt there was ANY chance they could undo the snap, or be a pain in the ass in the future, why would he keep any of them alive?

I mean, in the comics, they actually explicitly explained this. Thanos had a psychological weakness in that he felt unworthy to be so powerful, so he subconsciously allowed the heroes a chance to defeat him.

Well that is directly addressed in the movie.

since he doesn't know that time travel is a possibility, destroying the gems would be a sufficient insurance policy in his eyes.

he also aknowledges his mistake in thinking that he was SO right that when the deed is done everyone would have agreed with him and accepted the new order,while instead he recognizes that there will be always the people looking at the past and that's why his "new solution" would be to reset the world with new people but still half the population.

 

[sol_bad]

Reading this thread, this forum really makes me feel like I'm in an alternate reality.

Honestly, any of you guys that have a big issue with the 2 minute female team up need to seek help. The last battle was literally 85% men smashing other men, yet such a big hang up about the female team up.

Then we have all the Captain Marvel commentators. No idea if it's the same people or different people but prior to Endgame there was whinging about Carol beating Thanos because she is the strongest. Now after Endgame there is whinging about her barely having any screen time. What will make you insane people happy.

Of course she has no personal connection to the Avengers, she hangs out in space. And she has personal stakes in the final battle because she has seen the devastation across the universe.

People complaining about Gamora kicking Quill in the balls? It's exactly what 2014 Gamora would do, it's in character. She struck her knife to Quills throat when he tried seducing her on GOTG1.

Time travel issues?
I can understand the confusion as it wasnt explained well. It's not really time travel, just traveling to other realities, which is why the past doesn't affect the present.

The movie was amazing, cinematic masterpiece. It made me laugh and cry. People that complain about no action in this film, are they same fucking people that complain about massive action set pieces in film? Some people just aren't and don't want to be happy about certain things

The final battle was earned after 22 films. It's on a whole other level compared to the Wakanda battle. So many feels in that fight, in comparison to say Aquaman and it's military battle, there were no feels there and the spectacle wasn't earned, it wasn't exciting.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Isn't it hilarious that we live in the age of the Mary Sue? What was once a storytelling device seen only in bad internet fan fiction is now featured in huge Hollywood Blockbusters.

 

[bitbydeath]

Honestly, any of you guys that have a big issue with the 2 minute female team up need to seek help. The last battle was literally 85% men smashing other men, yet such a big hang up about the female team up.

People just want everyone to be treated equally. Putting up others on pedestals because they have vaginas is just cringy.

 

[Mihos]

Well, presumably Thanos identifies with the sacrifice made by his "future" version, and doesn't want it to be in vain. Also, it's an easy way for him to get all the stones, and I guess he could have plans to return back to his original reality and wipe that out, too.

Thinking about it, despite fighting all of the Avengers at once in Endgame (without any stones himself), he still "wins" at the end; only to lose presumably due to some mechanism built into the Stark gauntlet. So, I guess all the Thanos victories Dr Strange saw were like this, and his eventual loss in Endgame is something of a fluke.


The gauntlet doesn't make him omniscient, so he might not have knowledge of the quantum realm. Or at least sufficient knowledge to believe time travel was a feasible option for the Avengers.

Edit: though I guess he did fail to use the time stone to investigate possible futures in which he might lose.

To be fair, the ancient one couldn't see past her own death, so maybe thanos couldn't see past thor lopping off his head. Even if he did, he has to like his 1000604 to 1 odds

 

[Duallusion]

Of all the time travel gags, they didn't go for potentially one of the best one: Dark World Thor's reaction when Endgame Fat Thor stole his hammer and rode back to the future with it. He must've been, like

The proceeding alt-timeline comedy version of Dark World was probably an improvement from the one we've got.

 

[Kadayi]

* snip*

I couldn't give a shit about the Girl Power angle tbh. The central idea that they don't use the infinity stones to undo the past, but rather use them to bring the vanished back to a reality 5 years later because of Tony having a daughter is one of the most asinine plot holes ever. In doing so they effectively robbed everyone who vanished of 5 years of engagement with those who stayed. Plus, a lot of people would probably have died as a consequence of those sudden disappearances. Airline pilots, car drivers, train drivers, etc etc (The comic series Y The last man gets into this where inexplicably all men die (bar one) all at once).

The film only works as a noble sacrifice because things go wrong and the Thanos from another timeline essentially breaks through at the end and intends to wipe out earth, and the Avengers have to stop him, but without that how exactly do they explain to all of those who they brought back who may have lost parents, lovers and children during that 5 year period, that they could have done things differently, but they elected not to because *reasons*.

A smarter move would have been to reduce the time period to say 6 months - 1 year, and forgo the 5-year-old, for a newborn instead. That way at least it would seem like a less egregious act of hubris on the Avengers part.

 

[DR2K]

Some of y'all sure hate women. Those 5 mins they took command of a fight might have been the worst your 4 inche cocks have ever gone thru.

Movie sucked. Felt like sausage fest all the way thru. Was just a boring 3 hour eulogy up until the end.

 

[Bwesh]

Hated the headbutt to Danvers where she didn't even flinch and the forced 1 sec slow-mo of her in the air about to punch Thanos with full gauntlet.

Full powered Thor took the headbutt and was knocked out lol.

 

[Frank Spencer]

Some of y'all sure hate women. Those 5 mins they took command of a fight might have been the worst your 4 inche cocks have ever gone thru.

Movie sucked. Felt like sausage fest all the way thru. Was just a boring 3 hour eulogy up until the end.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I just watched the RLM video on Endgame and I didn't realize that people are really actually outraged about Fat Thor

 

[Saruhashi]

Some of y'all sure hate women. Those 5 mins they took command of a fight might have been the worst your 4 inche cocks have ever gone thru.

Movie sucked. Felt like sausage fest all the way thru.

Totally accurate.

When I saw the women on the screen I was so mad. What the hell are these broads doing in a superhero movie? I almost choked on my popcorn.

Some guy in the back row shouted "get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich" and then everyone in the cinema applauded and we started chanting "hey hey, ho ho, these dickless heroes have to go".

It's like, as a man, there's just no place for me in this world any more. Why do these females even get 5 mins of screen time? They should get zero minutes! Also they need to smile more!

I went home and was so mad I couldn't even have a wank. Just thinking about those powerful and independent women up there on the screen while I'm down here in mommy's basement trying to stroke some life into my 4 inches of inadequacy.

I was about to cry myself to sleep but then I remembered that, even if I really did hate women that much, at least I'm not some saddo online obsessing about the dick sizes and staying power of strawmen.

 

[Saruhashi]

I just watched the RLM video on Endgame and I didn't realize that people are really actually outraged about Fat Thor

Well, if people out there genuinely and sincerely believe in fatphobia and fat acceptance the I dont see how the couldnt be outraged by Fat Thor.

I thought it was a excellent handling of Thor as many people can probably sympathise with "letting yourself go" being an aspect of depression and could see how Thor had not coped well with everything that has happened to him. Yet he still remained likeable and amusing to us as an audience while also we could feel kind of sympathetic towards him.

Not sure the "fat acceptance" crowd would see it the same way. To them it surely must look like fat shaming.

 

[Kadayi]

Post links dude, it's allowed

 

[MetalAlien]

Reading this thread, this forum really makes me feel like I'm in an alternate reality.

Honestly, any of you guys that have a big issue with the 2 minute female team up need to seek help. The last battle was literally 85% men smashing other men, yet such a big hang up about the female team up.

Then we have all the Captain Marvel commentators. No idea if it's the same people or different people but prior to Endgame there was whinging about Carol beating Thanos because she is the strongest. Now after Endgame there is whinging about her barely having any screen time. What will make you insane people happy.

Of course she has no personal connection to the Avengers, she hangs out in space. And she has personal stakes in the final battle because she has seen the devastation across the universe.

People complaining about Gamora kicking Quill in the balls? It's exactly what 2014 Gamora would do, it's in character. She struck her knife to Quills throat when he tried seducing her on GOTG1.

Time travel issues?
I can understand the confusion as it wasnt explained well. It's not really time travel, just traveling to other realities, which is why the past doesn't affect the present.

The movie was amazing, cinematic masterpiece. It made me laugh and cry. People that complain about no action in this film, are they same fucking people that complain about massive action set pieces in film? Some people just aren't and don't want to be happy about certain things

The final battle was earned after 22 films. It's on a whole other level compared to the Wakanda battle. So many feels in that fight, in comparison to say Aquaman and it's military battle, there were no feels there and the spectacle wasn't earned, it wasn't exciting.

Yeah well you know that's just like ahhh, your opinion man.